The Rejected Times

[Unibot III]

I suppose if she is imperialist, I would have to be as well then...

You were imperialist at the very least for years. You said so yourself once... *looks through his Euro PMs*

[Anumia]

Do show me this PM. You can ask Onder et al; I was a thorn in the side of imperialists in TNI/LKE for many years before deciding to focus more on the Republic.

[Whiskum]

Do show me this PM. You can ask Onder et al; I was a thorn in the side of imperialists in TNI/LKE for many years before deciding to focus more on the Republic.

To a degree it depends what is meant by the term 'imperialist': is an imperialist someone who is affiliated to an imperialist region, regardless of their personal views, or alternatively is it someone who believes that a given region should adopt (or continue to pursue) an imperialist approach?

You were never temperamentally an imperialist and after joining the LKE initially retained connections among some defenders, hence why you had to resign as LKE Defence Minister in December 2006 when we declared a war on the FRA and the rump of the RLA over their opposition to our invasion of Iraq.

Perhaps more significantly still, you were a staunch opponent in the LKE and TNI (not to mention elsewhere) of the Congress of Sovereigns (LKE, TNI, GB&I, EoE) in 2006-07 and the Sovereigns Regions Alliance Treaty Organisation (which carried over TNI and GB&I, in addition to a new set of regions) in 2008-09, two of the main imperialist projects of those periods, although that was mainly because you inherent disagreed with taking a multilateral approach.

However, at the same time, you were the LKE Prime Minister and then Crown Prince in late 2007, so while you were far from a clear-cut imperialist in your personal inclinations, imperialism is an approach to foreign and regional affairs, and you were a major figure in regions taking that approach.

On the other hand, with the exception of interludes in 2010 where you were TNI's head of government and LKE Crown Prince, since 2008-09 you have been rather peripheral to the politics of the LKE and TNI, with your political activity in Europeia being far more significant. Europeia is an independent region, but is not an imperialist one, and you have not done anything there to change that direction or to advocate that it should become imperialist.

So, if by imperialist, we mean someone who has imperialist views, you were never an imperialist. If we mean, someone who was affiliated to and worked on behalf of imperialist regions (in this case as a senior official), then you were an imperialist in the past, but your involvement in Europeia is far more significant as an indicator of your position today and that is, as discussed, not imperialist. Given this reference to Rachel Anumia was about 'imperialist lineage', presumably referring to her history of affiliations, if Rachel's lineage is deemed imperialist then yours certainly is, but Rachel's should not be.

That thought crossed my mind too.

Rachel has never been materially involved in the LKE or TNI, beyond holding basic citizenship as an inactive member but no more in the latter.

She has been Monarch of Empires of Earth, but after the Congress of Sovereigns era. Far more important in her lineage have been her periods leading Europeia and subsequently Balder. No one whose only main regions are Europeia and/or Balder identifies as imperialist to my knowledge (although from my complete and mere outsider's perspective Balder has become imperialist in its approach since the institution of ISRA, after Rachel ceased to be the head of state) - you might argue Rachel has expressed views akin to those of an imperialist, but she cannot be painted as forming part of any imperialist lineage.

It's pretty crappy really. I spent so much time in Europeia and Balder, more than I have in any other region by far and I've written so many works on independence as well. It's pretty low to call me things I'm not. If I was an imperialist, I'd be proud to be one, but when I'm not one it's just disrespectful. Furthermore, I've had two NS children become delegate of TNP. Mcmasteronia and Jamie. So does that make them "imperialist lineage" too?

Overall, The Rejected Times coverage of TNPs election has been nothing short of shameful and embarrassing. This sort of thing reminds me of why it makes it so easy to dislike defenders. I don't think it's fair and it gives TRR a bad name.

Alas, the FRA and UDL have a tendency to use the terms' 'imperialist' and for that matter 'raider' to label anyone who has a different view to them.

Many of the worst tendencies of these organisations, and many more negative attributes after that, can be found manifested in The Rejected Times.

It's more that you're imperialist aligned (I also don't buy that Balder has only been imperialist from very recently, clearly there was an imperialist bent going back to before Rach was delegate),

What is 'imperialist aligned'? Sharing opinions on world affairs with imperialists? Being part of a region that is allied to a prominent imperialist region?

What is an 'imperialist bent'? Having an alliance with TNI (like TSP today, or like TWP and TNP have with Albion)? Evidently not. Having a couple of imperialists (NES and Cerebella) in the Government alongside many people without anything that could be remotely described as imperialist background? Falconias was even in the Cabinet for a period when Rachel was Delegate. This is clearly insufficient to categorise a region as specifically imperialist.

Clearly, Balder has historically been an independent region, much like Europeia: one that rejects the raider/defender divide and forms a foreign policy in its own interests. All imperialist regions are also independent regions, essentially 'imperialist' is fundamentally a sub-category, but not all independent regions are imperialist regions. Prior to recent developments, in particular the institution of ISRA, it is something of a stretch to classify it as distinctly imperialist.

[Mallorea and Riva]

A rumor suggests imperialist lineage from the likes of North East Somerset or Rachel Anumia could make an appearance,

Starting a rumor yourself so that you can report on it is pretty shoddy journalism.

Crushing our Enemies, the well-spoken former Black Hawks commander as Communications Minister,

COE has never held the rank of commander in The Black Hawks. He is a General and Chief Military Advisor, that rank and position is current.

[Nierr]

A rumor suggests imperialist lineage from the likes of North East Somerset or Rachel Anumia could make an appearance,

Starting a rumor yourself so that you can report on it is pretty shoddy journalism.

Durk claims he started it.

[Solorni]

The reason why it annoys me too is because it was totally unnecessary. It's simply Unibot being unable to control himself yet again. Is it possible to write a story without including jabs at people? Or is that minor level of self-control too difficult?

Or maybe it's simply ignorance. Which seems to be in high supply in the defender world.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Starting a rumor yourself so that you can report on it is pretty shoddy journalism.

Durk claims he started it.

They'd be better off claiming they started the rumor rather than admitting they got Durked

[Nierr]

The reason why it annoys me too is because it was totally unnecessary. It's simply Unibot being unable to control himself yet again. Is it possible to write a story without including jabs at people? Or is that minor level of self-control too difficult?

Or maybe it's simply ignorance. Which seems to be in high supply in the defender world.

The bold coupled with the italics amuses me.

[SFBA Campinia]

The reason why it annoys me too is because it was totally unnecessary. It's simply Unibot being unable to control himself yet again. Is it possible to write a story without including jabs at people? Or is that minor level of self-control too difficult?

Or maybe it's simply ignorance. Which seems to be in high supply in the defender world.

The bold coupled with the italics amuses me.

I don't even notice it anymore.

[Tlik]

Since when am I imperialist lineage? xD

This is yet another poor article from the TRR times.

I thought the Anumia family was traditionally quite imperialist? Or is that wrong? This family thing confuses me. Apparently I'm spawn of Tim, so God help him when he realises that he's going to need to start saving for uni debt...

[Solorni]

I left the Anumia family anyway though

I'm freee sort of....

[Tlik]

I left the Anumia family anyway though

I'm freee sort of....

Fair enough. And I seem to remember Anumia himself turned defender for a while? Is that still a thing?

[Unibot III]

The bold coupled with the italics amuses me.

I don't even notice it anymore.

Yeah.

[Alhanbe]

Come to think of it, how does one define imperialism and an imperialist at that, in the ns context?

[Venico]

Come to think of it, how does one define imperialism and an imperialist at that, in the ns context?

Imperialism (in an NS context) is the use of diplomacy, military, and other various means to spread your region's (or side's) sphere of influence. An Imperialist is one who perpetrates this and believes in this is the best course of action in almost any situation.

[Guy]

The reason why it annoys me too is because it was totally unnecessary. It's simply Unibot being unable to control himself yet again. Is it possible to write a story without including jabs at people? Or is that minor level of self-control too difficult?

Or maybe it's simply ignorance. Which seems to be in high supply in the defender world.

Takes offence at personal jabs, makes a jab at a whole group of people

[Common-Sense Politics]

I know of no player in the game more capable than r3n when he has time on his hands. TNP is lucky to have him.

[Charles Cerebella]

Come to think of it, how does one define imperialism and an imperialist at that, in the ns context?

I wrote a couple of essays on it last year:

Imperialism in Nationstates: An Essay

Imperialism in NS Continued

I've been considering writing a new one for some time but have a lot of other things that are higher up my to do list.

[Nierr]

Cere is probably the preeminent authority on imperialism in ns. Both those articles are very good.

[Anumia]

Since when am I imperialist lineage? xD

This is yet another poor article from the TRR times.

I thought the Anumia family was traditionally quite imperialist? Or is that wrong? This family thing confuses me. Apparently I'm spawn of Tim, so God help him when he realises that he's going to need to start saving for uni debt...

The family has no specific leanings on anything, at all, really. There are defenders, raiders, imperialists, neutrals, etc.

I left the Anumia family anyway though

I'm freee sort of....

Fair enough. And I seem to remember Anumia himself turned defender for a while? Is that still a thing?

I grew up as a defender.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

Crushing our Enemies, the well-spoken former Black Hawks commander as Communications Minister,

COE has never held the rank of commander in The Black Hawks. He is a General and Chief Military Advisor, that rank and position is current.

This is actually a case where Unibot has accidentally stumbled onto the truth. I was indeed a Commander once, when I was Head of Military in...I want to say 2009. But I rescinded that rank when I left active raiding service and returned to General. However, my current rank and position in TBH would probably be more relevant.

Even more relevant would be my service in TNP, including 10 months as Speaker of the RA, a brief stint as Chief Justice, and author of multiple successful bills. But details like that might get in the way of Unibots message the feeder politics is all about military gameplay. I'm the goddamn Minister of Communications. What does my experience as a raider have to do with that?

EDIT: Duality is a little tricky for me. I *do* consider my TNP and TBH personas to be entirely separate, so consider this post to be OOC. I considered making a "who me? I've never done any of that," post, but I always found those to be a little annoying. Nonetheless, I resent Unibot's conflation of my two personas in this article, and respectfully request that in the future, when referring to me as a TNPer, he not make reference to my other persona's TBH experience.

EDIT2: And yes, I realize both personas have the same name. I created my account on the TNP forum before I committed to duality.

[Unibot III]

COE has never held the rank of commander in The Black Hawks. He is a General and Chief Military Advisor, that rank and position is current.

This is actually a case where Unibot has accidentally stumbled onto the truth. I was indeed a Commander once, when I was Head of Military in...I want to say 2009. But I rescinded that rank when I left active raiding service and returned to General. However, my current rank and position in TBH would probably be more relevant.

Even more relevant would be my service in TNP, including 10 months as Speaker of the RA, a brief stint as Chief Justice, and author of multiple successful bills. But details like that might get in the way of Unibots message the feeder politics is all about military gameplay. I'm the goddamn Minister of Communications. What does my experience as a raider have to do with that?

EDIT: Duality is a little tricky for me. I *do* consider my TNP and TBH personas to be entirely separate, so consider this post to be OOC. I considered making a "who me? I've never done any of that," post, but I always found those to be a little annoying. Nonetheless, I resent Unibot's conflation of my two personas in this article, and respectfully request that in the future, when referring to me as a TNPer, he not make reference to my other persona's TBH experience.

EDIT2: And yes, I realize both personas have the same name. I created my account on the TNP forum before I committed to duality.

Um, no. The paper will not recognize duality. That's just asking for trouble as far as a media organization is concerned. Duality has been used for years by coupers to try to cover up the truth of events and escape personal responsibility for their actions.

[Anumia]

I'm still awaiting that PM

[The Rejected Times]

Thread closed

[Glen-Rhodes]

What's the surprise announcement?