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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:24 am

Zenya wrote:I'm confused, Madrigal was couped? By who? And how? O_O

Someone with founder access outside of the people I knew took the account. I am unsure who did it still, kinda bugs me :\
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The Lycan Empire
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Postby The Lycan Empire » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:49 am

This is a very thought out recruitment page!

Very good.
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:03 am

Zenya wrote:I'm confused, Madrigal was couped? By who? And how? O_O

By myself and an unnamed partner - Currently am unsure if they will ever come forward and announce who they are but in any case they have the interests of Madrigal at heart; Something I can't exactly say i have always had. However since discussion with the partner I have seen potential in creating a democratic and roleplay focused region for the people there - and it'd run itself. The partner would stay purely to run the WFE and the like but other than that - nothing unless voted in. I intend on leaving as soon as the region is on it's own two feet.

Now I like to think I'm a fairly honest person - more so on things I do not need to lie about; Leningrad had no involvement. None at all. Once it had happened and hours had passed I recieved messaged from the man asking how we did it and who the other person was. All that stuff. He knows who the partner is...but other than that no one does. Leningrad supports our control over the region...and the removal of Shad:

"Tbh you're a much better GPer than any of them."

I saw how Shadoke dishonored me on the forums

"Nice job I didn't even expect it was him. I'll try and call when I get a decent WiFi connection but yeah you've done well congratulations to you both"

"Hey so now that the forum crasher is out of power in Madrigal, do you think you can try to avoid the destruction of the historic TWP embassy and try to get the Osiris embassy back?"


These words coming from the man who brought Shadoke into Gameplay. These words coming from the man who taught him about NS. These words coming from his mentor and father. The most informed person around Shadoke has decided that supporting him is a dead cause - I fail to understand how anyone else can even gather together some halfcocked reasoning to what he can contribute in comparison to the damage he causes.

Now on the matter of how - Password and logged into the account. Shad wasn't very smart with who he gave it to. :lol2:

About the 100 mark - I was reading through your RMB where some fellow announced fairly publicly he used a fair quantity of puppets to get it to 100. May want to have that not be announced if you want to discuss legitimate growth. <3
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Zenya
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Postby Zenya » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:18 am

Why did you coup Madrigal?
I'm confused as to how this even happened, doesn't Shadoke have founder?
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:22 am

Zenya wrote:Why did you coup Madrigal?
I'm confused as to how this even happened, doesn't Shadoke have founder?

Undemocratic practices, inability to lead, going against what madrigal used to stand for, disrespecting lenny, a mutual distaste for shad, a desire to help natives (since im a filthy fenda... :P ), to fuck up their groups name....the list goes on. Ultimatly my intentions where spiteful and the partners to benefit the region. Since the coup i've kinda thought that helping is better and that's where we are headed.

Password to admin. Log in. Change the password and email. Done.

Shad does not have founder

Now remember from the other day - Difference between Coup / Crash / Grief :P
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Postby Trick Shot » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:26 am

No theadjacking please
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Postby Rifty » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:07 am

Trick Shot wrote:No theadjacking please

> Article brings forward the Madrigal incident

> Article fails to explain things down to lack of information

> I explain things that weren't filled in

> Threadjack


Uh...I think you're a little off hunbun <3
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Postby Marelius » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:25 am

Let's face it, Rifty. Trying to hog the efforts of someone who actually managed to coup the region instead of sending an transparent puppet is not a very nice thing to do. :p
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Postby Rifty » Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:27 pm

Marelius wrote:Let's face it, Rifty. Trying to hog the efforts of someone who actually managed to coup the region instead of sending an transparent puppet is not a very nice thing to do. :p

Their exact words where this..."Do and say what you want as long as my name isn't mentioned."

No one really knows what happened. No one really knows who did it.Hell it could have been me - I could have had the password from months ago. Not like it would have been the first deal I struck with leningrad.

If the person comes forward and speaks to you than they'll gladly share how I wasn't far off around doing it myself. They just had a quicker means and i'm an impatient man.

Again though - It wasn't me and Leningrad had no involvement.
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Postby Marelius » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:55 am

That's the point, though. You were far from doing it yourself. But like always you just have to steal the credit in hopes of some attention, and perhaps approval.
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Postby Rifty » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:25 am

Marelius wrote:That's the point, though. You were far from doing it yourself. But like always you just have to steal the credit in hopes of some attention, and perhaps approval.

It had never been about stealing anyone's credit

Back in GDU I made clear it was Festavo. We had discussions on the matter and the man made very clear that he wanted the credit for it. I said to him he deserves it but am unsure if people will view it as his plan. As much as we don't get along he'll back that.

AoI's military events where never staged by myself. I never claimed as such. Always made sure to say that it was Noble's.

With this I have repeated and repeated that I was not the infiltrator but rather I found out moments before and tagged along. I have never claimed to have the founder myself or for the infiltration to have been conducted and finalised by myself. All I have done is spoken for the person.

This isn't a matter of me taking the credit or anything. It has genuinely been I have been surrounded by a couple of GP events that aren't always mine but people are coming to the conclusion that they're nine because I'm a very vocal person and have been in charge if these people for most of the time.

There have been like a incident were months after it I had claimed I did it without the help of EWS. It was a genuine mistake and nothing more than that.

I'd rather when you make such pigheaded comments that you actually back it with genuine events rather than claiming I've stolen credit...when I have yet to have said this was my event. I've just sat here and kept shaking it in front of your faces pissing myself laughing.
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Larrylykinsland
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Postby Larrylykinsland » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:34 am

There is a lot of drama here.

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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:54 am

Where Roric goes, drama follows like a lost puppy.

Without the shitstiring, we could all have fun.
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:12 am

Shadoke wrote:Where Roric goes, drama follows like a lost puppy.

Without the shitstiring, we could all have fun.


NS is a political simulation game, drama and not having fun are both parts of real politics.
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Iron Scepter
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Postby Iron Scepter » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:34 am

I've been realizing that all the posturing, in-fighting, and mudslinging that occurs here is an unsettlingly accurate emulation of RL.

To say nothing of the R/D game of course.

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:40 am

Rifty wrote:
There have been like a incident were months after it I had claimed I did it without the help of EWS. It was a genuine mistake and nothing more than that.


I see my name, but does anyone have any idea what is actually being said here?
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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:50 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Rifty wrote:
There have been like a incident were months after it I had claimed I did it without the help of EWS. It was a genuine mistake and nothing more than that.


I see my name, but does anyone have any idea what is actually being said here?

I have no idea what the context is in this case.
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Blackbird
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Postby Blackbird » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:12 am

I got a recruitment telegram from you guys proposing that my region merge with you.

I think you know not what you offer.

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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:39 am

Or how fast your region would crumble :P
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:59 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:Or how fast your region would crumble :P

Had them preaching that they stole my people...Yet I found a region and have those who were activly there disputing me flocking to this new region~ x'D

I have Chloe announce not to fear me cause I no longer have an army - Then us people in #Jump had fun taking SPACE.

In their little collective of three regions that was their triumphant; We have Ceral, Another is a group of incompitent raiders who I have personally dealt with and another who...oh wait...they're gone...

They have one of their founders need to step well back from the region to continue as War Scribe in Osiris; I partially think it's got to do with the fact that one of their Citizens in PNG from Osiris so that distancing said self from the region is a good idea...

In any case...Best of luck to you guys <3

EDIT: 4am me can't type well
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Postby Trick Shot » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:06 pm

Rifty wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Or how fast your region would crumble :P

Had them preaching that they stole my people...Yet I found a region and have those who were activly there disputing me flocking to this new region~ x'D

I have Chloe announce not to fear me cause I no longer have an army - Then us people in #Jump had fun taking SPACE.

In their little collective of three regions that was their triumphant; We have Ceral, Another is a group of incompitent raiders who I have personally dealt with and another who...oh wait...they're gone...

They have one of their founders need to step well back from the region to continue as War Scribe in Osiris; I partially think it's got to do with the fact that one of their Citizens in PNG from Osiris so that distancing said self from the region is a good idea...

In any case...Best of luck to you guys <3

EDIT: 4am me can't type well

For God's sake its Ceirien and I still retain the title Elder of the Realm...I am still involved, but to a lesser extent to focus on my Scribe obligations.
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Rifty
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Postby Rifty » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:23 pm

Trick Shot wrote:For God's sake its Ceirien and I still retain the title Elder of the Realm...I am still involved, but to a lesser extent to focus on my Scribe obligations.

It's Cereal...Like fruit loops or coco pops...

Rather then space ships it should have been big boxes of Lucky Charms or something.

And I am well aware you still have the title - but the lesser involvement certainly can't be blamed on the crasher your region harbors. Especially down to their PNG status and how we've dealt with Ainur in regards to a Crashing which happen six (?) years ago.
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Ambroscus Koth
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:39 pm

Rifty wrote:
Trick Shot wrote:For God's sake its Ceirien and I still retain the title Elder of the Realm...I am still involved, but to a lesser extent to focus on my Scribe obligations.

It's Cereal...Like fruit loops or coco pops...

Rather then space ships it should have been big boxes of Lucky Charms or something.

And I am well aware you still have the title - but the lesser involvement certainly can't be blamed on the crasher your region harbors. Especially down to their PNG status and how we've dealt with Ainur in regards to a Crashing which happen six (?) years ago.


Why do you feel like you have to be so condescending to everyone? You know what the region is called, you're not doing anything other than making yourself look like a child. You don't even have a point anymore, you're just making fun of Ceirien for the sake of doing so.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:41 pm

Rifty wrote:
Trick Shot wrote:For God's sake its Ceirien and I still retain the title Elder of the Realm...I am still involved, but to a lesser extent to focus on my Scribe obligations.

It's Cereal...Like fruit loops or coco pops...

Rather then space ships it should have been big boxes of Lucky Charms or something.

And I am well aware you still have the title - but the lesser involvement certainly can't be blamed on the crasher your region harbors. Especially down to their PNG status and how we've dealt with Ainur in regards to a Crashing which happen six (?) years ago.


Does Shad even still play the Game? I thought you scared him away for good.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:43 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Rifty wrote:It's Cereal...Like fruit loops or coco pops...

Rather then space ships it should have been big boxes of Lucky Charms or something.

And I am well aware you still have the title - but the lesser involvement certainly can't be blamed on the crasher your region harbors. Especially down to their PNG status and how we've dealt with Ainur in regards to a Crashing which happen six (?) years ago.


Does Shad even still play the Game? I thought you scared him away for good.


He does. If he'd gotten scared off of NS by RIFTY of all people, I'd feel bad for him :rofl:
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