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Postby Communist Eraser » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:53 pm

Nicely done. Congrats.
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Postby Gavin Novawk » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:18 pm

This demonstrates to the world that The Land of Kings and Emperors shall not stand for violation of our sovereignty. Under the guidance of His Supreme Majesty, Emperor Onder Kelkia, we have continually defeated those who wish to act against us and this is yet another example. I would like to congratulate all those who took part in the operation, especially our allies for their support for our Empire!

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Postby Alruniea » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:30 pm

We the people and government of The True Rebirth humbly and unreservedly apologize to The Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors for violating the LKE’s sovereignty over Polis by posting a recruitment on their regional message board. We recognize why the United Imperial Armed Forces have chosen to retaliate. We promise never to disrespect the territory or prerogatives of the Emperor of the LKE again.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:16 am

Progress. This is good.
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Postby Atelia » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:23 am

Oh god i hope my region is never attacked like this. But congrats to you!
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:20 am

Your region has a founder and is therefore safe.
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Postby Whiskum » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:20 am

Alruniea wrote:We the people and government of The True Rebirth humbly and unreservedly apologize to The Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors for violating the LKE’s sovereignty over Polis by posting a recruitment on their regional message board. We recognize why the United Imperial Armed Forces have chosen to retaliate. We promise never to disrespect the territory or prerogatives of the Emperor of the LKE again.

The apology is accepted.

Accordingly, magnanimous and generous in victory, the United Imperial Armed Forces are withdrawing.
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Postby Mad Jack » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:24 pm

Would anyone like to explain why UIAF forces are endorsing the Gatesville Inc invading delegate in Osiris? :eyebrow:
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Postby Zeorus » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:10 pm

Mad Jack wrote:Would anyone like to explain why UIAF forces are endorsing the Gatesville Inc invading delegate in Osiris? :eyebrow:


I'm most curious myself.
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Postby Avakael » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:16 pm

They have been very carefully avoiding explaining their actions to anyone. Don't count on receiving one.
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Postby Idantir » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:04 am

I'm reminded of the time back in March when the Land of Kings and Emperors banned Cormac, then Spiritus Vice-President, from their forums, despite an agreement for him to be allowed on there and to serve as our ambassador, because of something that apparently happened awhile back when he was in their government. This led to the cutting of relations between our two regions.

It's obvious that there's an intense dislike for Cormac from that quarter. I wouldn't be surprised if they just want to try to help strike a blow at him, though of course that would be too petty a reason to actually state.
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:22 pm

The Kemetic Republic of Osiris formally severs its relations with The New Inquisition and the Land of Kings and Emperors.

This decision comes in response to the deployment of the United Imperial Armed Forces in Osiris in support of the illegitimate, illegal, tyrannical delegate in violation of Osiran sovereignty.

We are disappointed and saddened at the need to take this drastic step, but having received confirmation of the decision from UIAF commanders, we are left with no choice but to cut all ties with the UIAF and its two constituent regions. We hope that our allies will mirror this step, and that diplomatic outrage will make clear to the commanders of the UIAF that their disregard for sovereign regions and their communities will not be allowed to stand.

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Postby Aurum and Argentum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:42 pm

^ Bold words of a government in chaos and a pharaoh in exile. :ugeek:

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Postby the Imperial Crown » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:50 pm

I'm personally quite sad that the UIAF deployed to support Douria, but given the circumstances, I suppose it's just one more occasion where I misjudged people and believed they were more honourable than they really were.
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Postby The United Imperial Armed Forces » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:55 pm

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The United Imperial Armed Forces Press Release
Statement on the Osiris Deployment
6 July, 2013

On 2nd July, the United Imperial Armed Forces commenced a deployment to Osiris in support of Gatesville’s occupation. This deployment continues.

So far there are 38 units in Osiris under the auspices of the UIAF, 35 flying our flag. This is a significant deployment and is testimony to the capacity and readiness of the LKE and TNI to undertake large-scale controversial operations when we see fit. We are glad to do so in support of Gatesville, TNI’s close ally in the now defunct Sovereign Regions’ Alliance Treaty Organization, on whose behalf TNIAF previously raided, refounded and reclaimed Concosia.

Game-created regions do not as a category have a special exemption from UIAF military intervention, but are only at risk if they engage in activity calculated to oppose the interests of TNI and the LKE. This was symbolized by TNI’s invasion of the FRA member-region, The Rejected Realms, in February 2012. Nothing has changed in our willingness to act when provoked. In stark contrast, in both 2011 and earlier this year, TNI and LKE have been active and vociferous opponents of coups in The South Pacific. These coups were respectively orchestrated by a former Arch Chancellor of the FRA and a former Chief Lieutenant of the UDL.

In the case of Osiris, the LKE and TNI are confronted with a region under heavy UDL influence, and a region which moreover which has gone out of its way to denigrate and insult us. In December 2012, Osiris revoked its embassy in the LKE, despite the fact it had many other inactive embassies, with an insulting and entirely disproportionate message over the LKE having not attended to masking its diplomat within ‘80 hours’ their arrival of on the LKE forum. This action was particularly ironic in light of the fact that it took over a month for an LKE diplomat to receive masking when applying for an embassy in Osiris.

More recently, in April 2013, the Osiris News Network saw fit to publish an article entitled ‘War Not Going Well For Onder’. Through this article Osiris involved itself in TNI and the LKE’s wars on the FRA and the UDL by belittling the UIAF’s efforts. Osiris did so with no provocation and of its own freewill, though it is perfectly possible that its actual stance was tempered by UDL influence. By involving itself in military propaganda against the UIAF, Osiris gave a generous invitation for the UIAF to provide them with a more accurate impression of our capabilities. Yet another coup and act of instability has now occurred in Osiris, symbolic of the dysfunctional and factionalized nature of its regional government. Furnished with this opportunity, we have accordingly accepted their invite.

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Postby Dalimbar » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:16 pm

It is nice to hear from UIAF regarding their rationale for supporting Gatesville against Osiris. All I will say at this time is that once the Delegacy is back in the hands of Osiris (it will, it is inevitable if you remember your history), we will remember who are our friends and who crossed us.
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Postby the Imperial Crown » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:21 pm

So, you've thrown the toys out of the pram, into the face of your nursemaid because of a tabloid article, and the fact that I deemed LKE inactive?

And you've taken this long to suitably raise a grievance... despite the fact that Osiris and TNI didn't open an embassy until recently? Normally, if one side has a grievance, they take the time to discuss it when an opportunity presents itself - as it had a chance to not long ago, namely when the Reich Elector and myself discussed opening embassies between Osiris and TNI - yet, instead of doing that, you've decided to deploy and support an invasion and coup of the government. That is extreme.

Incredibly extreme and petty.

In-fact whoever decided this completely astounds me.
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Postby The Mighty G » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:50 pm

Are Osiris really in a position to complain? http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=236095

They pretty much asked for it... and now they've got their payback they are whining about it and saying "not fair". :roll:

Pretty clear who is the real petty side around here... :lol:
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Postby Karpathos » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:50 pm

Osiris gave a generous invitation for the UIAF to provide them with a more accurate impression of our capabilities.


So piling a delegate who handed over their nation in a b!tch-fit is the extent of your capabilities? :roll: :clap: :bow:
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Postby Avakael » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:35 pm

The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:In the case of Osiris, the LKE and TNI are confronted with a region under heavy UDL influence, and a region which moreover which has gone out of its way to denigrate and insult us. In December 2012, Osiris revoked its embassy in the LKE, despite the fact it had many other inactive embassies, with an insulting and entirely disproportionate message over the LKE having not attended to masking its diplomat within ‘80 hours’ 1 month of their arrival of on the LKE forum. This action was particularly ironic in light of the fact that it took over a month for an LKE diplomat to receive masking when applying for an embassy in Osiris.


Fixed that for you. As the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Unknown (now no longer a citizen), a direct ally of the Land of Kings and Emperors, I worked to have that announcement not happen at all. I repeatedly prompted the administration team to mask the ambassador, prompts that were completely ignored at least three times. When it was clear, two weeks later that the LKE were bluntly ignoring the ambassador from Osiris, I worked to have that announcement held off for another two weeks, because I knew that the LKE was barely functioning as a region. When I ran out of patience, I personally asked for it to be delivered That's why your own ambassador was asked to wait for a month. I personally had a crack at how bloody useless you were when it finally broke, and frankly, I wish that I'd taken the opportunity back earlier in the year when the LKE doubly passed the expiration time limit on how long the LKE could leave their embassy in Unknown inactive, and had the Unknown/LKE treaty declared void.

Don't assist the invasion of another region to cover up the fact that the administration team of the LKE was utterly useless, don't claim that the coup is because Osiris has a stupid structure (it is barely different from that of either GCR ally of TNI) or because of defender influence, especially not when the leading occupying force (Gatesville) claims it is in Osiris to remove the influence of Biyah and friends- who are the counterbalance to any FRA/UDL influence in the region.
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Postby Pyravar » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:50 pm

The Mighty G wrote:Are Osiris really in a position to complain? http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=236095

They pretty much asked for it... and now they've got their payback they are whining about it and saying "not fair". :roll:

Pretty clear who is the real petty side around here... :lol:

This gets it in one. Osiris produced a news article which was essentially propaganda supporting the FRA and the UDL against the UIAF, denigrating the latter as militarily incompetent, and then complains of dishonour when the UIAF turn around and teaches them a lesson for it.


Avakael wrote:
The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:In the case of Osiris, the LKE and TNI are confronted with a region under heavy UDL influence, and a region which moreover which has gone out of its way to denigrate and insult us. In December 2012, Osiris revoked its embassy in the LKE, despite the fact it had many other inactive embassies, with an insulting and entirely disproportionate message over the LKE having not attended to masking its diplomat within ‘80 hours’ 1 month of their arrival of on the LKE forum. This action was particularly ironic in light of the fact that it took over a month for an LKE diplomat to receive masking when applying for an embassy in Osiris.


Fixed that for you. As the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Unknown (now no longer a citizen), a direct ally of the Land of Kings and Emperors, I worked to have that announcement not happen at all. I repeatedly prompted the administration team to mask the ambassador, prompts that were completely ignored at least three times. When it was clear, two weeks later that the LKE were bluntly ignoring the ambassador from Osiris, I worked to have that announcement held off for another two weeks, because I knew that the LKE was barely functioning as a region. When I ran out of patience, I personally asked for it to be delivered That's why your own ambassador was asked to wait for a month. I personally had a crack at how bloody useless you were when it finally broke, and frankly, I wish that I'd taken the opportunity back earlier in the year when the LKE doubly passed the expiration time limit on how long the LKE could leave their embassy in Unknown inactive, and had the Unknown/LKE treaty declared void.

Don't assist the invasion of another region to cover up the fact that the administration team of the LKE was utterly useless, don't claim that the coup is because Osiris has a stupid structure (it is barely different from that of either GCR ally of TNI) or because of defender influence, especially not when the leading occupying force (Gatesville) claims it is in Osiris to remove the influence of Biyah and friends- who are the counterbalance to any FRA/UDL influence in the region.

The reference to '80 hours' for the masking wait in the UIAF statement comes directly from the statement by Osiris dated to 23rd November, three days after the application for diplomatic status. Whatever personal role you had in delaying that statement being posted in our embassy merely inflamed the situation. Moreover, you say that it took a period of a month after they applied for the ambassador to get masked: in fact, the ambassador got masked on 6th December, a whole 17 days before you copied over the original Osiris statement and less than the month you claim it took for them to get masked. It was also therefore less time than the equivalent period the LKE ambassador spent waiting in Osiris.

Frankly, the issue itself is not the embassy closure, it is the pattern of disrespectful behaviour, which your conduct only contributed to. There is no cover up.


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Postby Frattastan II » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:03 pm

Summary:
The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:insulting and entirely disproportionate
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Postby Belschaft » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:21 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Summary:
The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:insulting and entirely disproportionate

Indeed. We might have expected this kind of pettiness from LKE - it is after all run by Onder - but I think we're all disappointed in TNI. I personally expected a lot better from them, as I made very clear to NES when we had a 'polite discussion' about the situation.
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Postby Eist » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:12 pm

It boggles my mind that anyone expected anything different. TNI are region destroyers, for goodness sakes. Something's wrong: you lot are either completely brainwashed, have the memory of a flea, or are having a laugh at how stupid everyone else is. I feel for most of you--to the detriment of the regions you temporarily control--it is the latter.
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Postby Mad Jack » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:16 am

The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:In the case of Osiris, the LKE and TNI are confronted with a region under heavy UDL influence

This is hilarious.

A region that has raided more than any GCR in the last year, where a UDL treaty was rejected outright, a region that stopped working with the UDL when the Ravania thing broke, a region that disqualified more voters who were against the Condemn UDL resolution than were in favour of it...

... is somehow under heavy UDL influence.

Pull the other one Onder/NES/Cere.
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