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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:01 pm

EASTERN EUROPE: CITY STATES BEHIND THE IRON CURTAIN

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A Peacezone for all ideologies!


INTRODUCTION

Hello Friends! Welcome to the Volunteer Press Office of Eastern Europe. Whether you are a new player looking for the ideal home, a curious gameplayer seeking drama and gossip or just curious traveller, here you could find all the news and happenings coming from Eastern Europe. Note keeping with Anarchist-Socialist tradition, this is a Volunteer Press Office, representing only my own personal perspective of the region. Under Anarchist-Socialism no one 'speaks' for the region. Every person has the freedom to speak for themselves.

OVERVIEW: A SHORT HISTORY OF EASTERN EUROPE

Eastern Europe is a region with a rich and complex history, and is the birthplace of both polka and the pioneers of international socialism. Our men are acknowledged the world over as superior chess players and our technology is paving the way for an electric car for the people.


Eastern Europe is an old and storied region, with an existence that could be traced as far back as 2003. It was once a successful roleplaying region, but fell into decline and forced to be a battlefield to be ravished between raiders and defenders. The current incarnation of Eastern Europe stemmed from a controversial civil war which spiralled out to be a worldwide conflict, with peace only brought about when our founder Novaya Stalina, after long struggle, repealed the "liberation" and successfully refounded the region for the natives in defiance of all raiders, reactionaries and their collaborationists.

Finally achieving peace and security, the survivors rebuilt Eastern Europe around two principles: 1) To create an Libertarian-Socialist Peacezone, creating a melting pot for all ideologies as nations to do as they please without coercion and, 2) To create a supportive haven that provides an enjoyable game for all players, whatever they want to do.

EASTERN EUROPE TODAY

An Ideological Melting Pot: An Libertarian Socialist Peacezone

Eastern Europe is inspired by real life theories of Libertarian Socialism and its application to Nationstates through Peacezone Theory. A key concept is the elimination of all fixed structures of power and authority, both overt (abilities given to one person over others) and convert (symbolism and perceptions of division). Forged from our previous conflicts and how it stemmed from factions desiring to obtain power, our implementation involves having a Founder and Delegate that is silent and inactive from all regional activities, except for securing the region from those who seek to subvert the system. By not speaking, by not voting, they do not influence. Even the WFE is unchanged, left as a brief welcome sign to the region and a memorial to the way things once were.

As a result, nations are at absolute liberty to think for themselves or associate with others - Libertarianism. The region will not be led by the imposition of force or rigid institutions, but created by natural societies and association led by those most social to be able to inspire free followers - Socialism.

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Eastern Europe is always welcoming of more members. Whether you want to experiment our unique political system, or find a place to being your role play, or you seek a platform for your own ideas, we would love to have you. If you a interested, or want to find out more, feel free to telegram my nation or ask questions here, be brave and move to Eastern Europe right away!
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:01 pm

This post is to simply show that Eastern Europe is not, contrary to oft repeated claims, someone's personal trophy and not (just) a puppet dump either.

As of 3rd February 2012:

The delegate Nikolaykraina has 5 endorsing nations. There are 4 more which have not endorsed. That means in total (including the delegate), there are 10 WA nations. I would also vouch, having personally recruited and interacted with them, there are at least another 4-5 genuine player, non WA nations.

Vote counts of recent WA resolutions

Marital Rape Justice Act: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 4-0 (100% For).
Foreign Copyright Recognition: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 4-0 (100% For).
Repeal "Liberate Nationalist Union": Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 4-0 (100% For).
Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 4-0 (100% For).
Freedom to Read and Learn: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 4-0 (100% For).
Child Firearm Safety Act:Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 2-0 (100% For).
Condemn Hippostania: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 2-0 (100% For).
Condemn Cynthia McKinney: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 0-2 (100% Against).
First Responder Protection Act: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 3-1 (75% For).
Currency Standards Act: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 1-0 (100% For).
Liberate South Pacific: Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 0-1 (100% Against).
World Assembly Statue Garden: I think it was 1-3 Against? I guess there would be no bust of Erasero for the world to see!
Repeal "Condemn The Black Riders": Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 0-3 (100% Against).
Repeal "Marital Rape Justice Act": Amongst Eastern Europe residents, voting is currently 3-0 (100% For).
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Postby Frattastan II » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:04 pm

I protest! This speak of 'freedom' and anarchism is a farce that contributes to the continuation of the odious tyranny of Stalina!
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Postby Kogvuron » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:19 pm

Frattastan II wrote:I protest! This speak of 'freedom' and anarchism is a farce that contributes to the continuation of the odious tyranny of Stalina!


Workers of the world unite! Overthrow the tyrants!
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How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul. " - William Ernest Henley

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The valiant never taste of death but once." - Julius Caesar

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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:23 pm

Frattastan II wrote:I protest! This speak of 'freedom' and anarchism is a farce that contributes to the continuation of the odious tyranny of Stalina!


Stalina was only saving us from ourselves. A tragic hero really, the indomitable effort, the tarnished image, and to constantly resist temptation to use that power once he had it. Only it took us so long to realise - when the day came it seemed like all the doors suddenly become open. I could step back and see a much larger world.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 pm

EASTERN EUROPE VOLUNTEER PAPER

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April Update


Salut, to all friends of the world! It has been a while since our last update. Here is a summary.

Activity restarted, map revived, offsite forums restored.

Activity drifted into a lull particularly after key Comrades Communist Eraser and Prague had a brief hiatus from NS. That said, there are still currently 7 WA nations in EE and a few more non-WA forum posting nations, so overall damage wasn't as bad as feared. In the meantime Albpamant has just experienced the joys of the 'Mother Knows State' easter egg, which prompted a little discussion on the glass ceiling. Others were just quietly updating their factbooks; perhaps the lesson to be learned is that many are quite happy to just do own things and only peek at the regional 'activities' occasionally, and this focus on 'region building' is only relevant to a small subset of players.

One thing that did attract the attention of everyone was the regional map! The map supposedly dates back to almost a decade, and there had been talk about reviving this rich part of our history. While there was consensus to continue using the old map, remembering and linking past Eastern Europe to the present, there was debate on whether current nations should be able to claim the territories of CTEd nations, or whether all empty land need claimed first. In the end, believing it is more important to adapt for current players we went with the former. Now that all issues had settled, claims a coming fast and our updated map is expected to be released soon!

Finally, it was felt that the region should have an offsite forum, if simply for thread organisation purposes not available on the RMB.
Keeping to our Anarchist Socialist (Peacezone) principles however, players have free choice on whether they wish to participate there without fear of being treated as second class members. There would be continious contact between the two as we recognise this equality is a fundamental right of all nations.

Statement on events in The South Pacific

Eastern Europe, like most of the world, has noticed the extraordinary developments by Comrade Milograd and his revolution in the The South Pacific. Milograd under one of his other guises, Chairman Map has been a resident of Eastern Europe in times past. Due to our links, and acknowledging the stated 'aims' of his revolution in good faith, we have drafted our opinion on how Anarchist Socialism (Peacezone) should apply to the current situation.

Our full statement is reproduced below.

STATEMENT FROM EASTERN EUROPE TO MILOGRAD'S THE SOUTH PACIFIC

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Revolution from an Anarchist Socialist (Peacezone) perspective


Eastern Europe, like most of the world, has noticed the extraordinary developments by Comrade Milograd and his revolution in the The South Pacific. Milograd under one of his other guises, Chairman Map has been a resident of Eastern Europe in times past. On a personal note I consider Milograd a friend, as I do consider the ones in 'Free South Pacific' my friends. This statement however, comes from the Anarchist Socialist (Peacezone) ideology Eastern Europe is built on, and how they apply to the current situation.

Like some, we have reservations about the influence system and the potential it provides for certain players to resist change. However we identify influence only as one part to the suite of game mechanics which provide some with more power to enforce their views than others. Influence, game mechanic that makes certain nations harder to kick, and therefore any government has to pay extra attention to them, is unfair. But other game-mechanics, such as allowing one person to set the WFE to promote their views, in a prominent area where alternatives have no access to is equally unfair.

Eastern Europe believes true freedom and equality for all nations could only be established under an Anarchist Socialist (Peacezone) system which separates *all* game-mechanics from government. We ask Comrade Milograd, if he truly wishes to create a system with no 'oligarchs', if his revolution is to be more than a protest with no plan, or worse - he and his supporters become the oligarchs, to adopt the Peacezone system.

Under Peacezone theory, whether the Free South Pacific government was good and acting for its people is irrelevant. It was inherently unfair that the government has game-mechanics to promote itself that any opposition can not. It is unfair they can set the WFE, make embassies, ban, eject or suppress. A government must prove its legitimacy only using the same resources available to all others.

This forms the crux of the Anarchist Socialist Peacezone system: Anarchist as everyone has the freedom to follow or create their own view; Socialist because the legitimacy can't be forced and would solely be determined by one's ability to 'socialise', since no one has game mechanic powers. It would very likely be the case that FSP government would be most supported, but this time it would be under the correct system

It is also our view that should the Peacezone system be adopted, criticisms that Milograd has been doing no governing since taking the delegacy would be unfounded. In a Peacezone, a silent delegate is the highest distinction of character. The delegate's only role to prevent in-game powers from falling to *any* government. Milograd is not a government, only a guardian to ensure equality for all participants who want to be involved in the politics of government.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:11 pm

Bump.

Eastern now has 76 nations. Despite common perceptions that it's a puppet dump (and it does have a few puppets.. especially the Stalin parody nations), it also has 8 WA nations inside the region, which isn't that far off other regions of similar population. Only 3 of them are endorsing the delegate though, but it's fine since Eastern Europe is a Peacezone and the delegate is a ceremonial position.

As a measure of activity 5 of them in the last WA Resolution "Ombudsmen Act" 3 For 2 Against. That said, Eastern Europe also has quite a few active non WA nations. Many thanks to them as well, we consider you just as important as giving activity and conversation to the region. The OP might need to be updated though, as that RP idea never got off the ground.

Speaking of Peacezones, at least that is an internally consistent and implementable ideology than some of the ones being posted lately. :P

On Osiris: Eastern Europe is a minor region with no foreign capability so it doesn't matter what we think, but basically it's the same statement we had for TSP. An Anarchist Socialist Peacezone system which separates the corrupting influences of all game-mechanics from government is the only utopian system.

Other: I recognise the irony that a region with Stalin in its flag is a leading force in Anarchist Socialism and Peacezones. NS!=RL though. I might write an article about it soon.
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Postby Agorya » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:01 pm

The socialists claim of freedom, but they don't know what freedom is.

Is freedom obeying "who yells the loudest" in a state of perpetual fear?

Is freedom having everything you make yourself be taken from you and given to those that don't deserve it?

Is freedom having a whole bunch of hobos in rags bunk in your bed while you sleep in the bathroom?

Haha, no. But I'll be watching you pigs.

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Postby Communist Eraser » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:53 pm

Agorya wrote:The socialists claim of freedom, but they don't know what freedom is.

Is freedom obeying "who yells the loudest" in a state of perpetual fear?

Is freedom having everything you make yourself be taken from you and given to those that don't deserve it?

Is freedom having a whole bunch of hobos in rags bunk in your bed while you sleep in the bathroom?

Haha, no. But I'll be watching you pigs.

~Jack Smith, middle class businessman and proponent of Voluntaryism, currently elected as C.E.O of National Interests, Inc.


You are confusing RP and RL anarchist socialism (the first I'm not really involved, the second is beyond my scope because RL is much more complex than NS). Eastern Europe is about adopting anarchist socialist ideas and running an experiment within the (simple) confines of the game.

Have a non exec delegate, have a non intervening founder, and you have removed most forms of possible political oppression in NS. NS deftly avoids the economic question, the main issue to be solved in RL, since unlike RL we don't have to 'work' in NS.

This makes implementing anarchist socialism so much easier.
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Postby Agorya » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:28 pm

Communist Eraser wrote:
Agorya wrote:The socialists claim of freedom, but they don't know what freedom is.

Is freedom obeying "who yells the loudest" in a state of perpetual fear?

Is freedom having everything you make yourself be taken from you and given to those that don't deserve it?

Is freedom having a whole bunch of hobos in rags bunk in your bed while you sleep in the bathroom?

Haha, no. But I'll be watching you pigs.

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untaryism, currently elected as C.E.O of National Interests, Inc.




You are confusing RP and RL anarchist socialism (the first I'm not really involved, the second is beyond my scope because RL is much more complex than NS). Eastern Europe is about adopting anarchist socialist ideas and running an experiment within the (simple) confines of the game.

Have a non exec delegate, have a non intervening founder, and you have removed most forms of possible political oppression in NS. NS deftly avoids the economic question, the main issue to be solved in RL, since unlike RL we don't have to 'work' in NS.

This makes implementing anarchist socialism so much easier.


I was reactively replying in character. Also, one persons perception of socialism differs from anothers! Still it'll be an interesting experiment to watch.
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Postby Alyekra » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:30 am

What is Stalin doing on the flag of an Anarchist Socialist Peacezone? Isn't he a bad example of all three of those?
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:09 am

Alyekra wrote:What is Stalin doing on the flag of an Anarchist Socialist Peacezone? Isn't he a bad example of all three of those?


I was eventually planning to write proper article soon or later, but provide an answer

The simplest response to that is:

Stalin(a) in Nationstates *is* an Anarchist Socialist


To understand this, it's important to distinguish between Stalin in Real Life, and the Novaya Stalina character in Nationstates. There are obvious similarities (I'm sure Nationstates Stalin(a) took some traits from Real Life Stalin), but also key differences.

Both faced existential threats to their region from foreign aggression and reactionaries from within. The USSR had Nazi Germany. NS Eastern Europe had raiders and oligarchs who shut down anyone trying to revive the region, even though the status quo as a founderless region meant it was being messed around by raiders and the region was a slow decline anyway. Though this in no way implies as direct comparison.

To meet and defeat such threats, both employed brutal methods that were essential to saving their region, but a great cost and controversial to this day. I don't need to say much about Real Life Stalin crimes, but I'm also from the school of thought that despite it all, things he did saved the country in WW2. Nationstates Stalin(a) forced a refounding, which was needed to the long term security and survival of the region, despite parts of the region (and later significant parts of the international community) being deeply opposed to it.

Both persons also had personalities that are paranoid and manipulative.

However the main difference is that Real Life Stalin continued to be deeply involved and terrorised the region after the period of crisis was over. Nationstates Stalin(a) agreed to take passive role in the game, and later on took up Anarchist Socialism (Peacezones) as the way forward to the region.

The current flag is a combination of the red and black flag of Anarcho Syndicalism and acknowledging Stalin(a)'s key role in the history of the region.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:23 am

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COMMUNIST ERASER - DELEGATE OF EASTERN EUROPE

Last major Comrade Communist Eraser, formerly Warzone Codger has assumed delegacy of Eastern Europe with 10 endorsements. This comes off a process of revolutionary mobilisation where there are now 12 WA nations, and several more active non WA nations, which has rekindled activity in our region. Communist Eraser was considered instrumental in lifting Eastern Europe from a civil war backwater, plagued by internal oligarchs and both raider imperialism and defender overreach, to the successful native sovereign Peacezone it is today.

Despite the occasion, many challenges lies ahead. The People's Vanguard and Founder Stalina has not yet gave any sign of approval, or as last time, deemed it as an unauthorised uprising, with the perpetrators (including Eraser) removed and sent for re-education. Eraser has toiled selflessly glorifying Stalina image in the 220 days since, but it remains to seen if he is considered fully rehabilitated.

On the ideological front, there are questions too at how to reconcile Peacezone Theory, which eschew all forms of institutional authority, to someone so active and attention seeking as Communist Eraser. A statement would be prepared in short time.

Plenty on intrigue to come.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:30 pm

EASTERN EUROPE VOLUNTEER PAPER

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Role of Delegates in a Peacezone

Author: Communist Eraser

Greetings from Eastern Europe: An Anarchist Socialist Peacezone! Five days has passed since I was elected as Delegate of Eastern Europe. I am thankful for their activity and support of my fellow nation mates, their tolerance for my quirks and willingness to follow this social experiment. I also extend my gratitude to the old pioneers and revolutionaries, especially our founder Novaya Stalina, the previous delegate Nikolaykraina, and comrade Czech mate who without their heroics in securing our region's sovereignty, and open mindedness to embrace new ideas, none of this would ever be possible. Eastern Europe today is a region with over 80 nations, 14 WAs and full of activity, and despite the reactionary ravings that continue to be made as close as yesterday, your actions had been wholly vindicated.

Today I hope to spark a discussion on the role of delegates in a Peacezone, and the responsibilities for those in this position to be mindful of to avoid slipping towards oligarchy. Issues discussed include are delegate activity, WA voting policy as well some brief notes on founders. Personally, it also a way to affirm my commitment to Peacezone Theory, and counter the temptations to authoritarianism that one only realises when you are acting in the delegate position.

Delegate activity

Original Peacezone theory, developed by Crushing Our Enemies asserts that Delegates should not even exist at all, and that their presence alone introduces institutional authority; making a Peacezone impossible to achieve without game mechanic changes. Later theorists such were more lenient, believing player made Peacezones are possible if the delegate was silent and inactive, a place holder nullifying the position. The election of Communist Eraser, a clearly active nation, however has challenged this assumption and argues that an active delegate is not contradictory to being a Peacezone.

The basic principle of Peacezones is the elimination of all forms of authority that impede on the freedom of nations/players to make their own decisions. The possibility that the delegate might kick, ban, suppress obviously affects this. Changing the WFE to elevate one's opinion over others affects this. The delegate voting a certain way in WA resolutions might also affect this. However does the mere presence of having a delegate that talks, without anything else, prevent other nations from doing anything they want to do? Not necessarily, and remember the delegate as a member of the region entitled to their own opinion too.

Game mechanics lists the delegate's name prominently on the top of the region page and shows they got the most endorsements in the region. This does not affect your ability to post and your ability to decide whether other people's posts, including the delegate's is correct. It does not your ability to convince others what is say is more correct. Any implied "authority" that the delegate's posts has is in the players' own heads, and nothing stops you from challenging it. It should also be said in the use of foundered regions with non-executive delegacies - the ideal setup for a Peacezone, there is also nothing that prevents you from taking the delegacy if you could convince others - or completely ignoring it to start your own alternative group within the region.

WA voting policy

Traditional Peacezone theory sees the delegate as a superfluous position, and it follows naturally to that is if the delegate has to exist due to game mechanics, it should not vote at all to avoid any imposition of authority at all through bonus delegate votes. This is certainly a valid perspective, and a nation seeing "Your delegate has voted FOR/AGAINST this resolution' does influence the nation's own voting decisions.

An alternative view though is to consider Peacezones as part of a global gamewide movement to emancipate the votes of individual nations from delegate influence. Under this view, Peacezone delegates have an obligation to use their bonus votes to ensure that it is the majority opinion of individual nations that is successful, not skewed by a few large delegates. There had been cases in the past where the majority opinion of nations was suppressed by abuse of delegate authority of a few large regions, and I believe Peacezone delegates, including myself in Eastern Europe, must make a stand, no matter how limited, against that.

Brief thoughts on Founders' rights

It is too common to become too involved in ideological conversations of Peacezone theory, and forget it is just a method of governance, not a complete way of life. For UCRs, founders have the right to decide what the region is about, whether it is cars or ponies or something else, while Peacezone theory simply a system of governance to administer it. Even in a Peacezone, founders have the right to tell what is the region is about in the WFE, and the ability to remove any nation who does not fit in with the overall theme. Eastern Europe has some traditional Eastern European flairs, as well as some layman/generic "red" motifs.

Of course, some founders might choose to forgo that right completely and leave the theme to be decide within the Peacezone system, that is completely acceptable. The issue in founderless regions and GCRs are murkier, and though the region name might give some suggestions, we urge delegates to err on the side of caution.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:49 pm

Weekend Peacezone musings.

Peacezone theory has an emphasis on restricting things, most prominently foregoing any use of World Factbook Entry, under the belief it would infringe and influence the free thinking of individual nations. The most pure example of this is the original Peacezone experiment in Democratia which simply had its WFE as this:

Democratia is a Peacezone! The WA Delegate holds no power whatsoever and nations cannot be ejected.

The World Factbook Entry will not be changed and posts will not be suppressed.
Movement in and out of the region is unrestricted, as no password can be imposed.


That WFE is static, unchangeable. Any promotion of a government, forum or map etc has to stated on the regional message board or passed through telegram. The reasoning is that is creates a completely level playing ground for any competing government, forum, maps etc so success would only be determined by the persuasion of nations, whether than fiat. This system also allows for multiple governments etc to co-exist if nations desire it as there is no determination of which one is official vs unofficial.

That said, it could be argued that the desired outcome could be achieved more effectively if the WFE promoted all ideas equally, rather than denying any exposure at all. This is the approach taken by Eastern Europe where a link to the forums is provide and leads to this page:

Regional Forums

As an Anarchist Socialist Peacezone, Eastern Europe allows for multiple regional forums within the region. The region does not endorse any particular forum as the official forum, and players are free to choose whichever one most suits their tastes, or to start their own.

All known forums are listed below. If you like to add yours to the list, please send a telegram to this nation with the name and link to the forum.


The important distinction that while Peacezone theory acts against undue imposition of a particular view, it need not prevent any views be promoted. It is better for awareness that all views be promoted.
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Postby Communist Eraser » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:58 pm

Earlier this week marked the 2nd year anniversary of the refounding of Eastern Europe, the day when the active native patriots reclaimed the sovereignty of their region of against raider imperialism and defender betrayal.

A comprehensive statement, along with some planned major announcements will be made in course. This statement however is to provide a quick primer on Peacezone Theory, understanding many people don't know what it is and don't wish to read 1000s of words tracing its origins and development. It would also provide relevant context when it's referred to in other posts.

Peacezone Theory Primer

Peacezone Theory seeks the elimination of all forms of institutional authority, enabling individual nations/players to exercise their free will on equal ground without undue influence. Limitation of the delegate's role is a key aspect of Peacezone Theory.

Peacezones are identified by the following features.

- Delegates do not exercise any of their executive powers. No kicks, bans or suppression. A concession is made for defending the Peacezone system in the case of founderless regions, though the best option is to have a founder and an non-executive delegate to restrict all these options.

- The WFE is to be either empty and unchanged, or to promote all options equally. Central to Peacezone Theory is that all nations are given a level playing ground. Nothing is deemed default and everything must continually work to earn the respect and acceptance from other nations. This especially applies to offsite forum (governments) and the delegate must either participate in all of them, or none at all. Individual nations decide for themselves which forum to associate themselves them, or both, or none, without any authority implying any official opinion.

- Delegates either not vote at all, or vote to support the worldwide majority vote among individual nations. Both options are interpretations to the idea of eliminating institutional delegate authority. The first option is the passive approach, the delegate simply acting as if they don't exist by not voting. The second option is an activist approach, where the delegate uses their institutional authority of bonus votes to neutralise other delegates, so the outcome follows one as if the entire game has no delegates.

- The main point of contention is whether and how much delegates are allowed to be active in their regions. Founders should be silent and on a neutral account only for administrative purposes, while the player participates through another nations. Delegates are harder because unlike founders as there is no easily avoidable option. A certain amount of activity is required for someone to ever be elected delegate, and it needs to someone who would follow other Peacezone principles. The main problem is that any opinion one makes holds more more weight when made as the delegate, even when the player does not intend to. The delegate must constantly emphasise their views are equal to any other nations.
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Postby Kraszkhyia » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:49 pm

This truly is a model for how multinational organizations should act, I wonder though, what you think about how an elected delegate should behave once taking office. For example, if say Kraszkhyia became delegate, do you believe I or any other nation elected should have to alter themselves for the position to set a particular example?
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Postby Arstrotzka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:03 am

I say we have no delegate! Tear down the oppressors! Down with the evil Putinist scum who supports world assembly laws that damage industry!

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Postby Crazy girl » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:21 am

This entire forum is ooc, so no need for an ooc tag. This is not a roleplay forum.

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Crazy girl wrote:This entire forum is ooc, so no need for an ooc tag. This is not a roleplay forum.


Welp fuck me, I feel like an idiot.

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Postby Feux » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:48 pm

This thread is awesome. :P
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Postby Communist Eraser » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:54 am

Kraszkhyia wrote:This truly is a model for how multinational organizations should act, I wonder though, what you think about how an elected delegate should behave once taking office. For example, if say Kraszkhyia became delegate, do you believe I or any other nation elected should have to alter themselves for the position to set a particular example?


Much of Peacezone theory concerns the actions a delegate should or should not take. The aim is to create conditions that allows individual to pursue whatever they like without judgement or interference. Being a Peacezone delegate is a burden and a sacrifice - your every behaviour is governed, as you say, to set an example so *others* can be free.

Arstrotzka: Thanks. I'm just glad there's someone else in the region who has at least seen this thread!

Feux: Lazarus is a fitting candidate for Peacezone revolution don't you think? :hug: Ok actually, do I meet Laz's embassy requirements now?

This thread has one of the highest view to post ratios. Now we are wrecking it tsk tsk. I actually have a bunch of announcements to make: 2nd year anniversary, switch from Stalin to the current flag, change to "Libertarian Socialist Peacestate", embassy policy for Peacezones, but I feel they should all go in one mega update, and I need the time.
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Feux: Lazarus is a fitting candidate for Peacezone revolution don't you think? Ok actually, do I meet Laz's embassy requirements now?


Yes, you do. :P
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:15 pm

EASTERN EUROPE VOLUNTEER PAPER

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Two years of a sovereign Eastern Europe

Author: Communist Eraser - Under Peacezone Theory, all members can speak on behalf of the region. It's up to the audience to decide how much trust to place on them and determine how much of the region the member actually represents.

Remembering our past. Lessons unforgotten

The Pleasure Explosion of Eastern Europe wrote:Foreign powers wanted to liberate Eastern Europe. In the end, it was Eastern Europe that liberated itself from the foreign powers. (Source)


Greetings from Eastern Europe: Forever against Imperalism and protector of Libertarian Socialist Peacezone ideals! Earlier this month marked the 2nd year anniversary of the refounding of Eastern Europe, the day when the active native patriots reclaimed the sovereignty of their region of against raider imperialism and defender betrayal. The latter was a point that was emphasised through all my posts, because while there's no point admonishing raiders who had decided to be destructive, defenders hold themselves to a higher standard. Marxingrad made the point recently in his magnificent essay Defenders: The True Imperialists, which I shared our own experiences. In short, defenders tend to preserve the status quo no matter how stagnant, and are too distrustful of newcomers, decrying from as 'foreign sleepers' and 'false natives', and killing any activity despite they being the ones who actually show interest in building the region.

The reclaiming of Eastern Europe was an extraordinary story for the persistence of true native patriots, and how they overcome oligarchs and defender collaborationists who placed a slanderous 'liberation' to keep them under oppression, whom made every attempt to thwart the natives' desire for refounding to gain independence and sovereignty. The proactive action of the natives when they originally sought to refound and their 9 months of unceasing commitment to infiltrate, repeal the unjust liberation and gather influence to decisively refound when all seemed lost are events that should be honoured by all free people who stand against tyranny.

Eastern Europe now has 20 endos, which is greater than anytime since 2009, the earliest the Internet Archive cached the region. In the last WA vote, 17 people voted (7 For - 12 Against in Condemn TNI). The RMB is also more active than at any point in the past, with funny stories, pointed discussion both NS and RL driving us upward. The great, active region seen today is what they sought to prevent. Forcible refounds are justifiable when the ones behind it are the offering the better option for the region.

It's another beautiful day in Eastern Europe! New Ideology, new flag and unveiling the curtain, new embassy policy

It is not the desire for Eastern Europe to only be remembered for its past. Such as the real life Eastern Europe is famous for pioneering revolutionary thought, our region has wholehearted embraced Peacezone Theory, our solution to the problems of institutional oligarchy and oppression to liberty present across Nationstates. Our Peacezone Primer succinctly covers the main point of the ideology, though we have made a new changes in presentation in our region that could use some explanation.

New Flag

Eastern Europe recently adopted a new flag for the region, the one seen above. This flag emphasises the diversity and apolitical neutrality of our region that is enshined by Peacezone Theory by adopting the traditional matryoshka doll as our main symbol, replacing Stalin. We understand Stalin is a controversial character and despite our explanation that it honours the Nationstates In-Game character of our founder Novaya Stalina, who adopts some, but not all of Real Life Stalin traits (most notably, his willingness to step aside once the region was secured.), we feel it's best for the promotion of our region to have a flag less likely to be misinterpreted.

The most important point to emphasise is that Eastern Europe respects the variety of nations and cultures within its regional borders. Eastern Europe has a 1000 years history, a mosaic from folklore, to Tsars and warlords, to revolutionaries and the modern democracies of varying levels it has today. Eastern Europe the region, embraces all of these, and welcomes any nation to wants to join us.

"Libertarian Socialist" Peacezone Theory

The formal name for Peacezone Theory was changed to "Libertarian Socialist Peacezone Theory" from the earlier "Anarchist Socialist Peacezone Theory". This is partly a branding exercise as 'Libertarian' emphasises the freedom offered to all people, while 'Anarchist' has unfortunate connotations, but also a process of better political understanding. Peacezone Theory was developed first as a NS Gameplay ideology, rather than being derived from a political system in real life. While it is that true that Peacezone Theory aims to remove all forms institutional authority and empower the freedom of individual nations, it is not certain whether it seeks to eliminate the state altogether.

Traditional Peacezone theory of the Democratia form might have anarchist, as there one could say there is no 'state' if you removed the delegate position all together and the WFE is blank and unchangeable. Eastern Europe however has adopted policies, such as its WFE policy, and now embassy policy where its purpose was to give all nations institutional delegate authority, rather than denying everyone of it. The argument is that giving power to all nations is a better form of equality than denying all, but it implicitly endorses the existence of the state. Therefore it was more accurate to change the classification, with Eastern Europe as a Peacestate.

Unveiling the curtain - Eastern Europe opens relations with the world

Eastern Europe will now send and accept all embassy request as long as there is one WA member who agrees.

Our current embassies are as follows:

Hippy Haven - Supported by Communist Eraser & Kingdom of Nikolajopolis
CCCP - Supported by Jorji Cobrastan
Next Generation Alliance - Supported by Kraszkhyia & Kingdom of Nikolajopolis
Western Europe - Supported by Novaya Stalina & Czech Mate
Free Bobby Fischer - Supported by Czech Mate

Since our refounding, Eastern Europe has kept a isolationist foreign and embassy policy. Initially it was a simple desire to be left alone after all the struggles with foreign influencers ruining our region; later on while foreign relations were allowed, our interpretation of Peacezone Theory was that establishing in-game embassies was exercising a form of delegate institutional authority which was against our principles.

Following the WFE policy change which saw the option of providing powers to all as an acceptable response within Peacezone Theory, it was felt the same could also apply to embassy policy. All WA nations now has the right to authorise sending or accepting an embassy request, just like if they were the delegate. The only difference is the 'in game noted' delegate is pressing the buttons. The WA qualification is there because one has to be a WA member to be delegate, so even if everyone is a delegate, they still need to be a WA member first.

It is acknowledged there might be conflicts where Eastern Europe accepts an embassy because one member asks for it, even though others disagree. It is better however, that the region works together to sort out any differences arising from giving authority to all, rather than succumbing to giving some and denying others, whether based on "majority vote" or any other system.
EASTERN EUROPE: The MELTING POT OF IDEOLOGIES
An Libertarian Socialist Peacezone. Four Principles of Peacezone Theory


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