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Postby Reddogkeno101 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:41 am

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:59 am

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Poll Nazis? :eyebrow: I think not.

The pollaetarian guard are liberating the proles from the polls.

So Aryan race poll creators?


Would they invade polland? :blush:
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Postby Rifty » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:09 am

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Rifty wrote:So Aryan race poll creators?


Would they invade polland? :blush:

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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:49 am

Fun idea. I personally influenced the The Rejected Realms' motto poll by keeping option B three votes ahead. 'Cause the best kind of motto is one that no-one understands (a Latin one). :p

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Postby Zaolat » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:30 am

McMasterdonia wrote:I love the originality of your ideas Codger/Polldger/Pollaetorian. Keep it up :clap:

It always existed Guy. It just hadn't had a name yet. Codger and I have been doing this stuff for ages.
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Postby New Sopo » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:36 pm

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McMasterdonia wrote:I love the originality of your ideas Codger/Polldger/Pollaetorian. Keep it up :clap:

It always existed Guy. It just hadn't had a name yet. Codger and I have been doing this stuff for ages.


But now it will grow until no poll is safe!

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Postby McMasterdonia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:38 pm

Zaolat wrote:
McMasterdonia wrote:I love the originality of your ideas Codger/Polldger/Pollaetorian. Keep it up :clap:

It always existed. It just hadn't had a name yet. Codger and I have been doing this stuff for ages.

Thanks captain obvious. It has existed for as long as there have been polls around. I encouraged him to poll raid my polls when I was TNP Delegate, just simply stating that it is an original idea and that I hope Codger and his team continues his good work :)

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Postby Zaolat » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:46 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:
Zaolat wrote:It always existed. It just hadn't had a name yet. Codger and I have been doing this stuff for ages.

Thanks captain obvious. It has existed for as long as there have been polls around. I encouraged him to poll raid my polls when I was TNP Delegate, just simply stating that it is an original idea and that I hope Codger and his team continues his good work :)


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Postby Pollaetorian » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:13 pm

McMasterdonia wrote:
Zaolat wrote:It always existed. It just hadn't had a name yet. Codger and I have been doing this stuff for ages.

Thanks captain obvious. It has existed for as long as there have been polls around. I encouraged him to poll raid my polls when I was TNP Delegate, just simply stating that it is an original idea and that I hope Codger and his team continues his good work :)


TNP is a polling heathen. Always a cause of troubles that we need to pacify again and again. The TNP government should really establish a home guard. It would be an education, rewarded when they pick things right and corrected when they pick the wrong option.

Eventually the residents there will develop an intuitive sense of right and wrong and all of TNP will vote with a single heart, lifting themselves from the yolk of the polls and become contributing members.
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Postby The Sapientia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:34 pm

Poll raiders with a fancy name... Sounds like fun!
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Postby Pollaetorian » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:55 am

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The Pollaetorian Guard and the Zombie Dilemma


From inception, the Pollaetorian Guard has prided on its clear sense of purpose. Distinct from proles or reckless 'poll raiders' who flock to every poll, the Pollaetorian Guard are distinguished by their discretion, their impeccable judgment when to intervene backed by an unimpeachable truth which lies above all criticism. Polls are for proles, and while it deadens the civic integrity of the masses to see their region prostitute their sovereignty, it is also mostly harmless. Uneducated entertainment to an uneducated populace. Besides lofty aspiration to see the people soar towards proper democracy, the risk is that trivial polls breed complacency in more critical matters. The Pollaetorian Guard knows when to take charge in these pivotal moments to protect the region.

The Zombie Dilemma presents such a moment to the Pollaetorian Guard. Each nation is faced with a choice whether to cure, kill or defect to the zombie menace. For Pollaetorians the obvious, only option is find a cure. We the honourable will not surrender to any threat nor turn on our brothers or sisters or our charges while there exists any possibility they could be saved. That said we understand that others have lesser moral codes and if that is their decision it falls to their conscience and to their maker. What we can not tolerate however are those regions, who faced with existential threat, still surrender their decision to the polls. It is more merciful that we save them, even if they are not willing to save themselves.

The Pollaetorian Guard are heartened that overall, the majority of polling proles have the moral fibre to seek a cure and not falter at the first sign of panic. This meant the instances where we needed to intervene were greatly reduced.

The Pollaetorian Guard were decisive in nine regions, tipping the balance for a cure and humanity and preventing a capitulation of the region to a grizzly rotting fate. Many more have voted for a cure without needing our assistance.



It would be amiss to not admit that there are some polling barbarias that even the Pollaetorian Guards can not contain (we refused to give any suggestion of puppet flooding). Examples include Glass Gallows, The Brotherland Alliance and The Post Apocalyptic Divide. But to reiterate, most regions are pro cure.

Now as the Zombie Apocalypse reaches fever pitch, the Pollaetorian Guard wishes all a valiant fight.
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Postby Bodobol » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:17 pm

Poll Police was better, even if the name was less clever. This idea isn't socialist enough, 0/10 for you Codger. :P
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Postby Pollaetorian » Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:38 pm

Bodobol wrote:Poll Police was better, even if the name was less clever. This idea isn't socialist enough, 0/10 for you Codger. :P



Poll police never had the 'higher purpose' that makes this worthwhile ;). That's what makes it fun.
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Postby SkillCrossbones » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:25 am

I'm fine with the idea, I just think it's lame how the nations that "infiltrated" and rigged the poll, at least in my region, weren't even active until late in the day, so they were just contributing to the zombie problem.

If they really cared they could have at least logged in and started researching a cure at some point.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:36 pm

SkillCrossbones wrote:I'm fine with the idea, I just think it's lame how the nations that "infiltrated" and rigged the poll, at least in my region, weren't even active until late in the day, so they were just contributing to the zombie problem.

If they really cared they could have at least logged in and started researching a cure at some point.


Your region had 2 nations who voted in the poll. One for cure, one for exterminate. In fact, you did not vote in your own poll, despite having over a 7 to do so. You can not claim you have an interested in addressing the problem, or active enough yourself to be qualified to comment about our contribution to the zombie problem,

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The Pollaetorian Guard, heirs of a learned academic tradition, will soon be providing our commentary of the world's social political issues. We are warrior scholars, not brutes. Our next edition will feature a salute to Kringalia, delegate of The South Pacific. Is Kring the King of Polling the Proles? The Pollaetorian Guard can not contain its excitement about the remarkable polling events in TSP. A role model for us all, our next edition how polls -could- be harnessed for the common good.
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Postby SkillCrossbones » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:48 pm

Pollaetorian wrote:
SkillCrossbones wrote:I'm fine with the idea, I just think it's lame how the nations that "infiltrated" and rigged the poll, at least in my region, weren't even active until late in the day, so they were just contributing to the zombie problem.

If they really cared they could have at least logged in and started researching a cure at some point.


Your region had 2 nations who voted in the poll. One for cure, one for exterminate. In fact, you did not vote in your own poll, despite having over a 7 to do so. You can not claim you have an interested in addressing the problem, or active enough yourself to be qualified to comment about our contribution to the zombie problem,


I abstained from the poll by choice, not inactivity. If it ended in a tie, I would have cast a vote. Regardless, the poll was not binding anyway. Nations could have embraced the zombies if they so chose.

Your claims of my inactivity, or lack of interest are misfounded. Consider that I was just one of the two nations in my region who did some 99% of the zombie cleansing (including saving one of your own ranks from being overrun).

All I'm saying is that if you're going to crusade, at least help when the zombies actually strike.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:19 am

SkillCrossbones wrote:
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Your region had 2 nations who voted in the poll. One for cure, one for exterminate. In fact, you did not vote in your own poll, despite having over a 7 to do so. You can not claim you have an interested in addressing the problem, or active enough yourself to be qualified to comment about our contribution to the zombie problem,


I abstained from the poll by choice, not inactivity. If it ended in a tie, I would have cast a vote. Regardless, the poll was not binding anyway. Nations could have embraced the zombies if they so chose.

Your claims of my inactivity, or lack of interest are misfounded. Consider that I was just one of the two nations in my region who did some 99% of the zombie cleansing (including saving one of your own ranks from being overrun).

All I'm saying is that if you're going to crusade, at least help when the zombies actually strike.


Our business is polls. Our crusade is on regions who turn to polls to make decisions. An non binding poll is even more blasphemous than a binding one - at least a binding poll one leads to a decision, no matter how flawed that decision process may be, what use is a non binding poll?

Your posts are criticisms of the execution once the zombie event had started, while ours concern a person's mind and moral character. So let's examine your character. http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8337074

Well people, "research a cure" won the poll by a 2-1 landslide... however considering the lack of activity here, I doubt we can get enough nations researching a cure to effectively combat the tide of zombies before most everyone is dead/infected. Therefore I feel the wisest option will simply be to switch to "exterminate." This is simply a suggestion of course, but that's what I'm going to do.


That even the thought of choosing exterminate crossed your mind is a damning mark on your moral fibre. As you now also admit, that in the event of a tie you would have casted your vote, which from the above would have meant exterminate would have won. If anything it shows how fortuitous it was the Pollaetorian Guard was present to rescue the poll. That you consequently (and we acknowledge, effectively) acted to cure was coincidental - you never really believed.

Finally, my nation there did factually, pursue cure as well. It says so on the "Z-stats". More could have been done as you say, e.g. earlier login, fired some cure missiles, but our hearts are pure and our consciences clear.

Edit: In our righteous fury, we might underplayed that you did, in the end did make the right choice cure. You are just and honourable warrior and should proud of your resistance to the zombie horde. Though misguided toward us, you served your region well.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:22 pm

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The Pollaetorian Guard supports Animal Welfare



Let it be known to all across Nationstates that The Pollaetorian Guard supports animal welfare. Dogs and cats are both ideal pets with unique personalities deserving of our love and companionship. Nationstates will NOT be beholden to the cat or dog lobby luring us to favour one over the other. Pet owners have a responsibility to find out their own needs at when they are ready to buy a pet and of what sort. A pet is cared for a life time and not something one should ever use a poll as a guide.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:29 pm

I would've expected the Cat Burglars to raid the poll in a certain way...
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Postby The Sapientia » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:I would've expected the Cat Burglars to raid the poll in a certain way...


Are they still active?
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Postby Zaolat » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:06 pm

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The Blaatschapen wrote:I would've expected the Cat Burglars to raid the poll in a certain way...


Are they still active?


No. Only a couple or few are at least a bit partially active in NS anymore.
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Postby Pollaetorian » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:26 pm

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War averted in New Egypt



Overnight while most nations were soundly sleeping, an important decision was being held. In the far reaches of New Egypt, voters faced a choice - should they give in to their gung-ho tendencies and rush in to 'dominate' a war, or could they remain rational and instead try to prevent one?

New Egypt is an unassuming region of 21 nations, yet the goodwill of most of its residents were hijacked by its most active members, Hyperionsun and New Zanbia. "WAR! WAR! WAR!" they constantly chanted, despite it being obvious that the majority of the nations were undeveloped and woefully unprepared for war. It didn't matter at all for these two zealous warmongers though, for they were rich, ready and have arms to sale. Hyperionsun, a degenerated capitalist 'paradise' of elven assassins looking their next pound of blood money, the "Military State" of New Zanbia, headed by Father Knows Best God Emperor Kane with an unhealthy obsession with battle droids. Together they conspired to craft a poll to bestow them the veneer of legitimacy they need to send others to slaughter, with full knowledge others are too busy trying to survive as graziers and labourers to vote against.

The Pollaetorian Guard is Nationstates' vanguard from the unjust outcomes led astray through the false idol of poll-democracy. Here is a blatant example of polls used by oligarchy rather than democracy. War is never an option one makes willingly, especially where prevention is possible. The Pollaetorian Guard is proud to represent and defend the universal right to peaceful aspiration for the world's peoples, overturning the poll and sending the message to the instigators of conflicts: We stand for reason. We stand for civilisation. We say NO to war!

Some question the futility of our mission and ask whether the same horrible result occur through a proper non-poll government. True, but with key a difference. A true democracy developed through the consensus of engaged peoples, whether those who are vetted through an off site forum, or at least discussed through the RMB takes responsibility for their actions. Nations action unilaterally also takes responsibility for the consequences of their actions. Poll-democracy is farce is poses to reflect the people where none such exists. Where the stakes are so high, such as war, the Pollaetorian Guard urges a stance of caution.
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Postby HyperionSun » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:41 pm

You give a very probable case. However, the answer is both. If you can prevent it, then go ahead. If not, dominate. I do agree to some point though, you need to try to prevent it if you can. Besides, we're in a war right now in roleplay. So before you come spouting that ridiculous nonsense to us about us being the bad guys, ask yourself this question. Would you stay still while someone murdered your people and burnt down you villages?

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Postby Pauline Bonaparte » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:47 pm

Looking at the very learned citizens that vote in most regional polls, I can do nothing but lend by utmost support to the Pollaetorian effort to clean up these messes.
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Postby HyperionSun » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:27 pm

Mess? So now you think War is a mess? The poll, I'll have you know, was TIED 4-4 at one point. Look, I agree with him to a point. Negotiation IS the answer, but not always. You still haven't answered my question. Would you, YOU, sit still and do nothing while your people are murdered and your villages burned to the ground?
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