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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:28 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:Of all things to react over, Blaat.

Really?


Yes :roll:
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:17 am

Making an issue out of something so incredibly trivial is proof that you have no good arguement.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:36 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:Making an issue out of something so incredibly trivial is proof that you have no good arguement.


:palm: Hence the rolling eyes.
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Postby Solm » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:44 pm

On an early saturday morning, some strange green-tight wearing men and ladies ran through a forest and sent out a volley of arrows and some-odd regions, reclaiming the precious gold that was stolen from them.
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:34 pm

As a reminder, Movie Night begins at 8 PM in #udl on Espernet (IRC). We're watching Peter Pan. :P
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:02 pm

As a reminder, Movie Night began at 8 PM in #udl on Espernet(IRC). We've watched Peter Pan. :D
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:22 pm

"Movie nights" have minimal relevance to gameplay. Bumping this thread solely to advertise them is not really appropriate - it's spammy enough already.

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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:00 pm

Sedgistan wrote:"Movie nights" have minimal relevance to gameplay. Bumping this thread solely to advertise them is not really appropriate - it's spammy enough already.

Yet gameplay is where we can put Organization information and updates... so I can't use this organization's thread to promote its own event?

Does that mean that if my roleplaying region has an embassy thread in this forum, I can't post an update because its not relevant to gameplay?
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:12 pm

Read my post - specifically the bit about bumping the thread solely to advertise a non-gameplay event. If a roleplay region posted in their recruiting thread solely to advertise a new RP thread they had going, that would not be permitted. Similarly, posting solely to advertise a "wedding" going on within a gameplay region would not be be allowed.

You're not promoting the gameplay organisation there, just a gameplay-irrelevant happening going on in your IRC channel - and having two posts for that just a few minutes apart was completely unnecessary.

If you're mentioning your movie nights as part of a regular update on the organisation, that's fine. Single post bumps about them - not.
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:33 am

Image

Aal Izz Well in Great White Brotherhood

With hard work from Ravania, Solm, Cormac, Johz, Mid-North, Zark (who wound up with the lead) and, well, me, Great White Brotherhood has been freed.

partying on the steps outside the UDL headquarters commenced.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
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Postby Vladisvok Destino » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:52 am

Congratulations to UDL for managing to detag the region properly this time. Perhaps in future they'll get it right first time :P
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:25 pm

Vladisvok Destino wrote:Congratulations to UDL for managing to detag the region properly this time. Perhaps in future they'll get it right first time :P

Better than bragging about your detagging skills and instead simply tagging it.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:26 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Vladisvok Destino wrote:Congratulations to UDL for managing to detag the region properly this time. Perhaps in future they'll get it right first time :P

Better than bragging about your detagging skills and instead simply tagging it.

Tagging is more fun.
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:12 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Mahaj wrote:Better than bragging about your detagging skills and instead simply tagging it.

Tagging is more fun.


Nah. Raiding is the fun part, tagging is monotonous...unless I have a nice RMB to suppress. THAT'S fun :P
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:15 pm

Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:Tagging is more fun.


Nah. Raiding is the fun part, tagging is monotonous...unless I have a nice RMB to suppress. THAT'S fun :P

Tagging is the proof of your victory - that's what's fun about it.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:29 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Nah. Raiding is the fun part, tagging is monotonous...unless I have a nice RMB to suppress. THAT'S fun :P

Tagging is the proof of your victory - that's what's fun about it.


Perhaps when I wake up in the morning. At 2 AM, I could care less :P
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Postby Johz » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:31 pm

Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:Tagging is more fun.


Nah. Raiding is the fun part, tagging is monotonous...unless I have a nice RMB to suppress. THAT'S fun :P

Well there we are, RMB unsuppressing is the best part of detagging as well. Maybe we should skip all this flag/WFE nonsense, and skip straight to the meat of the matter?
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:36 pm

Johz wrote:
Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Nah. Raiding is the fun part, tagging is monotonous...unless I have a nice RMB to suppress. THAT'S fun :P

Well there we are, RMB unsuppressing is the best part of detagging as well. Maybe we should skip all this flag/WFE nonsense, and skip straight to the meat of the matter?


Unfortunately for us, our commanders can't agree on the most fun part of any op, so we have to include the whole package. What a bummer, right? :P
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Postby Johz » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:40 pm

Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Johz wrote:Well there we are, RMB unsuppressing is the best part of detagging as well. Maybe we should skip all this flag/WFE nonsense, and skip straight to the meat of the matter?


Unfortunately for us, our commanders can't agree on the most fun part of any op, so we have to include the whole package. What a bummer, right? :P

Aw, dammit! Tell you what, you and I quit, and we'll set up our own little raiding/defending organisation. We'll tag all the regions one update, and then detag them all the next, and we'll only do the RMB posts. Sounds like a plan? :P
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:51 am

Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?

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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:56 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?


Because you probably never read the WFE. Alternatively you did and never bothered and never bothered to do some research.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White_Brotherhood
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:12 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?

Because white supremacist =/= facist. The two often go together, but not always.

Plus, Antifa is annoying.
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Eist » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:02 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?


Trust me, you are not the only one.
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:18 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?


Neither its WFE nor its flag suggests that, so I doubt it, We don't want to judge based on the cover.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:23 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Why am I the only one who's realized that Great White Brotherhood is almost certainly a white supremacist region and instead should just be handed over to Antifa for processing?


Neither its WFE nor its flag suggests that, so I doubt it, We don't want to judge based on the cover.


You and I seem to be the only ones looking into this in any sort of meaningful depth.
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