Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[New Charlzilla]

Ever considered...perhaps moving to TNP?

[The Chairman]

Ever considered...perhaps moving to TNP?

No.

This doesn't deserve a thread.

[Warzone Codger]

I pop by and have been around recently because I'm helping an IRL friend of mine learn the game more, but I'm not doing anything, and the passwords to all of my main nations are scrambled.

Either way, ideas never truly leave the world.

(`_')/

You scrambled 'Chairman Mao'? That name was valuable!

[Rifty]

Ever considered...perhaps moving to TNP?

Recruiting for them in this fashion ain't gonna get you any closer to that delegate seat~

Also ever considered reading the OP? "Don't use this thread for recruiting - that's just tacky."

[The Chairman]

I pop by and have been around recently because I'm helping an IRL friend of mine learn the game more, but I'm not doing anything, and the passwords to all of my main nations are scrambled.

Either way, ideas never truly leave the world.

(`_')/

You scrambled 'Chairman Mao'? That name was valuable!

Some of our less able citizenry may have to die to increase steel production for the betterment of all.

[Warzone Codger]

Tbh some pay 2 play defence bonuses isn't a bad idea.

Raiders have activity, but most "rich" people tend to be natives who don't want to be involved in R/D, since they are usually older, busy with their full time jobs, RL priorities etc. We should be able to use our main advantage of actually earning decent amounts of money (at least relative to the game) to defend ourselves and help others.

[The Blaatschapen]

Tbh some pay 2 play defence bonuses isn't a bad idea.

Raiders have activity, but most "rich" people tend to be natives who don't want to be involved in R/D, since they are usually older, busy with their full time jobs, RL priorities etc. We should be able to use our main advantage of actually earning decent amounts of money (at least relative to the game) to defend ourselves and help others.

Do you have sources for the R/Ders being younger than the average NS player?

[McMasterdonia]

Tbh some pay 2 play defence bonuses isn't a bad idea.

Raiders have activity, but most "rich" people tend to be natives who don't want to be involved in R/D, since they are usually older, busy with their full time jobs, RL priorities etc. We should be able to use our main advantage of actually earning decent amounts of money (at least relative to the game) to defend ourselves and help others.

I agree. You could pay $10 for each extra WA nation that you want.

[Zaolat]

You make me unhappy sometimes Blaat. ;_;

[The Blaatschapen]

You make me unhappy sometimes Blaat. ;_;

You'll get used to it.

[Rifty]

Tbh some pay 2 play defence bonuses isn't a bad idea.

Raiders have activity, but most "rich" people tend to be natives who don't want to be involved in R/D, since they are usually older, busy with their full time jobs, RL priorities etc. We should be able to use our main advantage of actually earning decent amounts of money (at least relative to the game) to defend ourselves and help others.

I agree. You could pay $10 for each extra WA nation that you want.

Id do that - Where do i sign up for this service?

[McMasterdonia]

I agree. You could pay $10 for each extra WA nation that you want.

Id do that - Where do i sign up for this service?

Hah, I think it would bankrupt a few people. I could imagine Unibot buying 100+ WA nations and then maintaining a script to move them for defending.

We used to have a nation in TNP who thought it was silly that each person could only have one WA nation.. Indeed.. he said that was anti-capitalist. We should clearly allow the wealthiest of NSers (or perhaps the most addicted NSers??) to have the most WA's

[Rifty]

Id do that - Where do i sign up for this service?

Hah, I think it would bankrupt a few people. I could imagine Unibot buying 100+ WA nations and then maintaining a script to move them for defending.

We used to have a nation in TNP who thought it was silly that each person could only have one WA nation.. Indeed.. he said that was anti-capitalist. We should clearly allow the wealthiest of NSers (or perhaps the most addicted NSers??) to have the most WA's

"NationStates Buy an Operation store!"

I'm sure a lot of people would go overboard and spend all their money on it. However i can see me buying more and more daily. Whether we want to accept it or not; NS is like all other games - Put money into it and you get ahead. I guess we could just streamline the recruitment process with this

[McMasterdonia]

Hah, I think it would bankrupt a few people. I could imagine Unibot buying 100+ WA nations and then maintaining a script to move them for defending.

We used to have a nation in TNP who thought it was silly that each person could only have one WA nation.. Indeed.. he said that was anti-capitalist. We should clearly allow the wealthiest of NSers (or perhaps the most addicted NSers??) to have the most WA's

"NationStates Buy an Operation store!"

I'm sure a lot of people would go overboard and spend all their money on it. However i can see me buying more and more daily. Whether we want to accept it or not; NS is like all other games - Put money into it and you get ahead. I guess we could just streamline the recruitment process with this

Not necessarily - you can still get ahead in this game without spending much on NS at all. I have the postmaster general account, but other than that.. I haven't paid for anything for NS. The concept would be funny for a laugh, maybe as an April Fools Day joke. Purchase as many WA nations as you want.. But that would get complex as the money would have to be refunded.

It would make it next to impossible to see how successful the recruitment methods were for a given region, as a small region with a lot of money could suddenly have 500+ WA nations.

I'm sure there will be other features added that will cost us money... not sure what, but I seriously hope that multiple WA's would never be part of that Even if that is anti-capitalist

[Rifty]

"NationStates Buy an Operation store!"

I'm sure a lot of people would go overboard and spend all their money on it. However i can see me buying more and more daily. Whether we want to accept it or not; NS is like all other games - Put money into it and you get ahead. I guess we could just streamline the recruitment process with this

Not necessarily - you can still get ahead in this game without spending much on NS at all. I have the postmaster general account, but other than that.. I haven't paid for anything for NS. The concept would be funny for a laugh, maybe as an April Fools Day joke. Purchase as many WA nations as you want.. But that would get complex as the money would have to be refunded.

It would make it next to impossible to see how successful the recruitment methods were for a given region, as a small region with a lot of money could suddenly have 500+ WA nations.

I'm sure there will be other features added that will cost us money... not sure what, but I seriously hope that multiple WA's would never be part of that Even if that is anti-capitalist

Sorry i should have worded that better - You can get ahead with money easiliy; without cash you need to try...Id have spent over $150 on here in 10 months...

I would love that...i really really would....let us buy more WAs

[McMasterdonia]

Not necessarily - you can still get ahead in this game without spending much on NS at all. I have the postmaster general account, but other than that.. I haven't paid for anything for NS. The concept would be funny for a laugh, maybe as an April Fools Day joke. Purchase as many WA nations as you want.. But that would get complex as the money would have to be refunded.

It would make it next to impossible to see how successful the recruitment methods were for a given region, as a small region with a lot of money could suddenly have 500+ WA nations.

I'm sure there will be other features added that will cost us money... not sure what, but I seriously hope that multiple WA's would never be part of that Even if that is anti-capitalist

Sorry i should have worded that better - You can get ahead with money easiliy; without cash you need to try...Id have spent over $150 on here in 10 months...

I would love that...i really really would....let us buy more WAs

How much for your own game created region?

[Warzone Codger]

Tbh some pay 2 play defence bonuses isn't a bad idea.

Raiders have activity, but most "rich" people tend to be natives who don't want to be involved in R/D, since they are usually older, busy with their full time jobs, RL priorities etc. We should be able to use our main advantage of actually earning decent amounts of money (at least relative to the game) to defend ourselves and help others.

Do you have sources for the R/Ders being younger than the average NS player?

NS overall is skewed towards the younger player, which is time rich and money limited. The older players though is more likely to not be involved in R/D because of lack of time and generally not interested in additional drama (aka they 'grow out of it' after experiencing the harsh realities of the real world ).

Originally I was thinking of some pay-bonus that would only benefit natives/defenders. But if it were a ridiculous case of buying WAs, I'm pretty sure defenders will that attrition. The motivation to spend real money to destroy something isn't as great as saving it, especially if some defender leaning retired 'rich' player steps if the region seems significant enough.

You could have bought a theme park annual pass by now Rifty (from Qld right?) for the money you pumped into this game.

[Rifty]

Sorry i should have worded that better - You can get ahead with money easiliy; without cash you need to try...Id have spent over $150 on here in 10 months...

I would love that...i really really would....let us buy more WAs

How much for your own game created region?

AoI? Ummm....I think we've run three campaigns; so. Than a couple retaliation telegrams. All up looking at about $50

CoF was like 5 campaigns and a lot of retaliation. That'd be nearly $100.

Than Roricsted, Reengville, Riftend and Rifty all getting postmaster general. That's $40. Plus two gifts (for their birthdays) to both Venny and Ear lobes. $20 more.

A single recruitment campaign for TEK,$15

GDU got on two: $15

Two full WA campaigns for proposals, $30. plus a few to delegates, $4

50 + 100 + 40 + 20 + 15 + 15 + 30 + 4 = 274

Than factor in my currency is Australian - currently we are our dollar is like 85 US cents.

274 x 1.15 = $315.10

$315 on goddamn NS - Fuuuuucccccckkkk xDDDDD

[Rifty]

You could have bought a theme park annual pass by now Rifty (from Qld right?) for the money you pumped into this game.

Don't remind me Q.Q

I hate QLD - I miss good ol' Victoria...St Kilda Represent xD

I have that dual pass to DreamWorld and White wate world. So yes...i could...as you can see from the stats above

[The Blaatschapen]

Do you have sources for the R/Ders being younger than the average NS player?

NS overall is skewed towards the younger player, which is time rich and money limited. The older players though is more likely to not be involved in R/D because of lack of time and generally not interested in additional drama (aka they 'grow out of it' after experiencing the harsh realities of the real world ).

So no sources.

I've seen various parts of the game. Drama can be everywhere. I'm not convinced that R/Ders are younger. Many R/Ders I know are in their early twenties, many NSGers are teens. See, no sources (actually, NSG has various sources on its user base, good polls, but I'm lazy here).

Just for anecdotal evidence, I think the leader of the UDL cannot be considered "young" (nor old, before he kicks me ).

Blaat, 18 years old with 12 years of experience.

[Shadoke]

I wonder where the good times had gone... This thread used to be fun.

[Unibot III]

I'm 22 as of this week. I was 15 when I started playing NS and I was 17 when I started defending. I did the vast majority of my WA work when I was 16.

UDL, when I started it was criticized for running with a particularly "young" leadership. Mostly this was because of Mahaj - who people associate with being 12 or whatever we usually joke he is. I stand by my appointment of Mahaj - he was always one of our most pro-active soldiers and was one of my most trustworthy lieutenants.

I believe I was the youngest member of the UDL's original set of officers, until the appointment of Mahaj. Ravania, Ballotonia, Goobergunchia - and to a far lesser extent, Rawr, Belschaft, Spartz and Mallorea were all older than me (technically - I think).

[Shizensky]

I was 17 when I started NS, and started defending almost immediately. As I've gotten older and other things grabbed my attention, I've been less and less interested in the R/D landscape. I'll still help out every once in a while or help develop a tool if someone needs it, but the interest has definitely faded.

I find myself much more interested in community building now than anything else.

[Darkesia]

I place a high value on the military part of the game. I think a region can't politically project itself at all without the muscle and vitality provided by the military game.

That being said, I am truly too dang old for actually participating. I am asleep at midnight and at work at noon. On the weekends I am too busy with family to sign in with anything but my phone.

I should mention that Blaat's definition of old makes me cry. You consider mid twenties old? That is not old!

I'll just be over here in the corner sobbing.

[The Blaatschapen]

I place a high value on the military part of the game. I think a region can't politically project itself at all without the muscle and vitality provided by the military game.

That being said, I am truly too dang old for actually participating. I am asleep at midnight and at work at noon. On the weekends I am too busy with family to sign in with anything but my phone.

I should mention that Blaat's definition of old makes me cry. You consider mid twenties old? That is not old!

I'll just be over here in the corner sobbing.

I never said that. Read again.

Also, that would mean that I'm old.