The Kiss Master wrote:We Are Not The ATF wrote:If this was happening in any other region, nobody would try to stop a refound. In my experience, the WA usually helps the natives refound after their region is liberated.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pa ... ?start=108We Are Not The ATF wrote:If this is the case, then this is possibly the most immature use of the World Assembly that I have ever seen.
See above
So basically your entire argument is "TBR are Nazis". I've read Liberate Nazi Europe, and it is not at all like this proposal. Nazi Europe was targeted on the basis that it represented hatred and that it was " a stronghold dedicated to abhorrence". They were screwed with because they actually spread real life hatred and promoted an ideology that is actually evil.
I love how out of all the arguments that have been given in this thread, you chose to respond to the least important out of all of them. You responded to 6 out of 14 comments, ignoring what most of them actually said, and 2 of those comments you only responded to so you could continue to be evasive as to your identity.
Curious. I seem to remember you championing the cause to liberate NE. Its all good and well when a region starts affecting GCR's, that they can use the SC for their purpose. I guess it is a different thing when us little guys are continually having our region raided over and over. We should just go it on our own?
I think that it is absolutely laughable that you think what you are doing is the same as Liberate Nazi Europe, seeing as they are not the same at all. I also think it should be noticed that Liberate Nazi Europe was later repealed on the basis that "every region should hold the right to self-protection".
Luxdonia wrote:We Are Not The ATF wrote:I love how even after its death the SC is still biased against TBR. If this was happening in any other region, nobody would try to stop a refound. In my experience, the WA usually helps the natives refound after their region is liberated.
My favorite part of this is that I'll probably be the only one who asks the standard liberation question: does it have native support?
To the honourable envoy from the nation of We Are Not the ATF:
The Security Council is biased againist groups or organizations which malicously and continually attack defenceless regions. The World Assembly represents the views of the majority and therefore it is no suprise that raiders are frequently condemned by this body.
Mrs Lisa Bridge,
Luxdonian Special Envoy to the Security Council
No region is defenseless. There are non-executive delegacies, active founders, and passwords available to every region, unless they fail to keep hold of those defenses. I also feel that you should understand the difference between condemning a region and purposely disrupting its attempts at a refound. At one point back when I was trying to commend TBR, someone suggested that instead I try to repeal the condemnation. I responded saying that I believe that TBR deserves its condemnation, not because it is a "badge of honor" but because raiding is an offense worthy of condemnation, and I still hold that belief. However, I don't believe in using the SC as a weapon with which to attack a region that has already been defeated. Like it or not, the Black Riders is gone, yet in spite of this the majority of the NationStates community continues to beat its corpse even as it decomposes. Why don't you do the smart thing and shift your focus towards actual enemies actually capable of doing actual harm to you. In case you haven't noticed, DEN isn't even deployed in TBR, meaning that it's free to begin another occupation while the rest of the world can't take the time to notice what they, the ex-Black Riders as they have been called, are preparing to do.
