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Anumia
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Postby Anumia » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:42 am

Mad Jack wrote:To be fair... are there any positive stories of Unibot around any more?


Only when they're written by Unibot in one of his many media outlets. :P

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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:19 am

Congratulations Equislism and happy birthday! Here's to another ten years! *raises glass* :D

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Postby Mad Jack » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:34 am

Mad Jack wrote:
Mad Jack wrote:What in particular is made up Mahaj? :)

It is now five days on and Mahaj hasn't elaborated on which details were made up.

I'd now like to publicly call upon the Chief of the Band to apologise for alleging that details were made up - and to withdraw the accusation. :)

It is now a whopping 23 days during which Mahaj has failed to disclose which details were made up.

I'd like to - again - call upon the Chief of the Band to apologise and withdraw the accusation. :)
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Postby The Miniluv Messenger » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:09 pm

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Malice is Helping GCRs Again?


Coup attempt is thwarted and brought to light in The North Pacific thanks to The Brotherhood of Malice

By Venico




About three hours after the last major update, Venico and Koth of The Brotherhood of Malice received a telegram from an anonymous nation. It stated that its main nation was about 150 endorsements away from McMasterdonia, TNP Delegate, and asked them if they would be interested. Venico played along in order to find out who this actually was in order to bring the information to light and to see if these claims were true.

After being added on Skype, the conversation continued and the nation revealed their true identity. It was Haafinger and Hjaalmarch. The claims were verified then as H&H was indeed 141 endorsements away from the delegate and only 34 away from the vice. This threat was serious and if it landed in the wrong hands, an operation could have caused The North Pacific a huge headache. As the conversation progressed, it was eventually uncovered that this person was claiming to be the original region crasher, Sythia.

Bringing this information to McMasterdonia, Venico chose his friends at TNP. His comment on foiling a raiding forefather was this, "I believe in raider unity. I was torn about how I should feel, selling out one of the original raiders. But I discovered the very reason I was torn was also the reason why I did the right thing. The North Pacific is currently aiding The Brotherhood of Malice in the raid of St. Abbaddon. They are our friends and brothers in arms. I cannot allow attacks on my allies, nor will I allow a threat to grow. I believe in raider unity, it's not my fault that Sythia doesn't."

In a statement given by McM, he states "Attempts to undermine the elected Government and topple the elected Delegate cannot be tolerated. It is imperative that we remain alert to preserve constitutional order in the region, and take immediate action to eliminate any threats it faces." After banning H&H, McMasterdonia was forced to rescind this ban as there was some contention over whether or not the delegate followed proper procedures. An indictment has been granted and hopefully we'll soon see a case being presented at the court.

Due to this show of good faith, The North Pacific has opened in game embassies with BoM and is opening forum embassies in the near future. Hopefully this will lead to continued military cooperation and a strong bond between the two regions. It wasn't so long ago that Malice was leading the charge in Osiris in establishing democracy and unifying the region.

Despite taking the field with malice in their hearts, it seems they might have a soft spot for GCRs there too.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:54 pm

Hm. Interesting.

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Postby Zeorus » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:07 pm

This guy sounds like a pleasure to chat with indeed. :P Props to Venico for doing the right thing.

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Postby Unibot III » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:33 pm

Interesting.
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Postby Venico » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:38 am

Unibot III wrote:Interesting.


In what way?

Zeorus wrote:This guy sounds like a pleasure to chat with indeed. :P Props to Venico for doing the right thing.

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That's what Raider Unity is about mate. =P
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:13 am

I just think its funny how the article is framed in terms of BoM helping TNP and not.. Venico -- and I like the subtle framing of TNP as a member of raider unity. Excellent propaganda. Top notch for a late night read. Good technique.
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Postby Anumia » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:37 am

Unibot III wrote:I just think its funny how the article is framed in terms of BoM helping TNP and not.. Venico -- and I like the subtle framing of TNP as a member of raider unity. Excellent propaganda. Top notch for a late night read. Good technique.


This is the funniest thing I have read in a month. I'm having some mild trouble breathing at this point.

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Postby Charax » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:51 am

Unibot III wrote:I just think its funny how the article is framed in terms of BoM helping TNP and not.. Venico -- and I like the subtle framing of TNP as a member of raider unity. Excellent propaganda. Top notch for a late night read. Good technique.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:48 am

Unibot III wrote:I just think its funny how the article is framed in terms of BoM helping TNP and not.. Venico -- and I like the subtle framing of TNP as a member of raider unity. Excellent propaganda. Top notch for a late night read. Good technique.

TNP helped with a raid. Thus, raider unity.
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Postby McMasterdonia » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:27 am

Miniluvers stick together :P

but you may be kicked out at some point

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:12 am

Both founders of the region, myself and Ven, received the TG and took action against it. If that doesn't represent the region, I don't know what does.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:35 am

Plus, Venico and Koth were no doubt approached in large part because they lead BoM
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby SkyDip » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:54 am

Venico and Koth - good guys all along!
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Postby Venico » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:00 am

Unibot III wrote:I just think its funny how the article is framed in terms of BoM helping TNP and not.. Venico -- and I like the subtle framing of TNP as a member of raider unity. Excellent propaganda. Top notch for a late night read. Good technique.


Both Koth and I were TGed. I asked him to stay silent so I could have the guy's full attention but we were talking about it together. Thus, BoM. And TNP is helping us with a raid...how is that not Raider Unity? O.o

SkyDip wrote:Venico and Koth - good guys all along!


And we are NOT good guys. =P We just don't turn our back on our allies.

*edit* Damn apostrophes
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Postby All Good People » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:47 pm

NS gets very boring when there are only 'Good Guys'.
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Postby NoStringsAttached » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:39 pm

All Good People wrote:NS gets very boring when there are only 'Good Guys'.


This is true. What is the point of being good if there is no evil?
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Postby SkyDip » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:40 pm

Venico wrote:
SkyDip wrote:Venico and Koth - good guys all along!


And we are NOT good guys. =P We just don't turn our back on our allies.

Sure thing, Venico. You may act all scary with your malice and robes and candles, but underneath we all know you're a tickle-monster that just wants to be friends with everybody.
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Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Land filled with People » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:42 pm

I'm looking forward to seeing the actions BoM will take against TBR for their continued (attempted) take-overs of other allied regions :)

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Postby Venico » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:59 pm

Land filled with People wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing the actions BoM will take against TBR for their continued (attempted) take-overs of other allied regions :)


Who is BoM allied with that TBR has been trying to take over?
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Postby Frattastan II » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:03 pm

If it counts, they tagged that region LKE pretends to own.
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Postby Venico » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:07 pm

And both Koth and I have commented that TBR needs to be more careful in their targets. Heck they even tagged one of Koth's regions a bit ago. I believe it was Koth's reaction that got Gest to crack down a bit.
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Postby Land filled with People » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:24 pm

Venico wrote:
Land filled with People wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing the actions BoM will take against TBR for their continued (attempted) take-overs of other allied regions :)

Who is BoM allied with that TBR has been trying to take over?

The 3 most recent I can think of (which all happened in the same update) - yet another take over of TBH's region, The Confederacy; a take over in The Land of Boobies whilst it was being occupied by Ainur and an attempt on QuietPlace, a NSA member's region. These all occurred after they tagged one of Koth's regions, I believe.

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