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Draft: Gender Equality in Education (Feel free to discuss)

Postby Lantros (Ancient) » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:57 am

Resolution: Gender Equality in Education
Strength: Strong
Category: Civil/Human Rights
Area Effect: Education Reform

The World Assembly:

RECOGNIZES that education is fundamental in the development of not only citizens of the world, but of better, more tolerant and open human beings.

REALIZING that too often, that young women are barred from pursuing education as gender is used as a barrier to said opportunities.

DEFINING "Education/Literacy" as the achievement of at least a primary school level of learning.

APPALLED that the majority of the world's poorest and least self-sufficient citizens are women.

BELIEVES, that no female should/shall be banned or dissuaded from attaining a basic education, and the fundamental human right to continuously attempt to improve oneself.

MANDATES the following:

Section I.

1) All women shall now and always be free to enroll in and attend a school.

2) Gender is no longer a valid basis for the denial of access to education. Nor shall her creed, religion or race.

3) That said women shall be treated fairly, and the educational standards as applied to men within a Member State shall also be equally applied to women.

4) That if necessary, schools shall be constructed for women to attend if the culture of a Member State is to have them separate from males.

5) Above stated facilities (Subsection 4) must have equal facilities as with male schools.



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Postby Manticore Reborn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:57 am

Can the honorable ambassador from the Albatona Republic please explain what this proposal does that is not already covered by World Assembly Resolution #80 A Promotion of Basic Education
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:04 am

Manticore Reborn wrote:Can the honorable ambassador from the Albatona Republic please explain what this proposal does that is not already covered by World Assembly Resolution #80 A Promotion of Basic Education

Article 3 isn't covered by WAR#80. Article 1 isn't either, if you view it as opening access to education for non-citizen females.

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Postby Embolalia » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:12 am

Manticore Reborn wrote:Can the honorable ambassador from the Albatona Republic please explain what this proposal does that is not already covered by World Assembly Resolution #80 A Promotion of Basic Education

Nope. It actually does less.
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Postby Manticore Reborn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:13 am

World Assembly Resolution #80 A Promotion of Basic Education states:
1. Declares that all citizens have the right to be educated, and thus be provided with the following capabilities through some sort of variation of edification:

This doesn't specify only men. I would imagine that there are some nations out there where women are not considered citizens and I would imagine there are nations where the reverse it true. Yes, perhaps WAR#80 failed to define whom is entitled to Basic Education, but that does not make this proposal valid.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:15 am

Manticore Reborn wrote:Yes, perhaps WAR#80 failed to define whom is entitled to Basic Education, but that does not make this proposal valid.

It needs work, yes, but the idea isn't bad or contradictory.

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Postby Manticore Reborn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:18 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Manticore Reborn wrote:Yes, perhaps WAR#80 failed to define whom is entitled to Basic Education, but that does not make this proposal valid.

It needs work, yes, but the idea isn't bad or contradictory.

I think perhaps a better version of WAR#80 is needed to address its short comings. I find this proposal much to limiting in scope to be even worth this discourse we are having. I also find the author's attempt to promote equal education only for women, while noble at a first glance, to be, upon further review, discriminatory of the actual situation of individuals of all genders.
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Postby Embolalia » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:20 am

I suppose, taking a closer look at it, that a case might be made for saying 80 doesn't provide for equal standards. But if that's the case, I think the resolution would need to be reworked to be entirely toward that effect. And I think this ought to be "regardless of gender", rather than specifically women.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:37 am

I think your draft is respective of the shortcomings of GA#80, which we feel needs repealing (with a bit of a push). We feel that Glen Rhodes' draft is much better and I cannot see why it should not be a replacement, as always we invite the ambassador from Lantros to makes their ideas known for GR's replacement for which we support. We also invite the ambassador to write a repeal for GA#80 if they wish to do so.

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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:51 am

You know, when the CoCR is taken into account alongside #80, I'm fairly certain that this is covered.

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Postby Embolalia » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:00 pm

Flibbleites wrote:You know, when the CoCR is taken into account alongside #80, I'm fairly certain that this is covered.

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Article 1.

a ) All inhabitants of member states are equal in status in law and under its actions, and have the right to equal treatment and protection by the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

b ) All inhabitants of member states are entitled to rights secured to them in international law and the law of the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

c ) All inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, language, economic or cultural background, physical or mental disability or condition, religion or belief system, sexual orientation or sexual identity, or any other arbitrarily assigned and reductive categorisation which may be used for the purposes of discrimination, except for compelling practical purposes, such as hiring only female staff to work with battered women who have sought refuge from their abusers.

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:08 pm

Flibbleites wrote:You know, when the CoCR is taken into account alongside #80, I'm fairly certain that this is covered.

Not when it comes to non-citizens. WAR#80 enshrined in law the costs of teaching immigrants as a 'practical purpose' for discrimination, by actively choosing to not extend the right to education to non-citizens. I agree with Mr. Alexander, though, that this proposal is wholly inadequate in addressing that problem. The author probably didn't intend to address it, for what it's worth.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:42 pm

For the replacement, we should as always make sure it remains compatible with #35. Ms. Harper is a fully flexible delegate, observing what is definitely needed and what isn't. However she does not have a good tolerance for flaws such as that bit which unintentionally allowed discrimination.

I know the arguments for GA#80, but what about the Gypsies?

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Postby Urgench » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:45 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:You know, when the CoCR is taken into account alongside #80, I'm fairly certain that this is covered.

Not when it comes to non-citizens. WAR#80 enshrined in law the costs of teaching immigrants as a 'practical purpose' for discrimination, by actively choosing to not extend the right to education to non-citizens. I agree with Mr. Alexander, though, that this proposal is wholly inadequate in addressing that problem. The author probably didn't intend to address it, for what it's worth.

- Dr. B. Castro



A sign of further internal contradictions in WA law, since the kind of practical purpose which resolution #80 describes is not congruent with the nature of such purposes as described by the CoCR.

As to the issue of sex exclusive citizenship, that is most definitely illegal under the provisions of the CoCR, for any purpose.

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