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[Hermes Express 123]

Are there any class regions around still? Are any of them active, large, powerful, etc?

[Free Social Conservatives]

An added layer of interest to this is that, should we take this post as accurate, then Francosim was officially implemented by a former member of the Pacific's pre-revolution government.

In another unexpected development, there had apparently been some disillusionment (and finger pointing) among the old Pacific government that had been replaced, and one of its high-ranking members privately reached out to me and we established a cordial relationship via telegrams. That player had a real life move coming up that would make it difficult for him to be online for a short while, and he offered me access to his forum account on the old Pacific government’s boards. I was able to lurk as a fly on the wall and read every counterattack plan they discussed, making it that much easier to defend against them, which solidified our hold on power. When this player finally returned, he was so surprised and impressed that I hadn’t exploited this access to embarrass him or discredit the group that he offered to join the NPO in a full time capacity. Months later, under the new identity of Unlimited, he became a Senator.

"Implemented" might give too much credit to Unlimited, even though Francos's access to his forum account made things "that much easier." In my own speculation, Francos would have probably kept hold of his ideological empire even without access to his enemy's forum and the information that gave him.

[Improper Classifications]

Are there any class regions around still? Are any of them active, large, powerful, etc?

Benigtopia is the big one, I believe. It's quite literally #1 in the world for WA endorsements.
Edit: Not by a small gap either. They're 3 endorsements per nation ahead of Europe, which is world-renowned for no endorsement caps and a massive WA program.

[Eluvatar]

An added layer of interest to this is that, should we take this post as accurate, then Francosim was officially implemented by a former member of the Pacific's pre-revolution government.

In another unexpected development, there had apparently been some disillusionment (and finger pointing) among the old Pacific government that had been replaced, and one of its high-ranking members privately reached out to me and we established a cordial relationship via telegrams. That player had a real life move coming up that would make it difficult for him to be online for a short while, and he offered me access to his forum account on the old Pacific government’s boards. I was able to lurk as a fly on the wall and read every counterattack plan they discussed, making it that much easier to defend against them, which solidified our hold on power. When this player finally returned, he was so surprised and impressed that I hadn’t exploited this access to embarrass him or discredit the group that he offered to join the NPO in a full time capacity. Months later, under the new identity of Unlimited, he became a Senator.

"Implemented" might give too much credit to Unlimited, even though Francos's access to his forum account made things "that much easier." In my own speculation, Francos would have probably kept hold of his ideological empire even without access to his enemy's forum and the information that gave him.

I suspect that Quebecshire is referring to how Unlimited defined ("codified") the ideology in Proper Francoist Thought.

[Free Social Conservatives]

I suspect that Quebecshire is referring to how Unlimited defined ("codified") the ideology in Proper Francoist Thought.

That seems to make sense, thank you!

[Reventus Koth]

Are there any good resources and/or references I could read on The Crimson Order? Especially the role that Gatesville played in it. It's a topic understandably lacking from Westwind's commendation, but is mentioned in several condemnations.

[Sedgistan]

The FRA, TNP and Equilism are probably the three most significant groupings from back then who still have members around / forums accessible. Numero Capitan in particular from the FRA has an excellent memory from then (and all time, it seems). From TNP - I think Eluvatar was involved in their side of the resistance.

From a quick glance at the FRA forums, there's plenty of threads on them there, including classic Gatesville propaganda, and a massive infodump of the Crimson Order's private forums including chats between Westwind and Gates, posted by Kharkistania. Those bits should be on public threads.

[Reventus Koth]

From a quick glance at the FRA forums, there's plenty of threads on them there, including classic Gatesville propaganda, and a massive infodump of the Crimson Order's private forums including chats between Westwind and Gates, posted by Kharkistania. Those bits should be on public threads.

Hmm. With only my "Invader" masking on the FRA forum, I can view these two threads, but maybe you can link me some other ones I might have missed and see if I have access to view them? That info dump sounds juicy, but I can't seem to find it when looking at Kharkistania's posts.

Greetings
The Enforcer

[Sedgistan]

Khark's thread is this one: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fra/sec ... -s160.html

I appear to have the ability to move some threads around on the forums, but having left the FRA years before it closed down, I don't feel I really should. You would need to see if Fratt, Karp, Numero or someone else is happy to make that one public.

[Reventus Koth]

Khark's thread is this one: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fra/sec ... -s160.html

I appear to have the ability to move some threads around on the forums, but having left the FRA years before it closed down, I don't feel I really should. You would need to see if Fratt, Karp, Numero or someone else is happy to make that one public.

Thanks to Fratt, this thread's now declassified. Looks like I've got another 17 pages of lore to comb through, thank you both so much!

[Foxyshire]

I can find most answers using the thread's search function, but I can't seem to find anything on The Skeleton Army. It looks like it used to be something big and was even commended in 2010.

So what was the Skeleton Army, exactly?

[Reventus Koth]

I can find most answers using the thread's search function, but I can't seem to find anything on The Skeleton Army. It looks like it used to be something big and was even commended in 2010.

So what was the Skeleton Army, exactly?

You can actually find a ton of information on The Skeleton Army on its own website and forums, linked in the region's WFE.

The most important thing to understand about The Skeleton Army is that they weren't actually invaders, they were roleplayers. They did not seize WA delegacies, they just showed up in your region and left when you signed the Thighbone of Surrender. They are beloved by defenders, especially by 10000 Islands (whose members dominate the friends page on their website), and raiders don't consider them a part of our history at all. That isn't to say that they weren't respected for their creativity, some of the songs they wrote for their "invasions" were bangers.

The group's most recent relevance has been has a spite nominee for The Blackbird Award for best invader group in the Defender Awards, which it won in 2014 and 2015, years where they were not even active. Someone with less of a bone to pick might be able to give you a more expansive look into their legacy

[Comfed]

It may be the same thread as the one already linked on the FRA boards, but as a source on the Crimson Order there is also this thread, which I do not believe requires a forum account to see.

[Reventus Koth]

It may be the same thread as the one already linked on the FRA boards, but as a source on the Crimson Order there is also this thread, which I do not believe requires a forum account to see.

You're right, this has all the same screenshots, convenient! It seems like the most useful part of the info dump on the FRA board that this thread doesn't feature, a zip file, has been lost to time. Wonder if anyone still has it lying around on an old drive?

[Eluvatar]

Khark's thread is this one: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fra/sec ... -s160.html

I appear to have the ability to move some threads around on the forums, but having left the FRA years before it closed down, I don't feel I really should. You would need to see if Fratt, Karp, Numero or someone else is happy to make that one public.

Thanks to Fratt, this thread's now declassified. Looks like I've got another 17 pages of lore to comb through, thank you both so much!

That thread has a twin on TNP's forum, also. You might also enjoy Where's Westwind, Banned by Lewis and Clark, Influence change, TAO for delegate, and of course I've been waiting a long time for this.

[Entropan]

what happened to Blitzkrieg? i'm glad they're gone, but there's nothing on the rmb to suggest any major movements, it just imploded

[Tinhampton]

Captain Woodhouse used to be part of NAZI EUROPE and refounded trophy regions on their behalf (in the same sense that Trans was a trophy of the Confederacy of Layem, despite the region never actually having existed before Layem founded it). Around the time that region got destroyed and moved to Nazi Europa in 2014, he decided to claim all of the regions he had refounded in the name of his own region, BLITZKRIEG, which never had much of a community beyond serving as a hub for Woodhouse's other refounded regions. Woodhouse hasn't actually done much refounding in the past couple of years, though.

[Of crazed]

Thanks to Fratt, this thread's now declassified. Looks like I've got another 17 pages of lore to comb through, thank you both so much!

That thread has a twin on TNP's forum, also. You might also enjoy Where's Westwind, Banned by Lewis and Clark, Influence change, TAO for delegate, and of course I've been waiting a long time for this.

You are the best.

[Drop Your Pants]

I've only just clicked Alcatraz was an old ADN member who came from there again?

[Crazy girl]

I've only just clicked Alcatraz was an old ADN member who came from there again?

Vazquez, the old (co?)founder of the ADN if I remember correctly.

[Drop Your Pants]

Vazquez, the old (co?)founder of the ADN if I remember correctly.

Its a bad sign when 2 past ADN members can barely remember why a region was important.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Vazquez, the old (co?)founder of the ADN if I remember correctly.

Its a bad sign when 2 past ADN members can barely remember why a region was important.

That's two more people than cared to try and stop a dirty refound of it even after an advance warning ;p

[Drop Your Pants]

That's two more people than cared to try and stop a dirty refound of it even after an advance warning ;p

Why would I care about a refound of a region I've had no contact with besides a past member more than 15 years ago?

@CG, was there anyone else or primarily Vaz? Was Lanna from there too?

[Sedgistan]

Mendanau / Pengina was someone named in an old FRA post by Vazquez as a co-founder of the region, and NeoMetal (from both Alcatraz + Nasicournia) was at one point Deputy Secretary of Defence in the ADN. The place was acknowledged as virtually dead already by 2008.

[Blackbird]

Mendanau / Pengina was someone named in an old FRA post by Vazquez as a co-founder of the region, and NeoMetal (from both Alcatraz + Nasicournia) was at one point Deputy Secretary of Defence in the ADN. The place was acknowledged as virtually dead already by 2008.

Many of the older ADN regions folded into Nasicournia around 2006-8.