What is the main military weapon of your country?

[Questers]

Unfortunately New Nickysllvania's didn't come out too good

Also see new version of FGR that I keep fucking redrawing

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 21734a.png

[Amastol]

Oh man... not another chart! Now I'm going to want to draw a Battle Rifle T_T

[Wolohanistan]

Unfortunately New Nickysllvania's didn't come out too good

Also see new version of FGR that I keep fucking redrawing

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 21734a.png

Thanks for including the Mk.1

How many variants of the FGR have you drawn?

[Indeos]

Sweet battle rifle.

Thanks, that means alot coming from you. Your line art's amazing!

Here's that paratrooper carbine version.

It might just be me, but that grip looks like the one on the SPAS-12.

[Questers]

Unfortunately New Nickysllvania's didn't come out too good

Also see new version of FGR that I keep fucking redrawing

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 21734a.png

Thanks for including the Mk.1

How many variants of the FGR have you drawn?

Np. Dozens... they all look different because I haven't yet standardised what I want as the receiver. I might redraw it in a non-pixel art form (with antialiasing, basically.)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 7ac9ac.png here are some mods of an older version

Amastol: DO IT

[ChaosPetra]

The army uses this rifle.

Snipers use this rifle.



Either way, we have super soldiers. XD

Melee weapons for armed forces:



and for dress purposes.

[Senestrum]

Np. Dozens... they all look different because I haven't yet standardised what I want as the receiver. I might redraw it in a non-pixel art form (with antialiasing, basically.)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 7ac9ac.png here are some mods of an older version

Amastol: DO IT

i like how the magazine on the farmer's version is put in backwards

[Questers]

Np. Dozens... they all look different because I haven't yet standardised what I want as the receiver. I might redraw it in a non-pixel art form (with antialiasing, basically.)

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd17 ... 7ac9ac.png here are some mods of an older version

Amastol: DO IT

i like how the magazine on the farmer's version is put in backwards

It's just canted differently :/

[Old Beringia]

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I'm going to metaphorically cry if I see another pseudo commie nation or someone that uses AK47's because it's the only shitty rifle they know of.

[Reformed Britannia]

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I'm going to metaphorically cry if I see another pseudo commie nation or someone that uses AK47's because it's the only shitty rifle they know of.

Well, if you're looking to equip a huge conscripted horde of cannon fodder soldiers like many pseudo-commie nations are, the AK seems like a fairly good option

[Senestrum]

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I'm going to metaphorically cry if I see another pseudo commie nation or someone that uses AK47's because it's the only shitty rifle they know of.

Well, if you're looking to equip a huge conscripted horde of cannon fodder soldiers like many pseudo-commie nations are, the AK seems like a fairly good option

Nah, this is NS.

Go with the doomani ACOM.

[Dexxxtopia]

We of Dexxxtopia have one, awesome, major, ph3r3some weapon....aside from our great leader, Dex, himself, who killed the zombies and praised Jesus in our great rocktopia! Our great leaders prowess is shown in this undisputable example of manly testosterone actions!

However, when Dex is too busy making the sexy to his multiple wives, and their sisters, we have a second, more sinister weapon with which to baffle and befuddle our foes...a vault of deep, dark secrets nations wish all would forget. An unholy tomb filled with the refuse of bygone eras, mythical threads long abandoned, and unfortunate maps of former nations

The party responsible for making this is involved in this thread...you know who you are....and we remember...we always remember...

Check and mate, sir.

[Transnapastain]

The army uses this rifle.

Snipers use this rifle.



Either way, we have super soldiers. XD

Melee weapons for armed forces:



and for dress purposes.

So, why do you need 4 different sniper rifles...especially since those aren't even all the same rifle.

[Amerikians]

... @ Shitty Commie-Nations

-The Ukrainian SSR- utilizes human wave and can STILL afford AK-101s. =\

[New Federation China]

Identical to the PRC until I get creative; though I do express interest in Belorussia's modern StG-44.

[King Maxwell]

Our Main Assault Rifle is The M-468


Our Main Battle Rifle is the Scar-H


Our Main Pisols is the USP .45


Our Main Machine Pistol is the PP2000


Our Main Sniper Rifle is The Barret M-107


Our Main SMG is the MP-7

[Khytenna]

Added some examples to the grouping of weapons.

1. AK-47: Most nations that use it are either LOL we use communist weapons, armies that rely on sheer numbers, poor nations, or stupid people that think that the AK-47 is the best, and give it to everyone, including elite special forces that they spend a decade training. Despite the name I gave this category, it includes any weapon from before 1950 that is not chambered in a round with over 3,500 J muzzle energy.
AK-47 (USSR)
STG 44 (Nazi Germany)

2. LOL HUGE BATTLE RIFLES: Battle rifles like the ISR-Mk IV, and the FN Rougecote FGR. They are chambered in oversized rounds usually due to megalomania, or compensation issues.
ISR-MkIV (New Nicksyllvania)
BR-95 (Anglo-Saxon Empire)
FN Rougecote FGR (Questers)

3. LOL FUTURE MODERN WEAPONZ: I added the Z because Zs are cooler than Ses. Weapons the are top of the line, caseless ammo, BARS, fancy optics, the works. They are generally issued by very disciplined, well equipped militaries, or militaries that like to waste money on guns that cost as much as a new car or a 42 in plasma screen TV.
R2 (Vault 10)
LY20 HILAR (Lyras)

4. Modern weapons: They use modern weapons, that actually exist, or NS weapons that cost less than $2,500. Issued by normal armies, they are generally good enough, often chambered in any round between 5.45x39mm to 7.62x54mm. The nations that use these guns are boring, but probably have more effective soldiers for the cost to equip them than any of the above examples except for the AK-47 users.
AY-144 (Yanitaria)
G-36 (Germany)

looks like im in group 4, i didn't think i was that boring....

[Deltania X]

In wich groups are my weapons

What are your weapons in the first place?

I'd say mine are probably category #4, although I export the Marks-Enfield Mk.IV for 2,600 NSD so it would go over the 2,500 limit...

my weapons are:mp 74,m-25 avanger,m 27 stalker and one shotgun

[Sharfghotten]

So, why do you need 4 different sniper rifles...especially since those aren't even all the same rifle.

AFAIK those are all Warsaw Pact variants of the Dragunov SVD.

But agreed, he only needs one model.

... @ Shitty Commie-Nations

-The Ukrainian SSR- utilizes human wave and can STILL afford AK-101s. =\

So? If someone wants to RP with AK-47's, then let them.

And just so you know, the AK-101 is not much more than a rechambered '74 that fires 5.56 NATO and has plastic furniture.

[Transnapastain]

So, why do you need 4 different sniper rifles...especially since those aren't even all the same rifle.

AFAIK those are all Warsaw Pact variants of the Dragunov SVD.

But agreed, he only needs one model.

You are correct. One and Two are SVD's. Three looks more like an accurized AK (laugh) than an SVD.Note the gas tube being present above the hand guard, its not there on the SVD. Though, the way the gas tube looks elongated to me, kind of, I want to say its a Czech Vz.58, but I really don't think that's right, because I'm not aware of their being an extended version of that rifle, 4 is, indeed a variant of the SVD, I'm pretty sure its the Romanian PSL-54C 7.62x54R Rifle. The gas tube is, indeed, located above the handguard like on the AK on that rifle.

[Deltania X]

[quote="ChaosPetra";p="2756628"]

The army uses this rifle.

Snipers use this rifle.



Either way, we have super soldiers. XD


why do you need 4 sniper rifles

[The 44th Indp Legion]

The 44th Independent Legion's primary armnament is the mk.VII Poison Needle Gun, affectionally known as the pennygun. For logistical reasons the poison needles it was designed to shoot are no longer available to ordinary troopers who instead fire slightly less subtle ammunition, in the form of 3" iron spikes at medium velocity.
The appearance of the pennygun is quite variable and what it really looks like is often disputed, but for your pleasure, here is an image that looks quite like it.

What does NGD-7 stand for?

NGD-7 is the designation of the zone to which it is issued

[Vault 10]

Yes, I think the sniper rifle variant costs $110,000.

Scout Sniper variant, probably, I haven't seen it's price yet. L3 doesn't need a Scout Sniper based on the R2, and I'm too lazy to purchase DPRs for it.
Ungodly expensive rifle is ungodly expensive (and PMT).

Actually the Scout is "only" $30k-$40k depending on the package, which is about 2-4 times more than high-end sniper rifles IRL (Arctic Warfare, M110, M200), in their deployment packages. But, then, its specs are also much closer to just sufficient rather than extreme, the main advantage there is being much lighter and easier to carry.

I see how it could be considered PMT, and I guess it depends on the definitions. It certainly isn't strict-MT. But then, neither are many, many other things used in NS MT - pretty much all "super" body armor designs, most NS stealth fighters, pretty much all NS tanks (usually based on Nakil, which Mac himself always said to be PMT).
Since I don't wank up any technologies that don't exist IRL or are at very low readiness levels, by the broad definition of high-MT that includes the aforementioned, I consider it to fit in. By the stricter definition it doesn't. Every aspect of the design is explained, and you can see that some complicated - but modern - technologies are used to keep the weight at bay, although it's still a bit heavier than average. A side effect of using these technologies is cost; it's not doable on the cheap, but it's doable.


As to whether more complicated technology can make things lighter in the same timeframe, here's an example from the real life. A typical netbook with a 10.1" screen and very basic specs costs $300-$400 and weighs between 1.10 and 1.4 kilograms. Sony Vaio X is smaller (as wide and much thinner), but packs in a 11.1" screen, higher specs, and weighs just 0.75 kg; however, it costs $1,500. On the next level, the Vaio Z packs in a 13" 1080p screen, Core i7 CPU, fast RAM and storage, specs of a desktop or a heavy DTR all around, yet netbook-like battery life - while weighing only 1.4kg like a netbook, all yours for just $5,000.

[Solyhniya]

My GV-10 makes the FGR look like an FNC

Really? Do you have stats/pic? FGR is supposed to fire a 8 x 63mm round, I'm not sure you would want to go any larger in an infantry weapon to be honest!

My harddisk just died but the stats are somewhere in this lolhueg thread. In fact...

Speaking of bad-ass rifle rounds...

GV-10 (Gever Vlasjuka Desjat')
ҐВ-10 (Ґевер Власюка Десять)


GV-10: Standard designated marksman rifle, equipped with telescopic sight


GKV: carbine ("karabyn") variant with foregrip, holographic sight and close-quarters flash suppressor


GKV with SG-40 underslung grenade launcher

(Note: there is also a dedicated sniper variant used by law enforcement and other outside agencies and also available for international sales.)

GV-10
Calibre: 8.1x64mm
Action: balanced gas operating system (BARS)
Fire rate: 600rpm
Maximum effective range: 2000m
Length: (OOC: am yet to calculate)
Weight: 4.5kg

The ballistic engineer Borys Vlasjuk's "gewehr" series (the word for having been borrowed from German and adapted to a refer to large calibre in the Solyhniyan language) was created as a means to offer the controllable portability and utilisation of a large calibre anti-armour round to infantry marksmen in order to cope with the increasing effectiveness of personal bullet resistant solutions through the use of a balanced anti-recoil system to combat muzzle climb.

However, previous prototypes featured in the GV series have been found lacking in certain key areas. The GV-9 - whilst in many respects a formidable and reliable platform - was found to have a BARS system that barely began to cope with the hefty recoil of the 7.98 round. Moreover, automatic fire with or without an improved version of this system in place would be impossible for an operator in standing or crouched positions.

The GV-10 accounts for these issues: the balanced gas system has been more realistically calibrated after a number of extensive trials. To facilitate automatic fire, an ingenious spring-bound, shock-absorbing stock was designed to vastly decrease recoil momentum, with a folding version developed for the GKV variant.

[will finish write-up when I get the time]

A lot of this stuff needs redoing (I've since made a better GL) but my harddisk died and I have lost the code, so I'll probably have to start anew.

P.S. I was more talking about the size; your rifle genuinely looks FN-ish, where as mine looks WTF-ish and would probably be heavier.

[Dimoniquid]

Code: Select all

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^^Boom. Whadda we think? And Solyhniya, do you need your lolhuge code?