Welfare States

[Genivar]

This topic is about Social Democracies. Also called by conservatives as a Welfare State *gasp*.
What do you think of them? Does higher taxation= higher standard of living and is it worth it?

[Mad hatters in jeans]

can't...stop....looking....at.....OPs......flag

[Ashmoria]

seems like an excellent thing to me.

like anything else im sure it needs to be tweaked now and then to keep people from taking unfair advantage or to make sure that the people on the bottom dont sink too low.

[Genivar]

can't...stop....looking....at.....OPs......flag

What about it?

[St George of England]

This topic is about Social Democracies. Also called by conservatives as a Welfare State *gasp*.
What do you think of them? Does higher taxation= higher standard of living and is it worth it?

Welfare state does not equal Social Democracy.

[Sibirsky]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

[St George of England]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

This, too.

[Wikkiwallana]

Higher taxation doesn't equal higher standard of living, more services equals higher standard of living and requires higher taxes to support them. And from my point of views it's worth it.

[Genivar]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare%27 ... on_poverty

[The Massive Empire]

I approve of higher living standards.

[Langorham]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare%27 ... on_poverty

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0597f.asp

Welfare is a safety net which provides for the needs of the poor. Welfare is necessary to bring fairness to American economic life. It is a device for protecting the poor.

Opportunities should be provided to make it possible for those in need to become self-reliant. It is far more compassionate and effective to encourage people to become self-reliant, rather than allowing them to remain dependent on the government for provisions.

You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themsleves

[French Union]

I'm for it. Why work if you can have others work for you?

[Jello Biafra]

If we must have capitalism, then it should take the form of a welfare state.

[Georgism]

I like it.

[Genivar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare%27 ... on_poverty

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0597f.asp

Welfare is a safety net which provides for the needs of the poor. Welfare is necessary to bring fairness to American economic life. It is a device for protecting the poor.

Opportunities should be provided to make it possible for those in need to become self-reliant. It is far more compassionate and effective to encourage people to become self-reliant, rather than allowing them to remain dependent on the government for provisions.

You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themsleves

Agreed. I think Jesse Ventura said it best, *Welfare was meant as a safety net, not a hammock*

[Sibirsky]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare%27 ... on_poverty

North Korea and Cuba are welfare states

[Sibirsky]

I like it.

Commie

[Sibirsky]

Agreed. I think Jesse Ventura said it best, *Welfare was meant as a safety net, not a hammock*

Aye. What would you consider a "safety net" and what would you consider a "hammock"?

[Genivar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare%27 ... on_poverty

North Korea and Cuba are welfare states

Hardly.

I like it.

Commie

Fascist.

[Grave_n_idle]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

It does if it's your alternative to starving in a box.

*nods*

[Georgism]

I like it.

Commie

You got me

[Sibirsky]

North Korea and Cuba are welfare states

Hardly.

How so?


Fascist.

Does not compute

[Genivar]

Agreed. I think Jesse Ventura said it best, *Welfare was meant as a safety net, not a hammock*

Aye. What would you consider a "safety net" and what would you consider a "hammock"?

As I said before, I think its immoral for people to have to pay simply to exist. they should be guaranteed a minimum standard of living and if they want more they'd have to earn it.

[Helertia]

There's a reason Nordic countries have the best standards of living in the world.

[Genivar]

Welfare state does not equal a higher standard of living.

It does if it's your alternative to starving in a box.

*nods*

Your avatar is freakin me out.