[DEFEATED] Biological Weapons Accord

[Bergnovinaia]

The dithering over agents, microbes, and organisms is a nonissue; in this the Snefaldian government agrees with the Glen-Rhodesian position.

The focus must necessarily be on the incorrect grammar, the needlessly wordy phrasing, and the fatal flaw in exceptions allowed for defense condition. That the author is slowly realizing this is just another reason to start over entirely.

N. Taranton
etc.

Who says that high 'DEFCON' definitely provides exceptions? The committe has to take it into account, sure, but on the other paw they could well decide that (higher DEFCON) = (higher chance of enemy action breaching the weapon-stocks containment & releasing them into the environment) and say that being at a high DEFCON therefore makes disposing of the bio-weapon arsenals safely more urgent rather than less...


^_^


On the author's request and at the request of the Region that this Mission represents (as well as representing our own homeland, of course...) here, I will now withdraw the vote that I previously cast in favour of this proposal.
However I do not smell any need for a MAJOR re-write before a new draft is submitted, just a change in the initial definition of bio-weapons so that people [hopefully] cannot argue that it requires nations to eliminate 'wild' germs as part of their compliance and a tightening-up of the committee's scope with regard to clause #8...

Perhaos some sort a WA member sanity resolution should go into effect before this passes.

[Snefaldia]

Who says that high 'DEFCON' definitely provides exceptions? The committee has to take it into account, sure, but on the other paw they could well decide that (higher DEFCON) = (higher chance of enemy action breaching the weapon-stocks containment & releasing them into the environment) and say that being at a high DEFCON therefore makes disposing of the bio-weapon arsenals safely more urgent rather than less...

The States-Federation does not feel that the any national security or defense considerations are acceptable reasons for a WA committee to delay the disarmament of biological weapons stocks. Similarly, many nations do not use DEFCON ratings (Snefaldia among them), and it is therefore pointless to add a non-universal metric into the committee's equations.

Although it is true that the committee does not need to give defense condition more consideration, we feel that it is highly unnecessary.

N. Taranton
etc.

[Lanvaldear]

I fully support the this.

[Niskepe]

how do i approve a proposal?

[Flibbleites]

how do i approve a proposal?

You read the FAQ.

[Corumm]

You people just don't give up with these anti biological weapons resolutions huh
Against.

[Bergnovinaia]

You people just don't give up with these anti biological weapons resolutions huh
Against.

And we aren't going to give up, ambassador. Our nation, even as the authoring nation, is opposed to this legislation based on all of the errors and such, but we plan on working with ambassadors from all sides of the aisle on passing a stroger, firm, Bio-Weapons resolution.

[The nine cities]

You people just don't give up with these anti biological weapons resolutions huh
Against.

And we aren't going to give up, ambassador. Our nation, even as the authoring nation, is opposed to this legislation based on all of the errors and such, but we plan on working with ambassadors from all sides of the aisle on passing a stroger, firm, Bio-Weapons resolution.

So this is practically a waste of everyone's time?

Surely you should have proofread the entire piece.

[Bergnovinaia]

And we aren't going to give up, ambassador. Our nation, even as the authoring nation, is opposed to this legislation based on all of the errors and such, but we plan on working with ambassadors from all sides of the aisle on passing a stroger, firm, Bio-Weapons resolution.

So this is practically a waste of everyone's time?

Surely you should have proofread the entire piece.

Ambassador, working on drafting, proposing, and queuing a piece of legislation, and then get back to me. M'kay?

Yes, I proofread it. Typically, when you read your own work, you don't catch minor details that need to be changed. And no, this serves as just a warm-up for what will be the big enchilda.

[F3reedonias]

F3reedonias
Greetings to the World Assembly from F3reedonia.
The free peoples of F3reedonias have, by consensus, endorsed the following:

Our objection to this resolution is the mention of 'allow' with respect to 'peaceful' purposes.

The free people of F3reedonias would respectfully remind the World Assembly that we all have experience (and that some living F3reedonians have some personal experience) with experimentation of 'biological agents' (peaceful or otherwise).

Further, F3reedonians would respectfully remind the World Assembly that our (that is 'the world at large', including, but not limited to, the World Assembly nations) have ample evidence that the term 'control' can only be used loosely with respect to biological weapons. Several instances of unexpected mutation can be found in (all but the most repressive and censored) records.

F3reedonias strongly objects to the notion that the World Assembly would not have much stronger language with respect to monitoring activity in biologic agents (peaceful or otherwise), and encourages an amendment that member nations submit to open audits by an assembly of experts (including specialists in biology, genetics, chemistry, geology, paleontology and inorganic chemistry).
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Further, F3reedonias begs that this proposal be contingent on a resolution to create a monitoring body with authority (F3reedonias would include physical force to enforce compliance within the World Assembly and sanctions for those groups outside the assembly).
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F3reedonias is willing to provide financial and man-power to help support a monitoring body; we are willing to develop training, or support World Assembly institutions that would provide training is said expertise.

Finally, F3reedonias want to formally thank "Bergonovinaia" for it's perseverance in this matter.
F3reedonias disagrees with "The nine cities" with respect to the idea that the proposal, as presented is a "waste of time'.

Sincerely,
representing the consensus of the free peoples of F3reedonias:

Alfred27 (of Evony server 131)

[Snefaldia]

OOC: I understand that BBcode is very exciting, but is it completely necessary to link your NS page in every line of text?

[The nine cities]

Well to me if the author themselves are voting against it and citied errors in the legislation, I would consider that having a vote on the said piece of legislation a waste of time. I am not saying the purpose is a waste of time just this current piece. Surely, it should have been checked before proposed?

Well if the legislation is improved, I would be happy to look at it.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Unfortunately Ms. Harper has had to turn down the current revision because the current wording is causing unintentional effects in regards to experimentation. I think this is the problem when rushing proposals.

[Hittanryan]

You people just don't give up with these anti biological weapons resolutions huh
Against.

You people just don't give up supporting a weapon with limited effectiveness against military targets that disproportionately impacts civilian targets huh?
For.

[Scandavian States]

Further, F3reedonias begs that this proposal be contingent on a resolution to create a monitoring body with authority (F3reedonias would include physical force to enforce compliance within the World Assembly and sanctions for those groups outside the assembly).

[This is so illegal it's not even funny. First, it falls afoul of the no armed forces/police clause of GAR #1. Second, resolutions cannot effect members outside of the WA. Also, good luck trying to enter a restricted military facility without clearance to do so; any nation that is conducting research despite the resolution will simply do so in the blackest of R&D facilities and any attempt to receive clearance to enter will simply receive a reply along the lines of, "We are a member of the WA and as such we comply with all resolutions that are in force, but we will be glad to issue a security clearance to any facilities that are allowed to receive visitors. Please note that this does not include any facilities that conduct advanced R&D for military purposes and most certainly excludes any facilities for the manufacture, storage, or staging of nuclear and chemical weapons."

That's pretty much SOP for any nation whose leaders aren't soft in the head, so that statement isn't particularly evasive and is outwardly very accommodating. From an RP perspective, any WA nation that is determined to violate such a resolution will do so and make it as difficult as possible for anybody to discover that fact. Further, nobody who has bio-weapons will blithely use them, they are a most exceptional weapons of last resort.]

[Reasogic]

As a country opposed to unnecessary conflict, you have our support.

[BobChua]

Forgive me for being so bold, but shouldn't this be a security council issue?

[Astrolinium]

Forgive me for being so bold, but shouldn't this be a security council issue?

The Security Council can only commend, condemn, and liberate. It's not so much "Security" as "Puerile Whining", I'll admit, but there it is.

[Morlago]

Forgive me for being so bold, but shouldn't this be a security council issue?

The Security Council can only commend, condemn, and liberate. It's not so much "Security" as "Puerile Whining", I'll admit, but there it is.

[Ryouese Black Islands]

The Ryouese celebrate the defeat of the BWA

[Philimbesi]

Further, F3reedonias begs that this proposal be contingent on a resolution to create a monitoring body with authority (F3reedonias would include physical force to enforce compliance within the World Assembly and sanctions for those groups outside the assembly).

We quake with fear.

[Bergnovinaia]

The Ryouese celebrate the defeat of the BWA

If you read the earlier posts, do realize, it will be back, and with bi-partisan support.

[Bears Armed]

Further, F3reedonias begs that this proposal be contingent on a resolution to create a monitoring body with authority (F3reedonias would include physical force to enforce compliance within the World Assembly and sanctions for those groups outside the assembly).

Maybe you should read the rules about writing proposals before you comment again.

[Scandavian States]

If you read the earlier posts, do realize, it will be back, and with bi-partisan support.

[Mayhap, but focused solely on biological weapons and no trying an end-around on chemical weapons. My personal preference is for a full ban on Chimera viruses and viruses that target foodstock, but only strict limitations on the size of natural virus stocks.]

[Aetrina]

The Kingdom of Aetrina has softened it's position somewhat on this matter. While we still hold as our sovereign right to manufacture and distribute biological weapons for our defense, we understand the fear in which some nations hold these weapons. We also understand the devastating effects these weapons could have on civilian targets. (The Kingdom of Aetrina is currently exploring the issue of differentiating between "military" and "civilian" targets.) While we are for the moment glad to see this resolution defeated, we look forward to the debate on the next draft of this.