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Lynopia
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Postby Lynopia » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:33 am

Cormactopia II wrote:Le Cormac Snip
"Raider unity"

:roll:

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UED
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Postby UED » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:36 am

Lynopia wrote:
Cormactopia II wrote:Le Cormac Snip
"Raider unity"

:roll:


In an alternate universe somewhere some people are probably supporting someone or something just because "unity" demands it.
:meh:

Well I urge anyone who reads this to understand that the LEADERSHIP of the Social Liberal Union have come out against this Liberation proposal as it clearly glorifies the raiders.
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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:42 am

From the desk of Alexander Smith
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I can categorically deny that we have carried out the act of "impressing Mousebumples". If I did talk about Mousebumples (and I did), it was only in passing reference to the power they wielded in terms of delegate votes, not as an almighty shower of praise. In terms of our raider status, we remain "raiders in name only" as of the moment of writing. We may nominally be part of a raider division within a region, but we have had no contact with fellow raiders in the division, nor have we carried out any actual raiding.

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Cormactopia II
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Postby Cormactopia II » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:46 am

Tinhampton wrote:
From the desk of Alexander Smith
Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly


I can categorically deny that we have carried out the act of "impressing Mousebumples". If I did talk about Mousebumples (and I did), it was only in passing reference to the power they wielded in terms of delegate votes, not as an almighty shower of praise. In terms of our raider status, we remain "raiders in name only" as of the moment of writing. We may nominally be part of a raider division within a region, but we have had no contact with fellow raiders in the division, nor have we carried out any actual raiding.

I'm not sure who you are, but I wasn't talking about you. :P
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Tretrid
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Postby Tretrid » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:50 am

I shall be voting against this because:
  1. The raider delegate supports this
  2. The natives oppose it
  3. There is a better proposal
  4. I received propaganda against the resolution
  5. There is no need for a liberation, as there is no password,
  6. The first letter in each clause spell "RAIDER", and most importantly,
  7. The nation which proposed it resigned shortly afterwards.
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Mons Garle
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Postby Mons Garle » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:04 pm

UED wrote:Well I urge anyone who reads this to understand that the LEADERSHIP of the Social Liberal Union have come out against this Liberation proposal as it clearly glorifies the raiders.


As the democratically elected Delegate of the Social Liberal Union Region, I fully endorse this message. The current proposal is not satisfactory and is clearly not in the interests of the region I represent, nor its native members. We need to make sure this is done properly.

I would fully and sincerely urge members to vote against this current proposal for those reasons.

Regards,

Mons Garle
Democratically Elected WA Delegate for the SLU
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Tahkranul
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Postby Tahkranul » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:07 pm

Colonel Hiram Gerrantz snorts derisively.
"This is disgusting. Tahkranul votes against this mockery of a liberation proposal. I hope to soon vote for the proper one backed by the natives struggling against tyranny."
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Galiagolach
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Postby Galiagolach » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:09 pm

The Electoral Khanate of Galiagolach has voted against this proposal after reviewing statements from natives of the region.

Galiagolach has also notified the delegate of Rossferry to vote the same.

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Kelinfort
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:10 pm

Impressed, despite the dire situation in Social Liberal Union, that Marshal T E Lawrence of The Invaders, in cohorts with other elite raiders, was able to conduct this seemingly-impossible invasion,


Statement from Westphalia's Minister of Foreign Affairs (Fuck it, this doesn't even deserve a formal header):

Fuck this Resolution

In no uncertain terms, Against.
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UED
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Postby UED » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:14 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Impressed, despite the dire situation in Social Liberal Union, that Marshal T E Lawrence of The Invaders, in cohorts with other elite raiders, was able to conduct this seemingly-impossible invasion,


Statement from Westphalia's Minister of Foreign Affairs (Fuck it, this doesn't even deserve a formal header):

Fuck this Resolution

In no uncertain terms, Against.


Hello Kelinfort,

long time no see! We thank you and your region for the support. In other news the AGAINST are now in the lead! Please everyone vote against this corrupt proposal!
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Lord Ravenclaw
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:16 pm

I'm not impressed folks, so it's a no from me.
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The Atlae Isles
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Pareidolia

Postby The Atlae Isles » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:16 pm

Tretrid wrote:I shall be voting against this because:
  1. The raider delegate supports this
  2. The natives oppose it
  3. There is a better proposal
  4. I received propaganda against the resolution
  5. There is no need for a liberation, as there is no password,
  6. The first letter in each clause spell "RAIDER", and most importantly,
  7. The nation which proposed it resigned shortly afterwards.


Even when you take pareidolia into account, it seems too good to be true, no?

The Atlae Isles delegation shall vote AGAINST the resolution.
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Social Mysterion
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Postby Social Mysterion » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:18 pm

New Zacharianasville wrote:Even if it is a raider sanctioned and made bill, none the less, it still advocates for the liberation of the region, which will help yall, so I will keep my "for" vote.

Please, you are mistaken. We do not want a liberation. There is nothing to liberate; there is no password. It will not help us at all. We implore you, vote against. We know you want to help the SLU, and voting against this is the best way. Please!

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Tretrid
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Postby Tretrid » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:19 pm

The Atlae Isles wrote:
Tretrid wrote:I shall be voting against this because:
  1. The raider delegate supports this
  2. The natives oppose it
  3. There is a better proposal
  4. I received propaganda against the resolution
  5. There is no need for a liberation, as there is no password,
  6. The first letter in each clause spell "RAIDER", and most importantly,
  7. The nation which proposed it resigned shortly afterwards.


Even when you take pareidolia into account, it seems too good to be true, no?

The Atlae Isles delegation shall vote AGAINST the resolution.

I'm not exactly sure how seeing nonexistent patterns has to do with international politics.
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Mons Garle
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Postby Mons Garle » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:22 pm

Just to make it crystal clear to all, the Raider Delegate in the SLU has voted FOR this resolution. I somehow doubt they would be acting in the interests of our region.

Please vote against!
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UED
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Postby UED » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:23 pm

Mons Garle wrote:Just to make it crystal clear to all, the Raider Delegate of the SLU has voted FOR this resolution. I somehow doubt they would be acting in the interests of our region.

Please vote against!


^^^

In other news South Pacific and Rejected Realms have voted against!
We cannot in good conscience allow the raiders to abuse the powers of the Security Council and push their agenda!
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:25 pm

I've voted against, this is just far too shady
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This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

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Tretrid
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Postby Tretrid » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:26 pm

UED wrote:
Mons Garle wrote:Just to make it crystal clear to all, the Raider Delegate of the SLU has voted FOR this resolution. I somehow doubt they would be acting in the interests of our region.

Please vote against!


^^^

In other news South Pacific and Rejected Realms have voted against!
We cannot in good conscience allow the raiders to abuse the powers of the Security Council and push their agenda!

I really hope that my fellow nations in The East Pacific will not support this resolution. Currently things are tied, and the delegate hasn't voted.
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Mons Garle
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Postby Mons Garle » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:28 pm

Against is now leading by almost 1,000 votes. Many thanks for everyone's support!
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Navaronia
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Postby Navaronia » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:29 pm

It seems like this hastily put together attempt by Filthy Casualz is gaining more attention to it's suspicious qualities.

Best of wishes to the Natives who are sticking through this, hope they recover quickly.

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Eggy216
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Postby Eggy216 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:31 pm

Thank you so much to everyone for voting with the membership of the SLU against the resolution currently at vote, we really appreciate the support!
Political Compass:

Economic: Left/Right: -9.12
Social: Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

Vote AGAINST the liberation of the Social Liberal Union.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall.

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Deladara
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SC Discussion

Postby Deladara » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:34 pm

Even though I am not currently a member of the WA on this account, I have implored the residents of my region on my alt account to vote AGAINST this resolution.

I believe the people above me have cited multiple reasons as to why this resolution shouldn't be passed. I would like to cite yet another reason, imploring everyone to fail this resolution. When I first joined NS, I had no idea what I was doing and what to do. I didn't understand anything that was going on. The nation that has proposed this resolution is no more than a day old, yet the style in which the resolution is written does not represent how young their nation is.

I can confidently say they have opened a new account in order to propose this resolution. I can only think of one reason for this, and that is political gain. If their main account proposed such a resolution, it would surely fail. They instead have to open up another account to alleviate suspicion.

Once again I ask all of you to vote AGAINST this resolution. I have.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Aleisyr has already changed their vote to AGAINST.
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Boghorn
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Postby Boghorn » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:41 pm

I understand that this proposal seems to have been written by a raider, but a liberation is a liberation regardless, so why is it that you are so adamant that this proposal be shot down?

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Social Mysterion
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Postby Social Mysterion » Sun Oct 09, 2016 12:43 pm

Boghorn wrote:I understand that this proposal seems to have been written by a raider, but a liberation is a liberation regardless, so why is it that you are so adamant that this proposal be shot down?

Because it was written by a raider, without our best interests in mind. Think about it, the SLU isn't passworded, so there's no purpose to a liberation except to gain fame for the Invaders. A liberation would not help us at all.

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