[Passed] Quarantine Regulation

[Araraukar]

Seconded. Also, the Cogorian ambassador refuses to explain exaclty why his people would voluntarily undergo needless slaughter.

Different nations have different needs, and sometimes the needs can include "not wasting resources on sick people". Yes, I know, horrible and all that, but given the diversity of nations and situations they are in, around here, I can easily think of several situations where killing the sick might be the best choice for them and the rest of the society as well. (OOC: Think zombie apocalypse. )

However, if the Cogorians are so willing to die, then they don't have any issue; they could simply choose to commit suicides, and if their national laws allow euthanasia, it could easily be made into a quick and fairly painless event, even if we were talking about large numbers. There's no need for them to resort to using military weapons on their own population.

OOC: Some people also fish for SC condemnations with offensive RP like that.

[The New Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth]

This could be useful and helpful, we second this, and approve of it, though we're just representatives and not members of the WA.

[Separatist Peoples]

Why would we require something as mundane as permission? It is defined as a deliberate intervention undertaken with the express intention of ending a life, to relieve intractable suffering. Our government is the legal guardian of all our citizens, we merely deem them medically unfit to decide what is best for them, then as their guardian approve their death. Their permission is hardly needed when the health of the entire nation is at risk.

"Because, for members, WA resolutions supersede domestic laws, and WA law dictates that not only can you not compel a medical procedure such as euthanasia, but you cannot use military forces to kill civilians in the manner you are describing. If you do not obey these laws, why should nations bother considering your opinion in drafting? You won't obey anyway, so any concessions made to you would bring nothing to the author in the negotiation."

[Araraukar]

OOC: Well, you got about 2/3 of the needed approvals with a late start to a manual campaign. That's not entirely bad.

[Umeria]

I'd like to thank all the delegates that approved my proposal, including, but not limited to:

• Imperium Anglorum
• Sciongrad
• Aliesyr
• Tinfect
• the rubber stamp brigade

On a side note, I have a slight suspicion that Exidium Planetis is opposed to my proposal.
OOC: Do I change the header to "redraft" now?

[Tinfect]

OOC: Do I change the header to "redraft" now?

OOC:
Not at all, you can keep trying to hit vote if you like. Try going for a TG API run, though, it avoids the cost of Stamps, and it means you don't have to Manually TG Delegates. Imperium Anglorum made the Communique API, I don't know where it is anymore, but I know he still develops it, you can probably ask him for it. If you want to keep drafting though, it might attract some more attention if you change the title to [Re-Draft] rather than just [Draft].

[Umeria]

OOC: Do I change the header to "redraft" now?

OOC:
Not at all, you can keep trying to hit vote if you like. Try going for a TG API run, though, it avoids the cost of Stamps, and it means you don't have to Manually TG Delegates. Imperium Anglorum made the Communique API, I don't know where it is anymore, but I know he still develops it, you can probably ask him for it.

OOC: What's an API and how do I use it? Also, most of the delegates I sent the TG to were probably inactive in that time, so if I send another now it would look like I sent it twice. Or is that not how it works?

[Tinfect]

OOC: What's an API and how do I use it?

OOC:
Read all of the relevant information here. The instructions on how exactly to send telegrams using it can be found in that link as well. Now, as it says, if you're loitering in a larger region, they probably have their own API key, so, consider grabbing a few Puppets and a Storage Region of your own to throw TGs from, and get the API key for that one; it will make things easier for both yourself, and the Region you're in. After that, throw a TG at Imperium Anglorum for Communique, and the basics of how to use that in particular, and you should be good.

Also, most of the delegates I sent the TG to were probably inactive in that time, so if I send another now it would look like I sent it twice. Or is that not how it works?

Fair point, might be best to wait a week or so and/or write up a new campaign telegram so that it feels a bit less spammy. Many delegates have their Campaign Telegrams disabled, and we don't want to encourage that sort of thing to spread.
Oh, and keep in mind that your proposal is both inoffensive and reasonable. I know that sounds like a good thing, but it really just means that you're likely to get mostly apathy from many Delegates and Voters. Some of them just won't feel like its worth bothering with, and while that may not translate into votes against, it will translate into not voting at all. You'll have a harder time gaining support than, say, a resolution that restricts the ability of people to legally throw puppies into woodchippers.

[Umeria]

I'm almost glad it didn't make quorum, because I just decided that I don't like the all-caps.

Oh, and keep in mind that your proposal is both inoffensive and reasonable. I know that sounds like a good thing, but it really just means that you're likely to get mostly apathy from many Delegates and Voters. Some of them just won't feel like its worth bothering with, and while that may not translate into votes against, it will translate into not voting at all. You'll have a harder time gaining support than, say, a resolution that restricts the ability of people to legally throw puppies into woodchippers.

Not worth bothering?! But think of the starving disease victims! Is there any way to fix this?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Fair point, might be best to wait a week or so and/or write up a new campaign telegram so that it feels a bit less spammy. Many delegates have their Campaign Telegrams disabled, and we don't want to encourage that sort of thing to spread.

In a week, I'll certainly be back from holiday. Will be able to help you on this front.

[Araraukar]

Oh, and keep in mind that your proposal is both inoffensive and reasonable. I know that sounds like a good thing, but it really just means that you're likely to get mostly apathy from many Delegates and Voters.

Is there any way to fix this?

OOC: I wouldn't try to "fix" it if I was you. You'll have more trouble getting it to vote, but more chance of passing it, if you can get some of the superdelegates on your side.

[Tinfect]

Is there any way to fix this?

OOC:
Scrap it and start drafting the Puppy-Woodchipper Safety Act?

But in all seriousness, not really, no. Again, your whole resolution, right down to concept, is both inoffensive and reasonable, only one Nation that I've seen here has objected to the idea that they build Quarantines instead of Death-Camps, and, well, we don't really listen to the people that take the Death-Camps often around these parts very often, do we?

You'd be best served with an aggressive (In distribution, not wording) telegram campaign, which is to say, when you finally get your hands on Communique, submit when you go to sleep, and leave Communique running and sending Telegrams over the night. Many Delegates might not check their Inboxes daily, but there should be enough time/telegrams to get the job done.

[Bears Armed]

You'll have a harder time gaining support than, say, a resolution that restricts the ability of people to legally throw puppies into woodchippers.

"Who'd waste puupies like that. on the first paw, anyhows?
"M'mm, honey-roast sucking-puppy..."

Artorrios o SouthWoods.

[States of Glory WA Office]

I'm almost glad it didn't make quorum, because I just decided that I don't like the all-caps.

OOC: This doesn't have anything to do with IA, does it?

[Umeria]

I'm almost glad it didn't make quorum, because I just decided that I don't like the all-caps.

OOC: This doesn't have anything to do with IA, does it?

No; when I wrote the first draft I didn't know how a resolution should be formatted, so I used GAR#53's caps format. I now realize it can be styled however I want, so I changed it. And, hmm, no caps doesn't look right either. I'm going to italicize it.

[States of Glory WA Office]

OOC: This doesn't have anything to do with IA, does it?

No; when I wrote the first draft I didn't know how a resolution should be formatted, so I used GAR#53's caps format. I now realize it can be styled however I want, so I changed it. And, hmm, no caps doesn't look right either. I'm going to italicize it.

OOC: Great, now you've guaranteed that IA is going to vote against. Not the wisest move.

[Imperium Anglorum]

No; when I wrote the first draft I didn't know how a resolution should be formatted, so I used GAR#53's caps format. I now realize it can be styled however I want, so I changed it. And, hmm, no caps doesn't look right either. I'm going to italicize it.

OOC: Great, now you've guaranteed that IA is going to vote against. Not the wisest move.

I look upon my region-mates with favour. Italicisation isn't perfect — but it's better than (shudders) bolding. But not as good as no formatting whatsoever (also why I never keep the bolding in the Passed Resolutions thread).

[Hannasea]

I look upon my region-mates with favour. Italicisation isn't perfect — but it's better than (shudders) bolding. But not as good as no formatting whatsoever (also why I never keep the bolding in the Passed Resolutions thread).

OOC: I think it's super cool that you're abusing your position of authority to editorialize resolution content with your own views on formatting!

If you're not going to exactly transcribe the resolution contents to the passed resolutions thread, you should be relieved of the responsibility in favor of someone who will.

[Imperium Anglorum]

I look upon my region-mates with favour. Italicisation isn't perfect — but it's better than (shudders) bolding. But not as good as no formatting whatsoever (also why I never keep the bolding in the Passed Resolutions thread).

OOC: I think it's super cool that you're abusing your position of authority to editorialize resolution content with your own views on formatting!

I have a position of authority? I didn't know that. I always thought that, in normal times, being a Delegate was simply a position selected by those in one's region and not appointed by the moderators. But if you're speaking about how I also run the Passed Resolutions thread...

If you're not going to exactly transcribe the resolution contents to the passed resolutions thread, you should be relieved of the responsibility in favor of someone who will.

No, just continuing with the same policy as the last person who ran it. Just, I never heard you call for Kenny's relief when the second level of bullets were not included here. In the glorious precedent of the ages upon which the WA stands (praise be to eternal pillars of our community!), I am absolutely in the clear to include or not include whatever formatting I wish to include or not to include. Now, if you provide that formatting, I'll still add it — just if you don't provide it, I won't.

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A third edit, but to the OP: I'll be back from holiday tomorrow. Should be able to help on telegrams. See my telegram to you for more information.

[Hannasea]

No, just continuing with the same policy as the last person who ran it.

OOC: His policy was that if you provided him with the formatting to C+P, he would. Yours seems to be that you will strip it out regardless.

[Umeria]

I look upon my region-mates with favour. Italicisation isn't perfect — but it's better than (shudders) bolding.

When proofreading drafts, I imagine it being read aloud. Emphasis, especially underlining and bolding, get in the way of that oral view. I tried with no emphasis but it sounded monotonic. Italics, however, have just the right amount of feeling. Let's agree to disagree.

Would italicisation be better than, say, all-caps?

[States of Glory WA Office]

Would italicisation be better than, say, all-caps?

OOC: Personally, I use all-caps, but you're the author. At the end of the day, you make the decision as to the formatting of the active clauses.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Proposal link here.

[Tahkranul]

"I see your proposal has been resubmitted. I hope it reaches quorum soon, as I look forward to voting for it, darling."

[Araraukar]

OOC: You should change thread title to have "Submitted" in it. That way forum-readers will know to descend on it like a flock of furies.