Forestavia wrote:Prydania wrote:Not really, no. Making it easier for the community to police itself and expel stains like Nazi regions is far more important to me than the “corruption” of your sense of Security Council purity.
Let me tell you something about the WA SC. It was ALWAYS meant to be weaponized. That was the point of Condemnations.
Now as it turned out? Those weapons turned out to be useless because regions that deserved condemnations used them as badges of honour.
So what has the SC? It’s found an all-new weapon, more potent then the old, useless weapons.
So spare me your handwringing over how this “weaponizes” the Security Council, because the SC had always been weaponized. It’s jugs that now the caliber of ammunition has gone up.
And as someone who both had family murdered by actual Nazis and whose targeted by modern day Nazis and fascists? Your attempts to moralize while dying on a hill to defend Nazi safe spaces rings flat at best and insulting at worst.
Hell, you know what? The proof’s been posted and reposted over and over again, but you refuse to actually look at it. So TG incoming. You can see for yourself if these are people you want your region to have an embassy with.
First, I am sorry that your ancestors had to undergo the horrors of the Holocaust. It will forever be a dark stain upon the world. And I in no way mean to or meant to insult you. And if I have I am sorry. My intention is not to insult but to stand firmly for the freedom of regions to keep their regional sovereignty intact. There are times when one has to stand for principles first. This is one of those times.
Secondly, it is also a time when the evidence - no matter what it is or how convincing it is - is beside the point. I'm coming at this from a position where I don't want to live in a world where the WA uses the SC to tear up our world with liberations. I'll get to that evidence and consider a decision regarding my own region's embassy with them when I can but right now I am using all of my NS time up right here in this chamber to come to the defense of all regions that are targeted in this way.
Thirdly, we need to go back to using condemnations. If they consider it a badge of honor then repeal it. Snatch the condemnation back from them!
Fourthly, we need to stop using fake liberations to harass natives on their own soil.
1) Region sovereignty is maintained contrary to what you say, as they still have a founder and a founder is the ultimate sovereignty
2) The WA is not about to go on a rampage 'tearing up the world' since there are very very few regions the collective WA could agree on to use them on. This is one of two regions really.
3) Repealing nearly any of the condemnations currently active is a non-starter, nor would it prevent them from viewing such as badges of honor.
4) There is nothing fake about this, nor will they be 'harassed' as you put it, until they could be anyways if and when the founder goes kaput.
