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Postby Defender Ambassadors » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:12 pm

Hi, I heard that it's wise for small regions to form alliances and sign treaties with larger, defender regions, should there come a time where the security of the region may be threatened by raiders. Any particular such defender organisations to recommend?

Also, I'd like to ask another question - why does raider unity exist, but not defender unity? That has to change!
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Postby Aurum Rider » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:32 pm

Rather than relying on defenders, it is best to take your own region's security into your own hands. When possible, have a non-executable delegate so that raiders cannot deface your region, and ban the people in it, otherwise, have a delegate with a large amount of endorsements.

Raider unity exists because Defenders can draw on a lot more WA support from any number of regions that Raiders can, leading to raiders having to work together in order to entrench their occupations out of the Defender's reach.

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Postby Chester Pearson » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:03 am

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Aurum Rider wrote:Raider unity exists because Defenders can draw on a lot more WA support from any number of regions that Raiders can


Since when?
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Postby Rifty » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:12 am

Chester Pearson wrote:United Regions Alliance

Aurum Rider wrote:Raider unity exists because Defenders can draw on a lot more WA support from any number of regions that Raiders can


Since when?

Since always - Defenders work to a common goal of protecting the weak with no other intentions. Raiders on the other hand share the common "World domination" idea however there are so many other intentions; Some wanting specific region or not agreeing on raid a particular region. Now you also need to take into account that 99.95% of natives support defenders over raiders; Meaning they're more inclined to help out with their own regions reclaiming. You also have to remember that when claiming a region with a delegate; They have preexisting endorsements from natives.

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Postby Kranstentistan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:15 am

Chester Pearson wrote:United Regions Alliance

Aurum Rider wrote:Raider unity exists because Defenders can draw on a lot more WA support from any number of regions that Raiders can


Since when?

Coming from a raider region with poor relations with many other raider regions, I'd say never.

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Postby Rifty » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:26 am

Kranstentistan wrote:
Chester Pearson wrote:United Regions Alliance



Since when?

Coming from a raider region with poor relations with many other raider regions, I'd say never.

There is a big difference between Raiders and Imperialists mate... :\

Being a raider is useful as it means full support; (as an imperialist) however running as imperialist part of Raider unity provides a little more room to breath. Rather than defend a particular region - I can strongarm them into being a protectorate; Gaining us power while still having them not destroyed.

That's coming from the leader of a region with decent foreign relations...but a poor leader at dealing with disputes :rofl:
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Postby Goddess Relief Office » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:46 am

Rifty wrote:Since always - Defenders work to a common goal of protecting the weak with no other intentions. Raiders on the other hand share the common "World domination" idea however there are so many other intentions; Some wanting specific region or not agreeing on raid a particular region. Now you also need to take into account that 99.95% of natives support defenders over raiders; Meaning they're more inclined to help out with their own regions reclaiming. You also have to remember that when claiming a region with a delegate; They have preexisting endorsements from natives.

Not all defenders are the same. Some are more political than others.

Rifty wrote:If you need defender protection - I offer; Look at my signature...Says im a defender!

Ehhh really....since when? :lol:
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Postby Rifty » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:51 am

Goddess Relief Office wrote:
Rifty wrote:Since always - Defenders work to a common goal of protecting the weak with no other intentions. Raiders on the other hand share the common "World domination" idea however there are so many other intentions; Some wanting specific region or not agreeing on raid a particular region. Now you also need to take into account that 99.95% of natives support defenders over raiders; Meaning they're more inclined to help out with their own regions reclaiming. You also have to remember that when claiming a region with a delegate; They have preexisting endorsements from natives.

Not all defenders are the same. Some are more political than others.

Rifty wrote:If you need defender protection - I offer; Look at my signature...Says im a defender!

Ehhh really....since when? :lol:

However for the most part defenders are on a similar agenda of assisting natives

Since...Since i changed my signature to say so
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:21 am

Aurum Rider wrote:Rather than relying on defenders, it is best to take your own region's security into your own hands. When possible, have a non-executable delegate so that raiders cannot deface your region, and ban the people in it, otherwise, have a delegate with a large amount of endorsements.

Raider unity exists because Defenders can draw on a lot more WA support from any number of regions that Raiders can, leading to raiders having to work together in order to entrench their occupations out of the Defender's reach.


I'd have to say that this is the best answer to the question asked. If you have the power to make your own region safer, that clearly is the best option.If you're in a founderless region that is vulnerable to hostile forces, then calling for some defender help can be the best option.

If you're looking for an organization of regions to have your back with years of experience, I'd look to The Founderless Regions Alliance (FRA). The thing is though, you'll be expected to have their back as well. The FRA, despite their recent criticisms, is actually a good option. Many of their members have been playing NS for years and years and know how to build a region. They also have this nasty habit of being cosmopolitan, so you could potentially gain new and experienced nations for your region through your FRA membership. They also are developing a project where they aid vulnerable regions by giving them the resources to build a stronger region.

If you're looking for a defender force to help you secure your own region, The Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organization (TITO) is hands down the best organization to contact. They have the sheer forces necessary to keep your region invulnerable from attack while you build up the influence required to lock-down your region. They also are experts in aiding regions in native refounds (examples include Australia and Deutschland).

If you're vulnerable to attack and are not taking preemptive measures to defend yourselves, you're relying people such as myself to be online during updates to defend your region. I can defend your region a dozen times, but I only have to lose once for your region to be griefed by a coalition of invader forces. Also, defender unity does exist. Its the very unity that forced invaders to unify for their purposes. Invaders now have to pile in 40+ nations just to keep it out of defender reach.
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Postby Pauline Bonaparte » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:03 am

raider unity guise

us raiders gotta stick 2gether

everyone hates us :(

prolly cuz we're so cool 8)

bbiab gotta do my algebra homework
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Postby Trick Shot » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:31 am

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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:40 am

I would say if Nationstates wanted protection Mikeswill / Highlander is more friendly with invaders :P however if he wanted protection as Delegate of the region I am sure he knows orgs / groups to approach.
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Postby Tancerlo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:47 am

Pauline Bonaparte wrote:raider unity guise

us raiders gotta stick 2gether

everyone hates us :(

prolly cuz we're so cool 8)

bbiab gotta do my algebra homework

:lol:

But eww algebra
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