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Upper Drizzilia
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Postby Upper Drizzilia » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:45 pm

Cavask wrote:Also you guys suppressed 6-7 years of RMB posts? What the hell?


Oh yeah that was me. You're welcome :)
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Vandoosa
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Postby Vandoosa » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:47 pm

*blinkblink* I sure hope you will make the region cute now..

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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:17 pm

Upper Drizzilia wrote:
Cavask wrote:Also you guys suppressed 6-7 years of RMB posts? What the hell?


Oh yeah that was me. You're welcome :)

Yeah, well me = Cavask. You crapped in the wrong sandbox
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Baghdad Bob
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Postby Baghdad Bob » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:49 am

CODEX INCURSUS
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Vandoosa
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Postby Vandoosa » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:50 am

YAY! I was in 26 of those! *new record*

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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:50 am

Todd McCloud wrote:Yeah, well me = Cavask. You crapped in the wrong sandbox


We didn't get the reputation we have by crapping in the right sandboxes, Todd.
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Vandoosa
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Postby Vandoosa » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:20 am

YAY! *puffs out and squeaks a lot* Isabella made it to 30 of those! a new record for Isabellas!

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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:10 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:Yeah, well me = Cavask. You crapped in the wrong sandbox


We didn't get the reputation we have by crapping in the right sandboxes, Todd.

So regions which are founded by active retired raiders are now fair game?
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Bob Moran
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Postby Bob Moran » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:19 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
We didn't get the reputation we have by crapping in the right sandboxes, Todd.

So regions which are founded by active retired raiders are now fair game?

Contact the chief of Staff if you have concerns. If we're at the point of applying raider principles, let's not raise the issue in the drama forum.
We're not omniscient, you can't expect to have your region not raided if you keep the delegacy executive, and don't give any indication that the region belongs to a raider.

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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:24 pm

Bob Moran wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:So regions which are founded by active retired raiders are now fair game?

Contact the chief of Staff if you have concerns. If we're at the point of applying raider principles, let's not raise the issue in the drama forum.
We're not omniscient, you can't expect to have your region not raided if you keep the delegacy executive, and don't give any indication that the region belongs to a raider.

I figured an active founder was enough... apparently that's not the case anymore.

And I'm not contacting anyone. This wasn't my mistake.
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Aurum Rider
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Founded: Dec 23, 2013
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Postby Aurum Rider » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:34 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:And I'm not contacting anyone. This wasn't my mistake.


We're forced to hit active founder regions very often. Do not delude yourself in thinking that all of TBR knows who you are, who all your puppets, are, and what regions they run. If there's nothing that distinguishes it as a region that we should not touch, then we'll raid it whether the founder is active or not.

TL;DR If you don't put the minimal effort in, don't expect us to. See:
Bob Moran wrote:you can't expect to have your region not raided if you keep the delegacy executive, and don't give any indication that the region belongs to a raider.
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Tano
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Postby Tano » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 pm

Aurum Rider wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:And I'm not contacting anyone. This wasn't my mistake.


We're forced to hit active founder regions very often. Do not delude yourself in thinking that all of TBR knows who you are, who all your puppets, are, and what regions they run. If there's nothing that distinguishes it as a region that we should not touch, then we'll raid it whether the founder is active or not.

TL;DR If you don't put the minimal effort in, don't expect us to. See:
Bob Moran wrote:you can't expect to have your region not raided if you keep the delegacy executive, and don't give any indication that the region belongs to a raider.

So TBR doesn't give two shits about prominent raiders if they've never heard of em before. Good to know.

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hobbes: at least,not on NS
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Coraxion
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Postby Coraxion » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:46 pm

...Actually, I am always amazed when "Raiders" come to this thread cry about happenings in their beloved puppet dumps. Equally, I never get tired repeating same lines again and again.

Quick Instructions:

1. Keep founders alive
2. Make Delegate access barred (and Lock your "Raider" dumps)
3. If special reasons keep WAD executive exist, Please contact The Black Riders' General Staff
4. Try to maintain at least some level of Purity, before calling yourself as a Raider

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Aurum Rider
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Postby Aurum Rider » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:47 pm

Tano wrote:So TBR doesn't give two shits about prominent raiders if they've never heard of em before. Good to know.
*Raider Unity, huzzah huzzah and all that bullshit*


A slight twist on my words. Not all TBR raiders know if people are "prominent" given that they are either new, or work exclusively with TBR, and thus do not meet prominent raiders, or hear about them.
And as was said before, you cannot expect us to know if a region is run by a raider if there is no indication.

Aurum Rider" wrote:TL;DR If you don't put the minimal effort in, don't expect us to. See:
Bob Moran wrote:you can't expect to have your region not raided if you keep the delegacy executive, and don't give any indication that the region belongs to a raider.
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Tano
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Postby Tano » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:49 pm

Coraxion wrote:...Actually, I am always amazed when "Raiders" come to this thread cry about happenings in their beloved puppet dumps. Equally, I never get tired repeating same lines again and again.

Quick Instructions:

1. Keep founders alive
2. Make Delegate access barred (and Lock your "Raider" dumps)
3. If special reasons keep WAD executive exist, Please contact The Black Riders' General Staff
4. Try to maintain at least some level of Purity, before calling yourself as a Raider

I'ts not a puppet dump though...
Tano Holland
Govindia: Do you consider me a friend, or just an acquaintance or what?
hobbes: I don't particularly consider anyone a true 'friend'
hobbes: at least,not on NS
Govindia: why is that?
hobbes: because
hobbes: everyone here is a jackass
hobbes: myself included

Pixie: *heart sploosh*
Tano: if your heart is splooshing you should contact a doctor
Tano: hearts are supposed to thump not sploosh
Pixie: No this is normal
Pixie: intense emotion causes me to hemorrage internally
Pixie: my life is like a really depressing comedic episode of The X-Files

Khron: we need an achievment of rem's face just for Tano
Pixie: haha
Pixie: "be Tano"

Brunhilde: My quotes should be in more signatures.

Also known as Takane or Terisclu

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Tano
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Postby Tano » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:51 pm

Aurum Rider wrote:
Tano wrote:So TBR doesn't give two shits about prominent raiders if they've never heard of em before. Good to know.
*Raider Unity, huzzah huzzah and all that bullshit*


A slight twist on my words. Not all TBR raiders know if people are "prominent" given that they are either new, or work exclusively with TBR, and thus do not meet prominent raiders.
As was said before, you cannot expect us to know if a region is run by a raider if there is no indication.

Aurum Rider" wrote:TL;DR If you don't put the minimal effort in, don't expect us to. See:

It's true that not every rider is going to know prominent players, but the general attidutde towards Todd was very condescending, despite his reputation as a rather famous raider.
Tano Holland
Govindia: Do you consider me a friend, or just an acquaintance or what?
hobbes: I don't particularly consider anyone a true 'friend'
hobbes: at least,not on NS
Govindia: why is that?
hobbes: because
hobbes: everyone here is a jackass
hobbes: myself included

Pixie: *heart sploosh*
Tano: if your heart is splooshing you should contact a doctor
Tano: hearts are supposed to thump not sploosh
Pixie: No this is normal
Pixie: intense emotion causes me to hemorrage internally
Pixie: my life is like a really depressing comedic episode of The X-Files

Khron: we need an achievment of rem's face just for Tano
Pixie: haha
Pixie: "be Tano"

Brunhilde: My quotes should be in more signatures.

Also known as Takane or Terisclu

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Emrys Mercer
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Founded: Jan 04, 2013
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Postby Emrys Mercer » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:53 pm

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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:59 pm

Coraxion wrote:...Actually, I am always amazed when "Raiders" come to this thread cry about happenings in their beloved puppet dumps. Equally, I never get tired repeating same lines again and again.

Quick Instructions:

1. Keep founders alive
2. Make Delegate access barred (and Lock your "Raider" dumps)
3. If special reasons keep WAD executive exist, Please contact The Black Riders' General Staff
4. Try to maintain at least some level of Purity, before calling yourself as a Raider

Poland is not a puppet dump.

Delegates there want access to the controls so they can boot troublemakers, request / deny embassies, and clean out commie spam. And frankly, if "raider purity" was what it was back when I raided, the "raider purists" wouldn't have invaded a region with an active founder who has said on several occasions (and who some in and around the raid knew) that the founding nation belonged to a former raider.

I'm not going to let this turn into an argument that lasts pages. Bottom line here is I get the concept, yay raiding, but I don't like how I had to clean up a region that helped me go raider from a group of individuals I once identified with and frankly still give a hoot about. And I'm still cleaning up that RMB. It makes it worse when I'm more or less told that this was somehow my fault, cause it isn't.

Just don't do it again.
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Coraxion
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Postby Coraxion » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:12 pm

@Todd: You seemingly take it personally. Sad. That kind behavior is usually best way for recognizing 'a Native'.

If Region can be raided it is automatically considered as a target by Cimmeria. However, that approach is not entirely supported by The Black Riders military Doctrine.

A Responsibility of happenings remain always within the Nativedom, not within the Raiderdom.

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Bob Moran
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Founded: Sep 08, 2013
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Postby Bob Moran » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:17 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:I'm not going to let this turn into an argument that lasts pages.
Just don't do it again.

This is why a simple telegram to the Staff would have solved everything, instead of starting a forum arguement. We have a blacklist and your region will be added to it. I hope that will end the discussion.
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Karpathos
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Postby Karpathos » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:53 pm

Bob Moran wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:I'm not going to let this turn into an argument that lasts pages.
Just don't do it again.

This is why a simple telegram to the Staff would have solved everything, instead of starting a forum arguement. We have a blacklist and your region will be added to it. I hope that will end the discussion.


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Crossbones Sally
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Founded: Aug 27, 2014
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Postby Crossbones Sally » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:01 am

You guys, raid regions with delegates so I can have fun too! :lol:

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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:35 am

Crossbones Sally wrote:You guys, raid regions with delegates so I can have fun too! :lol:

Wow, its a fenda! :shock:
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Todd McCloud
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:32 am

Coraxion wrote:@Todd: You seemingly take it personally. Sad. That kind behavior is usually best way for recognizing 'a Native'.

If Region can be raided it is automatically considered as a target by Cimmeria. However, that approach is not entirely supported by The Black Riders military Doctrine.

A Responsibility of happenings remain always within the Nativedom, not within the Raiderdom.

That's a different way of saying 'We're really sorry we defaced a region founded by a prominent former raider who in part maintained and perpetuated the raiding ideal', but oh well. Life goes on.
"Your uniform doesn't seem to fit. You're much too alive in it."

"You must be the change you want to see in the world" - Gandhi
"The worst prison would be a closed heart." - Pope John Paul II

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