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Postby Tim Stark » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:40 pm

Great update :)

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Cormac Stark
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:11 pm

Ridersyl wrote:With Cormac so heavily involved in the region now, this won't be the last time The Internationale participates in a liberation, nor will it be the last time The Internationale has to deal with foreign affairs drama. ;)

Yes, because a socialist region would never have liberated another socialist region from REATO if I hadn't been there to influence them to do it. Nevermind that it was Misley who brought the need for Communist China to be liberated to my attention.

KaelThas Quilor wrote:On an unrelated note, letting Cormac influence your foreign policy at all isn't a good idea. A number of regions have been there, done that. :p

My "influence" since my identity was discovered and I dropped any attempt at duality has been limited to voting on proposals others have made. I dropped out of the WA Delegate election to keep people like you from attacking The Internationale because I was Delegate and I resigned from The Red Fleet for the same reason.

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Misley wrote:I don't think that Cormac is "heavily involved" in the region. While he did participate in the liberation, it wasn't organized by him. Furthermore, the proposal he made had to have unanimous consensus from the rest of the region, which it did. He has no more influence over our foreign policy than our newest member.

As for the compliments over the charter school article - I'd love to take credit, but that's not my article. It was written by Cassie Regan, a New York City schoolteacher and member of the Party for Socialism and Liberation, and was originally published in the PSL's paper Liberation News. I agree that it's a great article, though.

That's too much Influence for Cormac. :p

Ah, so your suggestion is that I should be banned from every region in NationStates and not allowed to participate anywhere?

I'll tell you what, Cerian, I'll just leave The Internationale so that you and all the other people who follow me around NationStates harassing me, such as forum destroyer Syl, bringing me up when I have nothing to do with the topic at hand just because I happen to be present in the region, will shift your attention somewhere other than The Internationale. Might I suggest The Rejected Realms, Spiritus, or Taijitu? I'm sure any of the three can handle your petty bullying.
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Comrade Anders Blakewood
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Postby Comrade Anders Blakewood » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:19 pm

I've an honest question, how does TI keep from having voter and election fraud? It seems anyone could create multiple nations and vote in polls or TG their vote to the appropriate person.

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KaelThas Quilor
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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:48 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:With Cormac so heavily involved in the region now, this won't be the last time The Internationale participates in a liberation, nor will it be the last time The Internationale has to deal with foreign affairs drama. ;)

Yes, because a socialist region would never have liberated another socialist region from REATO if I hadn't been there to influence them to do it. Nevermind that it was Misley who brought the need for Communist China to be liberated to my attention.

KaelThas Quilor wrote:On an unrelated note, letting Cormac influence your foreign policy at all isn't a good idea. A number of regions have been there, done that. :p

My "influence" since my identity was discovered and I dropped any attempt at duality has been limited to voting on proposals others have made. I dropped out of the WA Delegate election to keep people like you from attacking The Internationale because I was Delegate and I resigned from The Red Fleet for the same reason.

KaelThas Quilor wrote:That's too much Influence for Cormac. :p

Ah, so your suggestion is that I should be banned from every region in NationStates and not allowed to participate anywhere?

I'll tell you what, Cerian, I'll just leave The Internationale so that you and all the other people who follow me around NationStates harassing me, such as forum destroyer Syl, bringing me up when I have nothing to do with the topic at hand just because I happen to be present in the region, will shift your attention somewhere other than The Internationale. Might I suggest The Rejected Realms, Spiritus, or Taijitu? I'm sure any of the three can handle your petty bullying.

I didn't bully TI. did you even notice how I said I was being humorous? Oh, wait, you lost your sense of humor a few side-changes ago. :p
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Cormac Stark
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:49 pm

KaelThas Quilor wrote:I didn't bully TI. did you even notice how I said I was being humorous? Oh, wait, you lost your sense of humor a few side-changes ago. :p

Masking your bullying behind "humor" is a common tactic in your sphere. Rachel does it all the time. I don't think anyone found you particularly funny, I know I sure didn't.

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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:54 pm

That you didn't find it funny isn't the point.

But if you call saying that giving Cormac any influence is bad 'bullying TI', then you really haven't experienced actual bullying in your real life, rendering your opinion moot.
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Misley
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Postby Misley » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:55 pm

I don't think it's so much an issue of you, individually, but rather a pattern of people taking cheap shots against Cormac and The Internationale ever since he joined our region as TRC.
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KaelThas Quilor
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Postby KaelThas Quilor » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:00 pm

Misley wrote:I don't think it's so much an issue of you, individually, but rather a pattern of people taking cheap shots against Cormac and The Internationale ever since he joined our region as TRC.

I've been taking cheap shots against Cormac ever since he took up switching sides every other week.

I've also been taking cheap shots (with less frequency) against regions like TI (albeit not TI specifically) because I find the idea of using RL ideologies as your basis for NS military activity somewhere between strange and ridiculous. If that's what you do, its fine, but doesn't mean I can't crack jokes about it. If you want to go and crack jokes about the way I play NS, I'd have no problems with that.

Calling 'cheap shots' bullying, however, is laughably inaccurate.
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Cormac Stark wrote:my opinion of me, as usual, is the only one that matters. :p
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:13 pm

Well done in Communist China. I await the siege on Atheist Empire while we're still bringing in reinforcements ;)
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The color or what?..

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Misley
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Postby Misley » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:17 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Well done in Communist China. I await the siege on Atheist Empire while we're still bringing in reinforcements ;)

A region with fascist embassies? The MT Army and Antifa embassies should've been withdrawn a long time ago, if you ask me. Don't hold your breath and wait for us to organize a liberation with Antifa troops.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:25 pm

KaelThas Quilor wrote:I've also been taking cheap shots (with less frequency) against regions like TI (albeit not TI specifically) because I find the idea of using RL ideologies as your basis for NS military activity somewhere between strange and ridiculous. If that's what you do, its fine, but doesn't mean I can't crack jokes about it. If you want to go and crack jokes about the way I play NS, I'd have no problems with that.

You invade other regions just for sport in a game that is supposed to be a political simulation, and then you criticize others for basing their activity on actual political ideologies? Only because you have lost sight of the purpose of this game. Arbitrary invasion of regions and their communities and fake ideologies to justify it aren't the purpose; politics are the purpose.

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Well done in Communist China. I await the siege on Atheist Empire while we're still bringing in reinforcements ;)

If you actually want a liberation, try not piling it sky high, otherwise stop pretending you want to see defenders come anywhere near the region and aren't just there to torment its natives for your enjoyment.

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:06 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I await the siege on Atheist Empire while we're still bringing in reinforcements ;)


Holy shit! 94 endos? That is pretty impressive. I await the opportunity to vote against a liberation.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:15 pm

The Red and Black wrote:TI blocks talks with The Communist Bloc

You could say they're a real...talk bloc.
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Postby Misley » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:16 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
The Red and Black wrote:TI blocks talks with The Communist Bloc

You could say they're a real...talk bloc.

8)
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Comrade Anders Blakewood
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Postby Comrade Anders Blakewood » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:04 pm

Anyone seeing my question? Anyone?

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:36 pm

I saw it, Anders :P Good question, really. What stops me from making a puppet, and voting on the RMB after faking it's activity for a month or two? If you don't require them to be WA nations, how do you prevent puppetry?

And Chester, still climbing ;)
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Zenya » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:38 pm

Someone did vote against the proposed condemnations of TCB (which required 100% consensus), however Misley claimed they were me and banned them right before closing the vote xD
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Postby Solorni » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:51 pm

Zenya wrote:Someone did vote against the proposed condemnations of TCB (which required 100% consensus), however Misley claimed they were me and banned them right before closing the vote xD
#Democracy

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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:48 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:I'll tell you what, Cerian, I'll just leave The Internationale so that you and all the other people who follow me around NationStates harassing me, such as forum destroyer Syl, bringing me up when I have nothing to do with the topic at hand just because I happen to be present in the region, will shift your attention somewhere other than The Internationale. Might I suggest The Rejected Realms, Spiritus, or Taijitu? I'm sure any of the three can handle your petty bullying.


Because I was so busy harassing you in Osiris while we were both involved there, right? :roll: I only talk shit when you're on the opposite side of where I'm standing; The same seems to be true for you. If I, "forum destroyer Syl" am guilty of bullying by doing that, then so are you, "chronic backstabber Cormac." Wheeeeeeee! Isn't this merry-go-round of pointless name-calling fun? (Answer: Nope.)
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Postby Misley » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:50 pm

As fun as the topic of Cormac is, it has nothing to do with the Red & Black.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:51 pm

Yeah guys seriously, its not like the very headline article was written about a policy that Cormac proposed and got passed or something, cmon.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:54 pm

Misley wrote:As fun as the topic of Cormac is, it has nothing to do with the Red & Black.


:blink: Misley, I don't like the subject this thread is on either, honestly, but it's not off-topic at all.

He directly addressed me in his comment, referencing the region the Red & Black news service belongs to.
My original comment he is responding to had to do with the region the Red & Black news service belongs to.

That's like Unibot saying a conversation including The Rejected Realms has nothing to do with The Rejected Times.
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Chester Pearson
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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:And Chester, still climbing ;)


Eek! My region has gone rogue and has moved forces in to HELP you guys! What has the world come to?
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Postby The Other Otter » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:38 pm

Chester Pearson wrote:Eek! My region has gone rogue and has moved forces in to HELP you guys! What has the world come to?

-chuckles-

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:44 pm

The Other Otter wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:Eek! My region has gone rogue and has moved forces in to HELP you guys! What has the world come to?

-chuckles-


Are you going to hide behind a puppet, or make yourself known?
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