PASSED: Repeal "Freedom of Marriage Act"

[The Dark Star Republic]

Maybe very pedantic but LGBT isn't just the rights of same sex couples. It also includes the rights of transgendered who may not identify as male or female. The last sentence says that this repeal does not give countries the right to discriminate against same sex couples, but what about transgender couples?

The Freedom of Marriage Act doesn't even touch on that (in fact, it specifically uses "sex" rather than "gender"). The repeal can't remove any protections for transgender couples because the original resolution doesn't give any protections to transgender couples.

[Normlpeople]

Maybe very pedantic but LGBT isn't just the rights of same sex couples. It also includes the rights of transgendered who may not identify as male or female. The last sentence says that this repeal does not give countries the right to discriminate against same sex couples, but what about transgender couples?

"CoCR, Article 1, section 3:"

c ) All inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, language, economic or cultural background, physical or mental disability or condition, religion or belief system, sexual orientation or sexual identity, or any other arbitrarily assigned and reductive categorisation which may be used for the purposes of discrimination, except for compelling practical purposes, such as hiring only female staff to work with battered women who have sought refuge from their abusers.

"It covers 'Transgender' fairly well"

The WA CAN and DID solve it for me.

Clover shook her head, clearly not understanding why this ambassador was being so silly "You do realize that there is nothing preventing your government from passing a domestic law that clarifies and guarantees these rights, correct? If that is some sort of hindrance to you, then I would suggest there is more issue in your nation than this repeal"

[The Sotoan Union]

Maybe very pedantic but LGBT isn't just the rights of same sex couples. It also includes the rights of transgendered who may not identify as male or female. The last sentence says that this repeal does not give countries the right to discriminate against same sex couples, but what about transgender couples?

"CoCR, Article 1, section 3:"

c ) All inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, language, economic or cultural background, physical or mental disability or condition, religion or belief system, sexual orientation or sexual identity, or any other arbitrarily assigned and reductive categorisation which may be used for the purposes of discrimination, except for compelling practical purposes, such as hiring only female staff to work with battered women who have sought refuge from their abusers.

"It covers 'Transgender' fairly well"

It's repealing that act. Transgender rights are not protected if the document protecting them is repealed, and the document repealing it does not specify that they are still protected.

[Normlpeople]

"CoCR, Article 1, section 3:"

c ) All inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, language, economic or cultural background, physical or mental disability or condition, religion or belief system, sexual orientation or sexual identity, or any other arbitrarily assigned and reductive categorisation which may be used for the purposes of discrimination, except for compelling practical purposes, such as hiring only female staff to work with battered women who have sought refuge from their abusers.

"It covers 'Transgender' fairly well"

It's repealing that act. Transgender rights are not protected if the document protecting them is repealed, and the document repealing it does not specify that they are still protected.

"Perhaps you are mistaken. The act being repealed is the 'Freedom of Marriage Act', not the 'Charter of Civil Rights', which is where that passage was taken from"

[The Sotoan Union]

It's repealing that act. Transgender rights are not protected if the document protecting them is repealed, and the document repealing it does not specify that they are still protected.

"Perhaps you are mistaken. The act being repealed is the 'Freedom of Marriage Act', not the 'Charter of Civil Rights', which is where that passage was taken from"

Alright.

Does that then make the last sentence protecting same sex couples redundant though?

[Normlpeople]

"Perhaps you are mistaken. The act being repealed is the 'Freedom of Marriage Act', not the 'Charter of Civil Rights', which is where that passage was taken from"

Alright.

Does that then make the last sentence protecting same sex couples redundant though?

"Absolutely it does. That just clarifies that such marriages are still protected, as to silence the 'you're being anti-gay' crowd that would chime in otherwise. Kind of like the ambassador from Burnination has already tried to do."

[The Sotoan Union]

Alright.

Does that then make the last sentence protecting same sex couples redundant though?

"Absolutely it does. That just clarifies that such marriages are still protected, as to silence the 'you're being anti-gay' crowd that would chime in otherwise. Kind of like the ambassador from Burnination has already tried to do."

I would have just specified that it protects LGBT couples, but again super pedantic.

[Hirota]

I can't support this repeal whilst it's supported by someone such as the ambassador from South Sahahra, I'm concerned that I'd become stupider through some kind of osmosis by association.

Abstain.

[Normlpeople]

I can't support this repeal whilst it's supported by someone such as the ambassador from South Sahahra, I'm concerned that I'd become stupider through some kind of osmosis by association.

Abstain.

"Unfortunately, such people do exist. Best to just ignore said existence. After all, this repeal brings out all sorts of backward, offensive and silly nations to support. We can take comfort in knowing that the goal they seek will be blocked by the CoCR.

As far as stupidity, I'm not sure its transferable by association alone. Besides, those of us who voluntarily serve as Ambassadors long-term already have some degree of stupidity... or masochistic streak."

[Railana]

((OOC: I have to say, I'm stunned that this is passing. Congrats, Kenny, you've accomplished what I never could.))

[Sionis Prioratus]

This old Nation is reminded of this.

Yours,

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Your "old nation" seems to have forgotten Charter of Civil Rights, which effectively bans all of those things you mentioned in that apocalyptic old post. But it is good to see that the Geritol has you back up and about again.

Best of wishes,

[Hirota]

You kids and your crazy definitions of old.

(Enter another older nation than mine in 3....2....1.....)

[Drewlantis]

I almost didn't want to post because I am not older than Hirota and I didn't want to break the streak, but...

I can't support this repeal whilst it's supported by someone such as the ambassador from South Sahahra, I'm concerned that I'd become stupider through some kind of osmosis by association.

Abstain.

"Or perhaps the Ambassador may become more intelligent by association with you?.. I like to look at the positives."

"As for the repeal itself.." Ambassador Burgenheimer peruses the legislation... "Looks ship shape to me, perhaps I'm biased though, because I didn't like the bill in the first place."

[Hirota]

I almost didn't want to post because I am not older than Hirota and I didn't want to break the streak, but...

I was mocking the fact that supposedly being an old nation means anything. Appeal To False Authority, I think.

[Socialist Assembly Marxists]

Abstain.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

[Jack Riley rises to seek recognition.]

Ladies and gentlemen of the World Assembly, I'd like to thank you for your patience during my unfortunate tardiness. Apparently one of the transports in the lobby portal banks malfunctioned and instead of sending me home, it brought me to this bizarre country called "Defwa," where women seeking abortion are brought to delivery rooms to have their pregnancies "terminated," and school children are taught to look for the hidden text in books, to find out what the author really meant when he wrote, "See Spot run." But on the plus side, not a speck of space junk in the wide night sky! What a resourceful, ecologically minded people!

But I'm here now, and I appreciate this opportunity to present our delegation's repeal of the Freedom of Marriage Act. If the Assembly will allow me, I do have a short video presentation to show you, which should help allay any concerns about our motives in repealing a law that (purportedly) protects marriage equality.

[The lights dim as the massive projection screen lowers in front of the dais at the front of the chamber, as the secretary slips a DVD into a digital projector. Sappy music begins to play whilst on the screen some stock footage from the frozen oasis of Omigodtheykilledkenny is shown, and a deep, soothing male voice narrates:]

"Our land may be far removed from most countries of the world. We are separated by vast oceans, continents, deep language and cultural divides, religious differences -- our jihadists are actually Christians...

"But at the World Assembly, we all share common goals. A concern for quality legislation..."

[cut to Susa laughing his ass off while introducing an illegal repeal in 2007]

"A mind for human rights..."

[cut to shot of Kennyites pointing and laughing at non-human species speaking in the GA]

"Recognizing the need for eliminating abusive and inhumane practices such as torture..."

[several shots of Kennyites defenestrating fellow delegates and Susa kicking them in the nuts]

"But most of all, a profound interest in protecting LGBT rights..."

[shot of the Kennyite delegation lazily passing around a bottle of Sen. Sulla's Wild Turkey during the last gay-rights debate]

"We may not always see eye to eye, but our shared values and common purpose always shine through, and you always know who you can trust."

[shot of Kennyite flag flying with other national banners outside WA Headquarters]

"The people of the Federal Republic. Partners in Justice."

[Several seconds' worth of TV snow can be seen on the screen, followed by grainy footage of what appears to be a large gorilla rampaging through the Kennyite offices, while a woman operating the camera gives direction: "Now remember, Ambassador, you are the dangerous and hormonal gorilla that has escaped from his habitat, and I am the sexy zookeeper who needs to teach you a lesson you'll never forget..."

[A muffled voice coming from inside the gorilla: "Dammit, Captain, this gorilla suit is hot as fuck!"]

"Oh my God, it's one of those degenerates' home movies," observes Jimmy in disgust. "Turn it off!"

"Hang on, hang on, I'm just trying to remember what to do here," replies Riley as he fiddles with the projector.

"Turn it off!!"

"What's this thing here--oh bother--"

[A couple shots ring out and the video feed suddenly dies. Smoke is rising from the projector, as Captain Chiang lowers her 9mm.]

"Y'know, Captain, this wasn't our projector; it belongs to the Genera--"

"Oh shut up, Mr. Secretary!"

[The presiding officer bangs her gaval.]

The Federal Republic's time has expired. The chair now recognizes the delegation from the Islamic States.

[A menacing figure in a dark mask rises to address to the GA.]

Madame Secretary-General, we rise to condemn this assembly, and any such den of heathens, that would even consider this a subject worthy of debate. Any decadent body that thinks such "rights" even exist in order to be "protected" deserves the full dose of God's wrath. In fact--

[opens coat to reveal a suicide vest]

I am the servant of Almighty God, that the wicked here assembled may share in his Infinite Justice--

[An angry scream breaks out from the Kennyite delegation:]

"I'm as down with slaughtering the infidels as the next guy, but the fuck if I'm gonna let you fuckers steal my act!!!"

[Susa roars as he charges toward the Islamic States delegation, pulling out his trusty detonator as he dives straight into the middle of the masked contingent. A fantastic boom rips through the Assembly hall as the explosion wipes out the entire section of the GA where the IS diplomats once stood.

[Chiang looks up from her iPhone. "Heh. Leave it to the Islamic States to make Susa a partner in the fight against terror."]

---

Meanwhile, from the safety of the green room in the Kennyite office suite, a closet door opens and a swirling vortex inside spits Susa out before slamming door shut again.

The Xt'Tap sputters as he climbs up from the floor, blanketed in soot.

Jimmy, who had retreated from the Assembly hall during the commotion, looks on with bemusement. "Leave it to the Defense Department to steal Wolf-Guardian technology and develop simulated-suicide vests! How many simulated deaths does this make, Susa?"

"Shut the fuck up."

[The Eternal Kawaii]

The Kawaiian Nuncia sighs at the all-too-typical display of Kennyite crassness, and gives a slow clap. Taking the dais in her turn, she clears her throat and says,

"In the Name of the Eternal Kawaii, may the Cute One be praised.

"We shall be abstaining on this vote, as we have no particular interest in commenting on the heathen practices it so proudly discusses. We only note the irony, considering the last two votes of this chamber--votes that clearly indicate that the World Assembly believes prosecution of crimes against humanity should be left to the individual nation. A bold statement in support of NatSov, indeed. However, when it comes to respect for an individual nation's cultural values--such as their marriage customs--where is this bold NatSov attitude to be found?

"We can only conclude that passing judgment over national cultures is more important to this chamber than the prosecution of war criminals. What does this say about the seriousness of the World Assembly?"

[RNMC]

We here will not recognize any marriage that is not one man and one Woman period no matter what any act, bill or law gets passed in the WA. It will still be illegal here no matter what.

[Mousebumples]

I suppose we will. She may decide to stomp just because she's still mad about my RF repeal, but I don't recall her having any passionate feelings about FOMA one way or the other.

At any rate she hasn't responded to any of my messages, so I'm gonna have to watch from the cheap seats like the rest of you guys.

If you sent me any messages on this one, I never got them, so I'm not sure where you're sending them.

Anyhow, the region is currently deadlocked on this one (I personally abstained since I'm rather meh on the subject of this repeal), so I haven't voted. Might change over the remainder of the vote, but I think you've got this repeal safely in hand.

[The Dark Star Republic]

"We have decided to support this.

"Our main reservation was that we don't like The Charter on Civil Rights, and this repeal will surely bolster support for it, but the chances of it being repealed anyway are slim, while this repeal makes an obvious straightforward argument. So, good luck to its proponents."

~ Vice-Colonel Truculent Bilgewater
Ambassador to the WA

[Defwa]

We here will not recognize any marriage that is not one man and one Woman period no matter what any act, bill or law gets passed in the WA. It will still be illegal here no matter what.

Well that's nice. So why are you a member of this assembly?
You know we mandate free abortion here too.

[Separatist Peoples]

We here will not recognize any marriage that is not one man and one Woman period no matter what any act, bill or law gets passed in the WA. It will still be illegal here no matter what.

"It shocks me that nations that refuse to follow WA law, yet remain members, expect any kind of sympathy or special consideration by those nations who do follow the law."

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

We here will not recognize any marriage that is not one man and one Woman period no matter what any act, bill or law gets passed in the WA. It will still be illegal here no matter what.

Well that's nice. So why are you a member of this assembly?
You know we mandate free abortion here too.

We mandate subsidized abortion now??

[The Dark Star Republic]

Well that's nice. So why are you a member of this assembly?
You know we mandate free abortion here too.

We mandate subsidized abortion now??

Depends how you interpret Quality in Health Services, I suppose:

5) Nations or any assigned political divisions shall retain full freedom to:
...
b) Provide assistance only to those who cannot afford to pay for their own care, if compelling practical purposes for such a policy can be proven beyond any doubt.

Always hated that resolution.