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Omigodtheykilledkenny
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:19 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
The Security Council resolution "Commend 10000 Islands" was passed 3,482 votes to 1,330.

With the passage of the resolution Ms. Harper hopes that the reinstatement of the commendation will resolve the issues once and for all. :)

It won't. The raiders are just going to repeal it again, like they did last time...or have we all forgotten that?
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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:39 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:With the passage of the resolution Ms. Harper hopes that the reinstatement of the commendation will resolve the issues once and for all. :)

It won't. The raiders are just going to repeal it again, like they did last time...or have we all forgotten that?

It was the misspelling that led to the repeal, I think.

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Metania
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Postby Metania » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:08 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:The raiders are just going to repeal it again, like they did last time...or have we all forgotten that?


Because obviously, nothing is different between then and now. Maybe the 3WB will block it too, since history will automatically repeat itself whenever possible.

I better watch out for incoming Max Barry Days too! :eek:
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Postby Unibot » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:16 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:With the passage of the resolution Ms. Harper hopes that the reinstatement of the commendation will resolve the issues once and for all. :)

It won't. The raiders are just going to repeal it again, like they did last time...or have we all forgotten that?


*cough* *cough*

You do realize who has the most endorsements in NationStates is... right?

And secondly, if we avoid commending truly deserving nominees because of the resistance that it would inspire from those who oppose peace and goodwill -- we've already lost the battle.
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A mean old man
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Postby A mean old man » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:36 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:With the passage of the resolution Ms. Harper hopes that the reinstatement of the commendation will resolve the issues once and for all. :)

It won't. The raiders are just going to repeal it again, like they did last time...or have we all forgotten that?

No, we have not forgotten about that. Actually, it was because of the repeal that a better verson of the original resolution was created, finished, and passed. You seem to think it will be just as easy for a nation such as Aegara to create some minimally developed repeal like they did last time and knock this resolution down again simply out of their personal hatred for 10kI and its detrimental effect on their ability to carry out raids; you're mistaken. Aegara was prolonging the inevitable with that repeal.
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A: SC#16 - Repeal "Liberate The Security Council"
A: SC#26 - Commend The Joint Systems Alliance
A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
A: SC#37 - Condemn NAZI EUROPE
A: SC#38 - Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE"
A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
C: SC#84 - Repeal "Liberate Islam"
C: SC#111 - Commend Krulltopia ← please forget

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Postby Ardchoille » Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:40 pm

Guys, guys, it's Tomorrow When The War Began*, no? So fight tomorrow's battles tomorrow.

Regardless of your various personal opinions, you could at least note that this resolution is a big improvement on the previous version.

*shameless plug for good new Australian film.
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Postby Socialist EU » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:45 am

Ardchoille wrote:Guys, guys, it's Tomorrow When The War Began*, no? So fight tomorrow's battles tomorrow.

Regardless of your various personal opinions, you could at least note that this resolution is a big improvement on the previous version.

*shameless plug for good new Australian film.


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Postby Ananke II » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:19 am

Since the vote is over, I hope it's ok for me to post here. Socialist EU was kicked from 10k because his constant rants on our RMB about everything in 10ki was getting to sound like a broken record + he kept critizising strawmen. Grub, as founder, does play an active role in 10ki and has a lot of influence. I'm sure there's lots of regions in Nationstates, whose founders play a more restricted role in regional life, but Grub's involvement in 10ki is part of what's kept us going and stable for so many years. I'd think most 10ki people know how the region works and they don't mind. Those who prefer some other kind of regional set-up tend to move on after a while, which is fine. We're not going to change how our region works just because a new nation once in a while think we're doing it all wrong. Especially not when said person won't listen to our explanations for why we like or don't mind the way 10ki functions. It doesn't mean that we always agree on stuff. Grub and I tend to get into huge arguments about things every so often, but I still managed to become delegate of 10ki, so he clearly isn't as authoritarian as some people think. ;)

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Postby Socialist EU » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:34 pm

Ananke II wrote:Since the vote is over, I hope it's ok for me to post here. Socialist EU was kicked from 10k because his constant rants on our RMB about everything in 10ki was getting to sound like a broken record + he kept critizising strawmen. Grub, as founder, does play an active role in 10ki and has a lot of influence. I'm sure there's lots of regions in Nationstates, whose founders play a more restricted role in regional life, but Grub's involvement in 10ki is part of what's kept us going and stable for so many years. I'd think most 10ki people know how the region works and they don't mind. Those who prefer some other kind of regional set-up tend to move on after a while, which is fine. We're not going to change how our region works just because a new nation once in a while think we're doing it all wrong. Especially not when said person won't listen to our explanations for why we like or don't mind the way 10ki functions. It doesn't mean that we always agree on stuff. Grub and I tend to get into huge arguments about things every so often, but I still managed to become delegate of 10ki, so he clearly isn't as authoritarian as some people think. ;)


Well hello Ananke II, I'm not really sure who these strawmen are. And I see another nation has been ejected and banned recently for quite likely a petty reason.

And yes I'm sure yourself and Grumpy Grub do have arguments but get away with it because of your charm and muffins no doubt. :meh:
The interesting thing is that I didn't know this until now. It is a sign of healthy democracy to be openly report your disagreements. How many other nations know this in the region? I would suggest a revolution is in order in 10ki. ;) Perhaps that's another level of RP to add in and of course it would have to be on a voluntary basis by the nations resident in the region. We've had raiders, it's about time we had revolutionary propagandists. :)

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Egypt:
Spontaneous protests will not produce organisation, it is more likely to lead to an oppressive clampdown! There needs to be a long-term strategy to build the left towards..
-mass parties of the left
-mass trade unions
-mass left-wing publications

Europe
For a United socialist Europe under democratic working class rule.
For the unity of the working class across Europe and eventually* take power.
*'Towards a communist party of the EU'

Britain
For a voluntary federated democratic republic.

Scotland
Abstain on independence referendum, Salmond wants to keep within the union!

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Ardchoille
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Postby Ardchoille » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:15 am

Ananke II wrote:Since the vote is over, I hope it's ok for me to post here. <snip>


Socialist EU wrote: <snip>Communist Greetings
The exiled SEU :eyebrow:


Well, it is sorta on-topic, and it has a gossipy fascination -- aha, so that's what they get up to behind closed doors in 10kI (not that we're listening, of course, but we couldn't help overhearing). Still, maybe, now you've both had a go, this might be a good point to stop.

Betcha the cranky bloke up the road is already calling the cops. ;)
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