The Black Riders - The Elite Cavalry of NationStates

by **Kogvuron** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:14 am

Ridersyl wrote:Understandable. But, do you know what else is legal but generally frowned upon by most regions in NationStates? Raiding. Which is what our region is entirely based around.

We've already been condemned and the negative labels applied to us are staggering in number. So, why would the TBR General Staff care about using a recruiting method that has a negative label applied to it?

I'm not saying that they would care, I'm saying that it is underhanded

Frankly, I don't expect that they would care

by **Tano** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:10 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Tano wrote:This is pretty much a basterdized version of a first grader's arguement. Start with a sarcastic statement that somehow invalidates what the previous person said because <s></s>, and then proceed to outright say you don't want to actually argue because they haven't presented an argument

Thank you for your valuable criticism of my counter-debating. Would you like to contribute to the topic at hand now?

Tano wrote:(which they have )

You used a smilie. Prepare for invalidation.
Also they hadn't until Kog's last reply.

Still haven't provided an argument. Nice deflection with the smiley though. Only problem is, I actually, ya know, had substance to my post beyond a smiley.

Now are you going to respond to any of the arguments brought before you? Or are you just going to keep trying to change the focus to other things.

by **RiderSyl** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:32 am

Tano wrote:Now are you going to respond to any of the arguments brought before you? Or are you just going to keep trying to change the focus to other things.

Try reading above. I responded to Kog's argument and he acknowledged it.

What purpose do you have in this thread, by the way? It seems like you're only here to try to stir things up.

by **Blood Wine** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:11 am

So,does anyone have a proper argument or what? "oh it's not the norm" isn't a good argument - also,anyone besides defenders wanne pitch into the discussion? cuz it's just raider vs defender atm

by **Upper Drizzilia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:28 pm

Let's keep criticizing eachother for using smilies. This is entertaining! :clap:

by **Aurum Rider** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Blood Wine wrote:So,does anyone have a proper argument or what? "oh it's not the norm" isn't a good argument - also,anyone besides defenders wanne pitch into the discussion? cuz it's just raider vs defender atm

Gameplay politics and criticism in general. "People generally agree it's bad, so you shouldn't do it." For example, raiding active roleplay regions. :lol2:

by **Ever-Wandering Souls** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:51 pm

Or raiding the largest founderless URC.

by **Baghdad Bob** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:55 am

Marshal Gest repelling the defenders attacking uphill

Huzzah! Huzzah! A defender mob made out of 30 updaters from various regions, including TEK, was defeated and thrown over the cliff by Marshal Gest the Destroyer! The unorganized mob of defenders didn't manage to place all their forces inside Anarchy before the region updated, and this proved to be fatal as Gest's banning skills sent them all to The Rejected Realms.

All Hail The Black Riders!

[7:10:25 PM] Feuer Ritter: Fendas tried to liberate Anarchy
[7:10:35 PM] Syl: Lol
[7:10:43 PM] Drew: cute
[7:10:44 PM] Syl: Wow.
[7:10:48 PM] Syl: They got annihlated.

Also, while the defenders were trying to liberate Anarchy, our glorious troops were tag raiding freely and reinforcing Ixnay to defend it against a defender attempt that never materialized.

Troops Involved: Feuer Ritter, Raidersyl, Aurum Rider, Upper Drizzilia and The Sapientia from Sicarius.

The Hit List:

1. The Capitalist Communists
2. Devious Tyrant
3. The Covenant of Shrek
4. Intergalactic Military Alliance
5. Lab
6. Flying Spaghetti Monster Islands
7. Inner Mongolia
8. The Western Empire
9. Pueri Solis
10. Green Planet
11. Federation of Independent Realms FIR
12. The Great Britain and Eire
13. Flartins World
14. Dressrosa
15. OmegaT Empire
16. Order of the Silver
17. Brass Goggles League of Nations
18. The Bad Lands
19. The International Radiated Wasteland
20. The Communist
21. Greater Sierra Alliance
22. United States of Africa
23. Scarlet Borderlands
24. My Little Pony
25. Trinity

The 25 regions The Black Riders hit during this update were "smoked' as a victory cigar.

by **Upper Drizzilia** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:59 am

Huzzah!

Hail Duck Boss!

by **Kogvuron** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:05 am

I mean, the reason an attempt on Ixnay didn't materialize was because we attempted Anarchy

by **Feuer Ritter** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:08 am

Kogvuron wrote:I mean, the reason an attempt on Ixnay didn't materialize was because we attempted Anarchy

So you can't plan 2 consecutive liberations? Ever heard of switchers?

by **Upper Drizzilia** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:08 am

Kogvuron wrote:I mean, the reason an attempt on Ixnay didn't materialize was because we attempted Anarchy

And getting two regions in one update is way too much

by **Kogvuron** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:12 am

Feuer Ritter wrote:
Kogvuron wrote:I mean, the reason an attempt on Ixnay didn't materialize was because we attempted Anarchy

So you can't plan 2 consecutive liberations? Ever heard of switchers?

Two liberations with 30 updaters on less than 12 hours of planning with the regions targeted only about 15 minutes apart? I don't think that has ever been pulled off in the history of NS.

by **Feuer Ritter** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:17 am

Kogvuron wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:
So you can't plan 2 consecutive liberations? Ever heard of switchers?

Two liberations with 30 updaters on less than 12 hours of planning with the regions targeted only about 15 minutes apart? I don't think that has ever been pulled off in the history of NS.

I bet the raiders could do it.

by **Blood Wine** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:18 am

Kogvuron wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:
So you can't plan 2 consecutive liberations? Ever heard of switchers?

Two liberations with 30 updaters on less than 12 hours of planning with the regions targeted only about 15 minutes apart? I don't think that has ever been pulled off in the history of NS.

15 minutes? plenty of time,if TBR can pull off an entire tag-raid and reinforce a occupations,then you guys should be able to attempt two liberations

by **Kogvuron** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:20 am

Feuer Ritter wrote:
Kogvuron wrote:Two liberations with 30 updaters on less than 12 hours of planning with the regions targeted only about 15 minutes apart? I don't think that has ever been pulled off in the history of NS.

I bet the raiders could do it.

I bet you couldn't.

I've never seen raiders pull 30 updaters, let alone on 12 hours of planning

by **Blood Wine** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:22 am

Feuer Ritter wrote:
Kogvuron wrote:Two liberations with 30 updaters on less than 12 hours of planning with the regions targeted only about 15 minutes apart? I don't think that has ever been pulled off in the history of NS.

I bet the raiders could do it.

Get 20 people together like the Anarchy occupation and go to town,go for 250+!

by **Feuer Ritter** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:25 am

Kogvuron wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:
I bet the raiders could do it.

I bet you couldn't.

I've never seen raiders pull 30 updaters, let alone on 12 hours of planning

We don't need 30, our troops get in before update, all of them not only a half

by **Kogvuron** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:27 am

Feuer Ritter wrote:
Kogvuron wrote:I bet you couldn't.

I've never seen raiders pull 30 updaters, let alone on 12 hours of planning

We don't need 30, our troops get in before update, all of them not only a half

You would need 30 to lib Anarchy (Well, counting the 5 ejections, 32)

by **Venico** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:39 am

Kogvuron wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:
I bet the raiders could do it.

I bet you couldn't.

I've never seen raiders pull 30 updaters, let alone on 12 hours of planning

I once got 27 in a chat within 12 hours of planning. I know it isn't 30 but I'm also a terrible planner. xD

by **Drop Your Pants** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:53 am

Feuer Ritter wrote:We don't need 30, our troops get in before update, all of them not only a half

Funny you mention that since 2 out of your 4 taggers were moving late a lot today

by **Feuer Ritter** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:54 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:We don't need 30, our troops get in before update, all of them not only a half

Funny you mention that since 2 out of your 4 taggers were moving late a lot today

That's because of my excruciating 2 second jumps in some cases

plus the update was rocking like a boat in a rough sea.

by **Upper Drizzilia** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:04 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Feuer Ritter wrote:We don't need 30, our troops get in before update, all of them not only a half

Funny you mention that since 2 out of your 4 taggers were moving late a lot today

Lol thats also because we're talking about a tag run. Comparing a tag run of dozens of regions to a single region liberation effort is like comparing cats and dogs.

by **Kogvuron** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:15 pm

Upper Drizzilia wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Funny you mention that since 2 out of your 4 taggers were moving late a lot today

Lol thats also because we're talking about a tag run. Comparing a tag run of dozens of regions to a single region liberation effort is like comparing cats and dogs.

Exactly, so when people like Blood Wine compare the difficulty of a tag run and reinforcing one region to two 30-person liberations, you can see my point.

by **Blood Wine** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:17 pm

Upper Drizzilia wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Funny you mention that since 2 out of your 4 taggers were moving late a lot today

Lol thats also because we're talking about a tag run. Comparing a tag run of dozens of regions to a single region liberation effort is like comparing cats and dogs.

Two regions is much easyer,just command for a switch and go do normal liberaty stuff

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