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Urruk-Mal
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New Defenders on the Block: Khanate of the Red Bear

Postby Urruk-Mal » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:52 pm

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Hello NS! We are the Khanate of the Red Bear, or KRB for short. We at the KRB are going to be a defender region, preferably a noticeable, prominent region. I am saying "going to" because we are VERY new and are looking for a way to get started. We hope to be up and operational soon. If you have any questions, contact me. Also, we are always welcoming of new recruits. Join us!
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:55 pm

Hey rock on! If you need any help setting up an army, feel free to contact me. :)
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Postby Urruk-Mal » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:56 pm

Unibot III wrote:Hey rock on! If you need any help setting up an army, feel free to contact me. :)

I would love help setting up an army. :)
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Defenders, by their nature, are less noticable, because they don't leave a sign they were there :P
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Postby Urruk-Mal » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:Defenders, by their nature, are less noticable, because they don't leave a sign they were there :P

Yeah, but it is rewarding :lol:
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Postby Frattastan II » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:47 pm

Invaders leave signs behind them, defenders do the same on the invaders' behinds. :P
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:55 pm

Urruk-Mal wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:Defenders, by their nature, are less noticable, because they don't leave a sign they were there :P

Yeah, but it is rewarding :lol:

No, its dull and all it gets is people hating on you, like the UDL. :P
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:27 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Urruk-Mal wrote:Yeah, but it is rewarding :lol:

No, its dull and all it gets is people hating on you, like the UDL. :P

Are you saying the UDL would hate on these defenders?

In that case, you are fantastically wrong. Business as usual.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:42 am

Mahaj wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:No, its dull and all it gets is people hating on you, like the UDL. :P

Are you saying the UDL would hate on these defenders?

In that case, you are fantastically wrong. Business as usual.

I think he was saying that like the UDL, they will end up with people hating on them. He just worded it badly. :P

In any case, Urruk-Mal, welcome to defenderdom!
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:10 am

Don't take too much advice from the UDL. I want better opponents than them :P
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:23 am

Cormac Stark wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Are you saying the UDL would hate on these defenders?

In that case, you are fantastically wrong. Business as usual.

I think he was saying that like the UDL, they will end up with people hating on them. He just worded it badly. :P

In any case, Urruk-Mal, welcome to defenderdom!

No, I worded it fine. Mahaj is just....well, Mahaj.
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Postby Daynor » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:56 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:I think he was saying that like the UDL, they will end up with people hating on them. He just worded it badly. :P

In any case, Urruk-Mal, welcome to defenderdom!

No, I worded it fine. Mahaj is just....well, Mahaj.

Nah I read it the other way too. Definitely can be taken both ways.

My advice to the new region would be not to worry to much about what the little people who like to stomp on everyone's sand castles says people think about you. You usually aren't going to be complimented by someone who is at the core a bully. And if you make the difference in just one region you have possibly made someone's day better somewhere in the world, which is one thousand times the victory they have in ruining the days of as many people as they can just for the sake of it.

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Postby Eist » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:28 am

Good luck with your region, Urruk-Mal. Don't listen too much to Cerian; everyone knows that he is just a defender wannabe in denial.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:35 pm

I think the only advice i can give is don't listen to all the other defenders :P Run the region the way you want to, not the way others "advise".
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Postby Karpathos » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:04 pm

Urruk-Mal wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Hey rock on! If you need any help setting up an army, feel free to contact me. :)

I would love help setting up an army. :)



This is a trap Urruk-Mal...you'll be subjegated and re-educated by being forced to read Uni's NS essays until you can recite them by heart in your sleep. Not a joke.
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Postby Gavin Novawk » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:16 pm

Stay clear of trying to influence GCRs, false demotions and the whole 'we're more moral than you' and you'll get on fine.
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