[PASSED] Digital Network Defense

[Excidium Planetis]

Last chance before I submit this. Any further comments or complaints?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Madsons: DNN. Digigigigigigigigigigital Network News! Holograms everywhere! The plane is THIIIIIIIIIIIIIS big!

[Tinfect]

Madsons: DNN. Digigigigigigigigigigital Network News! Holograms everywhere! The plane is THIIIIIIIIIIIIIS big!

Imperial Central News Network: In a report from Diplomatic Oversight that surprised exactly no-one, Overseer Markhov's Pet-Project, the World Assembly, has once more shown itself to be a collection of utter madmen. How the Overseer has maintained determination in his quest to bring Civilization to the Barbarians, is as-of-yet unknown, but it is certainly entertaining. And now we transfer to the Livet Research Facility, with the Core Worlds Meteorological Report...

[Imperium Anglorum]

Madsons: DNN. Digigigigigigigigigigital Network News! Holograms everywhere! The plane is THIIIIIIIIIIIIIS big!

Imperial Central News Network: In a report from Diplomatic Oversight that surprised exactly no-one, Overseer Markhov's Pet-Project, the World Assembly, has once more shown itself to be a collection of utter madmen. How the Overseer has maintained determination in his quest to bring Civilization to the Barbarians, is as-of-yet unknown, but it is certainly entertaining. And now we transfer to the Livet Research Facility, with the Core Worlds Meteorological Report...

Imperial Radio Central: Today, after remarks inflaming diplomatic tensions, Joris Bohnson was arrested for impersonation of a diplomatic official and carted off to a lunatic asylum after a short trial wherein the accused gave his name as 'they'll all pay' and 'Leave goddamnit'. A spokesman from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office chastised all persons involved in what has become, a plainly idiotic row. Now, to the Shipping Forecast... gale force winds...

[Excidium Planetis]

Schultz sits there, watching the news. "Ah yes, very insightful. Plenty of ideas for last minute changes to my draft."

She changes the channel, settling on a rerun of The World Assembly.

[Oceanias Michael Moore]

Opposed.

[Imperium Anglorum]

She changes the channel, settling on a rerun of The World Assembly.

Parsons gives a slight chuckle, watching Yes, Secretary General.

[Excidium Planetis]

Opposed.

OOC:
Weren't you previously warned by a moderator to stop doing that?

[Europe and Oceania]

Opposed.

OOC:
Weren't you previously warned by a moderator to stop doing that?

First of all it wasn't a warning, look: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p28629833

I don't think it's against the rules, rather I think it was a suggestion because simply typing "support" or "opposed" doesn't help the authors is
what he said, I don't think it's actually against the rules.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Please put '[SUBMITTED]' in the title. Good luck.

[Tinfect]

OOC:
If you're not already running a Campaign, I can throw one together right quick.

[Imperium Anglorum]

OOC:
If you're not already running a Campaign, I can throw one together right quick.

Done, around ~640 out of 1500 (that low because I maintain a, for my use only, up-to-date filter on who doesn't accept campaign telegrams).

[Excidium Planetis]

OOC:
If you're not already running a Campaign, I can throw one together right quick.

Done, around ~640 out of 1500 (that low because I maintain a, for my use only, up-to-date filter on who doesn't accept campaign telegrams).

Keep talking like that, and people will suspect that we're multi-ing.

[Kenzoland]

Will the new Digital Network Defense have any impact on the digital currency used in Kenzoland or in any nation? Since a big part of the economy is runned through the Information Industry a flaw in the system would have a gigantic impact for Kenzolandian economy. The Kenzolandian minister of economy is mostly afraid that the system may slow-down international trade actions. Especially if one country uses another system they may interfere and have economical disadvantages. As long the DND system brings no changes to economical actions the Empire will support it.

[Free Burger]

"Reserves the right of member nations to monitor networks for digital security threats, should national law allow them to do so."

Can member nations monitor other nation's networks? I find this could accidentally turn into spying or lead into some sort of agenda I may not approve of.

[Maltyrrhena]

[box]

Digital Network Defense
A Resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets

Category: International Security | Mild | Proposed by: Excidium Planetis

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Prohibits member nations from engaging in cyberattacks themselves, with the exception that member nations may utilize cyberattacks against networks belonging to foreign combatants with which they are in conflict, or against government networks of nations they reasonably suspect pose a real threat to their nation;
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It's prohibited to attack a non threatening nations. Why I should do a cyber attack to a friendly - or neutral - Country anyway?
If I'm jealous 'cause my neighbor has the better economy and I try to do some economic espionage that's still not prohibited: My neighbor is a threat due his stronger industry, or I suspect him because he maybe do unethical Business.
After all this resolution will not save anyone from cyberattacks. And that's why this Resolution just leads to bad over regulation.

My vote is clear: NO.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Done, around ~640 out of 1500 (that low because I maintain a, for my use only, up-to-date filter on who doesn't accept campaign telegrams).

Keep talking like that, and people will suspect that we're multi-ing.

Then they can submit all the GHRs they want. Though, I can certainly see where that belief is coming from.

[Doxovia]

"cyberattack" as any act of unlawful access to or alteration of numerical information stored on digital devices.

Prohibits member nations from engaging in cyberattacks

Isn't that a bit redundant, or are governments exempt from laws?

[Sciongrad]

"International Security?" Natalia hissed. "Sciongrad will vote nay."

[Europe and Oceania]

We voted against this.

[Excidium Planetis]

Will the new Digital Network Defense have any impact on the digital currency used in Kenzoland or in any nation? Since a big part of the economy is runned through the Information Industry a flaw in the system would have a gigantic impact for Kenzolandian economy. The Kenzolandian minister of economy is mostly afraid that the system may slow-down international trade actions. Especially if one country uses another system they may interfere and have economical disadvantages. As long the DND system brings no changes to economical actions the Empire will support it.

"Because digital currency counts as numerical information stored on a digit device, unlawfully altering a digital currency would count as a cyberattack. Nations are required to make reasonable efforts to secure networks against cyberattacks, so all DND would do is require your nation to make a reasonable effort to protect your nation's digital currency from theft."

"Reserves the right of member nations to monitor networks for digital security threats, should national law allow them to do so."

Can member nations monitor other nation's networks? I find this could accidentally turn into spying or lead into some sort of agenda I may not approve of.

"Not that clause, no. Rather, this clause:

Prohibits member nations from engaging in cyberattacks themselves, with the exception that member nations may utilize cyberattacks against networks belonging to foreign combatants with which they are in conflict, or against government networks of nations they reasonably suspect pose a real threat to their nation;

"Allows spying on other nations in the case that they are reasonably suspected of posing a real threat."

It's prohibited to attack a non threatening nations. Why I should do a cyber attack to a friendly - or neutral - Country anyway?

"Because that actually happens, and I don't like it."

If I'm jealous 'cause my neighbor has the better economy and I try to do some economic espionage that's still not prohibited: My neighbor is a threat due his stronger industry,

"Is that a real threat to your nation? Is that a reasonable suspicion? It seems like your neighbor's economic prosperity would surely benefit you more than your neighbor's economic collapse."

or I suspect him because he maybe do unethical Business.

"That's not an allowed reason to engage in cyberattacks."

After all this resolution will not save anyone from cyberattacks.

"Yes it will. It will certainly help save your own citizens from being cyberattacked by criminals, now that your government must make a reasonable effort to protect them."

And that's why this Resolution just leads to bad over regulation.

"What?"

"cyberattack" as any act of unlawful access to or alteration of numerical information stored on digital devices.

Prohibits member nations from engaging in cyberattacks

Isn't that a bit redundant, or are governments exempt from laws?

"Governments are generally exempt from other nations' laws, and so are prohibited from cyberattacking other nations except in cases of war or imminent threat."

"International Security?" Natalia hissed. "Sciongrad will vote nay."

"So you don't believe in boosting police budgets to protect your own citizens? How sad. This one doesn't even involve any guns or bombs."

We voted against this.

"As expected."

[The United Universe]

It's strong, it's now important and you should vote for.

[Wallenburg]

This resolution is now at vote.

[Kahanistan]

"cyberattack" as any act of unlawful access to or alteration of numerical information stored on digital devices. For the purposes of cooperation with other WA legislation, such acts are to be considered acts of violence.

"A repressive regime could easily declare accessing a prohibited website unlawful access and thus a cyberattack and an act of violence to brand dissidents terrorists. The Free Republic must thus cast its vote against any WA resolution that might put a kosher stamp on violent repression."

[Wallenburg]

"cyberattack" as any act of unlawful access to or alteration of numerical information stored on digital devices. For the purposes of cooperation with other WA legislation, such acts are to be considered acts of violence.

"A repressive regime could easily declare accessing a prohibited website unlawful access and thus a cyberattack and an act of violence to brand dissidents terrorists. The Free Republic must thus cast its vote against any WA resolution that might put a kosher stamp on violent repression."

"No, Ambassador, it could not. That would be an entirely unreasonable redefinition of 'violence'."