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The Steel Fraternity
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What Does the Steel Fraternity Think of You?

Postby The Steel Fraternity » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:55 pm

OOC: The Steel Fraternity is highly judgemental, hypocritical, and self-righteous. The head of the Diplomatic Corp even more so than most. If you have a socialist or communist economy, restrict civil rights in most any way, openly support abortion, or have a government that is either non-democratic or democratic but using a system different from republicanism, the response you get will lie somewhere along an axis running from dismissiveness to outright hostility. There will probably be hollow threats of invasion or extermination. If this will offend you, don't fill out the form. Thank you.

OOC: And yes, I do know the difference between communism, socialism, liberalism, and other forms of leftism. So does the Steel Fraternity. They just don't care about the difference, and will slap the label of Communism on pretty much any economic system they don't like.

IC: Continuing our proud tradition of jumping on any bandwagon just as soon as it stops being cool, the Empire of Skorzenia and the Steel Fraternity would like to provide you with the opportunity to find out our opinion on you nation. Just fill out this form (Ripped off from Saurisia's thread and slightly modified).

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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[b]Full Nation Name:[/b]
[b]Name:[/b]

[u]Stance On:[/u]
[b]Republicanism:[/b]
[b]Anarchy:[/b]
[b]Totalitarianism:[/b]
[b]Capitalism:[/b]
[b]Communism:[/b]
[b]Socialism:[/b]
[b]Fascism:[/b]
[b]Monarchy:[/b]
[b]Abortion:[/b]
[b]Alcohol:[/b]
[b]Drugs:[/b]
[b]Homosexuality:[/b]
[b]Death Penalty:[/b]
[b]Militaries:[/b]
[b]Gun Control:[/b]
[b]Religion:[/b]
[b]Slavery:[/b]
[b]Expansionism:[/b]
[b]The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity:[/b]
[b]Racial Superiority:[/b]
[b]The Environment:[/b]
[b]What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:[/b]
[b]Universal Human Rights:[/b]
[b]What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms:[/b]
[b]Universal Individual Freedom:[/b]
[b]SCIENCE!:[/b]
[b]Education:[/b]
[b]Industry:[/b]


Edit: Because some people have been confused:
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights = What do you believe to be the basic rights of every human being? Property? Self-ownership? A government teat? Nothing?
Universal Human Rights = How you interact with other nations on the basis of human rights. Do you insist that everyone follow the same ones your government recognizes? Are you cool so long as they're in the same ballpark? How do you react if you feel another government is not upholding those rights?
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: What, if any, personal freedoms are legally protected for your people? Speech? Religion? Other stuff?
Universal Individual Freedoms: Like with the universal human rights question. What do you do if you feel another government is not sufficiently upholding its people's rights? Do you do anything?
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Ryatoria
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Postby Ryatoria » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:02 pm

Full Nation Name: The People's Republic of Ryatoria
Name: Ryatoria

Stance On:
Republicanism: Against
Anarchy: Against
Totalitarianism: Against
Capitalism: Against
Communism: Neutral
Socialism: Supported
Fascism: Against
Monarchy: As a complete ruling force, against.
Abortion: Legal
Alcohol: Legal and enjoyed
Drugs: Mild drugs are legal for recreational use. Mild to moderate drugs are legal via prescription.
Homosexuality: Legal in lifestyle and marriage
Death Penalty: Against, long prison sentences are seen as more of a punishment.
Militaries: Unwanted but necessary.
Gun Control: Police to not have guns but special police divisions do. For citizens to have guns, they must have a gun license. Certain conditions must be met to get a gun license. Gun licenses apply to tazers and air rifles but not bb guns.
Religion: Freedom of religion, but most religious people in Ryatoria are foreigners. Religion is not allowed to interfere with the day to day ruling of Ryatoria.
Slavery: Illegalised, issuming Community Service for criminals doesn't count.
Expansionism: Neutral
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Potential ally and trading partrner.
Racial Superiority: Against
The Environment: Protecting the environment is one of Ryatoria's current aims.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Humans are entitled to enough money to survive, a voice in our nation and clean living conditions. Humans may not be considered better than any other sentient being due to intelligence, wealth or authority.. etc. etc.
Universal Human Rights: See above;
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: See above.
Universal Individual Freedom: See above. That answer pretty much answers all of them.
SCIENCE!: Furthering our understanding of our world and universe is another of Ryatoria's aims.
Education: Education is highly important and necessary, and you must be of adult age (17) to leave.
Industry: Important, but does not take importance over civil rights, education or the environment.

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Ramsetia
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Postby Ramsetia » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:05 pm

Full Nation Name: The Imperial Territories of Ramsetia
Name: Ramsetia

Stance On:
Republicanism: an easily-corruptible and unstable system
Anarchy: any order is better than none
Totalitarianism: Too much control in a single person's hands may be dangerous, or beneficial. It depends upon the ruler
Capitalism: The system in use in Ramsetia. We aren't inextricably married to the concept, but it seems to work best for us.
Communism: An interesting system, but not workable in Ramsetia
Socialism: An interesting system, but not workable in Ramsetia
Fascism: Nationalism with bad P.R.
Monarchy: We're biased towards this one, as it seems to be the easiest way of explaining our government
Abortion: Only as a medical necessity
Alcohol: An essential social lubricant. Not without it's dangers.
Drugs: Legalised, but heavily controlled for quality and dosage.
Homosexuality: not an issue.
Death Penalty: unwise and immature. There is no excuse to take another person's life as their punishment.
Militaries: Essential, but should never be the only tool for international interaction
Gun Control: Education and licensing, and restrictions on what guns may be available for civilians. Also, comprehensive tracking and registration of all weapons in Ramsetia
Religion: Something to be kept as far away from politics and science as possible
Slavery: No.
Expansionism: Not a terribly wise idea when unbridled and uncontrolled.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: No real interaction, but they do have our respect.
Racial Superiority: Not an intelligent concept. Each person should be judged by their individual merits.
The Environment: Sustainability is more important over mindless protection.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: The right to have enough food, water, and shelter to live comfortably, And to be able to live without fear of attack or victimisation.
Universal Human Rights: See above.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: The freedom to say, believe, and do whatever one wants without fear of repression or unfair reprisal.
Universal Individual Freedom: Freedom of speech, religion, information, freedom from undue persecution.
SCIENCE!: SCIENCE! *evil mad scientist laughter*
Education: Of vital importance, exploration of ideas over indoctrination to ideas.
Industry: Again, monitored and established with sustainability in mind, not mindless construction and profit-mongering.
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Arborlawn
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Postby Arborlawn » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:07 pm

Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of Arborlawn
Name: Arborlawn

Stance On:
Republicanism: Yes
Anarchy: No
Totalitarianism: No
Capitalism: Yes
Communism: No
Socialism: No
Fascism: No
Monarchy: Yes
Abortion: No
Alcohol: Yes
Drugs: Only regulated marijuana
Homosexuality: No
Death Penalty: Yes
Militaries: Yes
Gun Control: Limited
Religion: Christianity / Jewish
Slavery: No
Expansionism: Sure, why not?
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Alrighty
Racial Superiority: No
The Environment: Needs to be protected with mild policies
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: What God provides for us
Universal Human Rights: What God provides for us
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: What God provides for us
Universal Individual Freedom: What God provides for us
SCIENCE!: Cool
Education: Needs to be well funded
Industry: Automobile / Medical
An eye for an eye and the whole world's blind. That's why you take both eyes and run.

Economically: Left / Right: -10
Socially Libertarian / Authoritarian: -7


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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:19 pm

Ryatoria wrote:Full Nation Name: The People's Republic of Ryatoria
Name: Ryatoria

Stance On:
Republicanism: Against
Anarchy: Against
Totalitarianism: Against
Capitalism: Against
Communism: Neutral
Socialism: Supported
Fascism: Against
Monarchy: As a complete ruling force, against.
Abortion: Legal
Alcohol: Legal and enjoyed
Drugs: Mild drugs are legal for recreational use. Mild to moderate drugs are legal via prescription.
Homosexuality: Legal in lifestyle and marriage
Death Penalty: Against, long prison sentences are seen as more of a punishment.
Militaries: Unwanted but necessary.
Gun Control: Police to not have guns but special police divisions do. For citizens to have guns, they must have a gun license. Certain conditions must be met to get a gun license. Gun licenses apply to tazers and air rifles but not bb guns.
Religion: Freedom of religion, but most religious people in Ryatoria are foreigners. Religion is not allowed to interfere with the day to day ruling of Ryatoria.
Slavery: Illegalised, issuming Community Service for criminals doesn't count.
Expansionism: Neutral
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Potential ally and trading partrner.
Racial Superiority: Against
The Environment: Protecting the environment is one of Ryatoria's current aims.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Humans are entitled to enough money to survive, a voice in our nation and clean living conditions. Humans may not be considered better than any other sentient being due to intelligence, wealth or authority.. etc. etc.
Universal Human Rights: See above;
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: See above.
Universal Individual Freedom: See above. That answer pretty much answers all of them.
SCIENCE!: Furthering our understanding of our world and universe is another of Ryatoria's aims.
Education: Education is highly important and necessary, and you must be of adult age (17) to leave.
Industry: Important, but does not take importance over civil rights, education or the environment.


Ryatoria is a country of damned dirty communist hippies. We consider them to be a bunch of queer, drugged-up tree huggers, too cowardly to serve in a proper military. Their environmental policy is laughable, putting trees and animals above the economic wellbeing of their own people. Their lukewarm attitude toward science (listing it among their "other aims" such as spreading communism and neutering industrial progress) is pathetic.

The only good thing about this nation the feature of this nation that comes closest to being a good thing is their weakness and cowardice. Depriving their own citizentry of guns and their distaste for military matters marks them as a nation that would roll over to any serious threat. When the time to lift their people from the shackles of communism and oppresive government control inevitably comes, it should be an easy task for the Skorzenian military.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:32 pm

Ramsetia wrote:Full Nation Name: The Imperial Territories of Ramsetia
Name: Ramsetia
Stance On:
Republicanism: an easily-corruptible and unstable system
Anarchy: any order is better than none
Totalitarianism: Too much control in a single person's hands may be dangerous, or beneficial. It depends upon the ruler
Capitalism: The system in use in Ramsetia. We aren't inextricably married to the concept, but it seems to work best for us.
Communism: An interesting system, but not workable in Ramsetia
Socialism: An interesting system, but not workable in Ramsetia
Fascism: Nationalism with bad P.R.
Monarchy: We're biased towards this one, as it seems to be the easiest way of explaining our government
Abortion: Only as a medical necessity
Alcohol: An essential social lubricant. Not without it's dangers.
Drugs: Legalised, but heavily controlled for quality and dosage.
Homosexuality: not an issue.
Death Penalty: unwise and immature. There is no excuse to take another person's life as their punishment.
Militaries: Essential, but should never be the only tool for international interaction
Gun Control: Education and licensing, and restrictions on what guns may be available for civilians. Also, comprehensive tracking and registration of all weapons in Ramsetia
Religion: Something to be kept as far away from politics and science as possible
Slavery: No.
Expansionism: Not a terribly wise idea when unbridled and uncontrolled.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: No real interaction, but they do have our respect.
Racial Superiority: Not an intelligent concept. Each person should be judged by their individual merits.
The Environment: Sustainability is more important over mindless protection.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: The right to have enough food, water, and shelter to live comfortably, And to be able to live without fear of attack or victimisation.
Universal Human Rights: See above.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: The freedom to say, believe, and do whatever one wants without fear of repression or unfair reprisal.
Universal Individual Freedom: Freedom of speech, religion, information, freedom from undue persecution.
SCIENCE!: SCIENCE! *evil mad scientist laughter*
Education: Of vital importance, exploration of ideas over indoctrination to ideas.
Industry: Again, monitored and established with sustainability in mind, not mindless construction and profit-mongering.


The Holy Empire of Skorzenia is cautiously friendly to Remsetia. While their lack of respect for democracy, weak justice system, and weak dedication to capitalism are very troubling, they have their share of good qualities. The most concerning aspect of Ramsetia to us is their gun control; why would the government go to such length to control their citizenry's armament unless those citizens tended toward criminality or would overthrow the government given the chance?

However, their environmental position is far more sensible than that of many nations, as natural resources must be husbanded if their exploitation is to be continued. Likewise, their appropriate treasuring of education and enthusiasm for the glories of SCIENCE! marks them as a nation close after Skorzenia's heart.

All in all, we would be happy to deal with Ramsetia on friendly terms, although they have some way to go before becoming fully civilized.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:39 pm

Arborlawn wrote:Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of Arborlawn
Name: Arborlawn
Stance On:
Republicanism: Yes
Anarchy: No
Totalitarianism: No
Capitalism: Yes
Communism: No
Socialism: No
Fascism: No
Monarchy: Yes
Abortion: No
Alcohol: Yes
Drugs: Only regulated marijuana
Homosexuality: No
Death Penalty: Yes
Militaries: Yes
Gun Control: Limited
Religion: Christianity / Jewish
Slavery: No
Expansionism: Sure, why not?
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Alrighty
Racial Superiority: No
The Environment: Needs to be protected with mild policies
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: What God provides for us
Universal Human Rights: What God provides for us
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: What God provides for us
Universal Individual Freedom: What God provides for us
SCIENCE!: Cool
Education: Needs to be well funded
Industry: Automobile / Medical


The Steel Fraternity is willing to be quite friendly to Arborlawn. While they embrace the evil of monarchism and have insufficient dedication to democracy, education, and science, they seem to be otherwise civilized.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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The Tavan Race
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Postby The Tavan Race » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:00 pm

Full Nation Name: Meritocratic Hegemony of the Tavan race
Name: Tavan Empire

Stance On:
Republicanism: Don't like
Anarchy: This is not really a government, but rather a lack thereof.
Totalitarianism: We hate this.
Capitalism: We love this.
Communism: No.
Socialism: No.
Fascism: No.
Monarchy: No.
Abortion: Perfectly fine
Alcohol: 'Tis a poison to us, but if you can convince us you aren't trying to kill our populace you can drink all you want.
Drugs: All fine.
Homosexuality: Fine.
Death Penalty: Used infrequently.
Militaries: Everyone should have one. Otherwise you are in danger of being trampled by imperialist nations.
Gun Control: Bad
Religion: Usually bad
Slavery: Practiced, with a few limitations.
Expansionism: It's like the peaceful form of imperialism. What's not to love?
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: We adore them both.
Racial Superiority: We're the best.
The Environment: To be protected.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: There are none but what are granted and what can be defended. If neither of these are the case, then it is not a right.
Universal Human Rights: None.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: None.
Universal Individual Freedom: None.
SCIENCE!: FUCK YEAH!
Education: Also excellent, although clearly not everyone deserves it.
Industry: Industry is what keeps our economy going, at least for now.
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The Batorys
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Postby The Batorys » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:06 pm

Full Nation Name: The Empire belonging to the Matriarch of the Batory Clan (rough translation)
Name: The Batory Empire/Empire of the Batorys

Stance On:
Republicanism: We don't favor it, on the Imperial scale, though some provinces have this form of government.
Anarchy: Horrid and disorderly. Can't have that.
Totalitarianism: Seems a bit... cumbersome and unwieldy, what with the planned economy and such. Though some might say we have totalitarian elements, due to political absolutism.
Capitalism: A working economic system, if kept in check.
Communism: Unrealistic idealism.
Socialism: We have some socialist elements.
Fascism: We're really not sure. From what we can tell, beyond usually being against communism and usually nationalist, fascists can't even agree with each other about what fascism is. Get back to us when there's a consensus about what it even means.
Monarchy: Very proper form of government. Of course, we're biased, as we are one.
Abortion: Has always been legal in the Empire. Completely unrestricted in the Imperial Province (location of the capital). Some of the outer provincial governments have imposed some restrictions.
Alcohol: Legal and widely enjoyed.
Drugs: Depends on which ones you specify. Cannabis is legal, as are opium, hallucinogenic mushrooms and cocaine. Methamphetamine is not legal. Unless of course you mean prescription medicine, but somehow that seems unlikely.
Homosexuality: What about it? The Empress does not concern herself with the bedroom and marriage habits of private citizens.
Death Penalty: It is the sentence for some crimes.
Militaries: Quite necessary. The world isn't really a very friendly place. Best not to be vulnerable.
Gun Control: Military equipment is for the military. Short of that, citizens may own pistols, rifles, etc.
Religion: The Empress follows the traditional ancient pagan religion, favoring the goddess Ithtyr. She prefers a pagan majority, but beyond that doesn't really care which deities her subjects worship.
Slavery: It is the penalty for some crimes.
Expansionism: The Empire does expand, when given the opportunity.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Currently neutral. That may change depending on the reaction to this survey.
Racial Superiority: Some in the Batory clan say that moroii are superior to non-moroii. The Empress is careful not to say such, as she does care about her subjects and wouldn't want to discourage the non-moroii majority.
The Environment: Protection of the Environment is extremely important in the Empire. As Ithtyr is the goddess of the Earth (as well as lust, vengeance, moroii and death), environmentalism is a religious imperative for the Empress.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: We're really not sure. They seem very easily infringed, whatever they are. One could make the argument that all rights start at the right to one's own body, however, as it is something a person comes into being with.
Universal Human Rights: Again, unsure. There certainly doesn't seem to be universal agreement on the existence of such.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: Citizens of the Empire have the freedom to associate with whoever they will, to carry on intimate relations with whoever they will, and the freedom to worship any deity they choose, or none at all. They have the freedom to decide their own profession, and the freedom to do with their own bodies what they will.
Universal Individual Freedom: We're not sure such exists. Certainly not in many countries.
SCIENCE!: Nice thing, science. Explains origins of the physical world, the universe, is responsible for medicine and all technology,
and of course, doesn't afraid of anything.

Education: An educated populace is a great asset, contributing greatly to a people's benefits from science, and the abundance of art and literature in a society.
Industry: Quite important to the success of a state and of a society, but needs vigilant monitoring.
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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:45 pm

The Tavan Race wrote:Full Nation Name: Meritocratic Hegemony of the Tavan race
Name: Tavan Empire
Stance On:
Republicanism: Don't like
Anarchy: This is not really a government, but rather a lack thereof.
Totalitarianism: We hate this.
Capitalism: We love this.
Communism: No.
Socialism: No.
Fascism: No.
Monarchy: No.
Abortion: Perfectly fine
Alcohol: 'Tis a poison to us, but if you can convince us you aren't trying to kill our populace you can drink all you want.
Drugs: All fine.
Homosexuality: Fine.
Death Penalty: Used infrequently.
Militaries: Everyone should have one. Otherwise you are in danger of being trampled by imperialist nations.
Gun Control: Bad
Religion: Usually bad
Slavery: Practiced, with a few limitations.
Expansionism: It's like the peaceful form of imperialism. What's not to love?
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: We adore them both.
Racial Superiority: We're the best.
The Environment: To be protected.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: There are none but what are granted and what can be defended. If neither of these are the case, then it is not a right.
Universal Human Rights: None.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: None.
Universal Individual Freedom: None.
SCIENCE!: FUCK YEAH!
Education: Also excellent, although clearly not everyone deserves it.
Industry: Industry is what keeps our economy going, at least for now.


The Steel Fraternity is somewhat ambivalent about the Tavan Empire. Their form of government is quite interesting and has a sound basic premise --that a ruler with both absolute power and absolute accountability will most likely be a good ruler-- the fact that any Tavan can kill the Hegemon makes their government seem needlessly unstable. While we find their lack of concern for their own young horrifying, but we would be very interested in exploring the possibility of purchasing Tavan infants to use as replacements for our proles. The only things we truly and entirely dislike about the Tavans is their heathen religion and lack of respect for individual rights.

However, their stance on science (FUCK YEAH! indeed) and industry are perfectly reasonable, and their stance on education understandable (we have the ultimate goal of providing education to everyone, but, lacking the resources, use merit to determine who gets it).

All in all, while we may dislike their morals and ethics, we find their practical reasoning and decisions to be very sound. We would happily engage in trade with the Tavans (especially if they would be willing to sell us their children) and academic exchange. We are especially interested in Tavan genetic engineering and space travel. We also have some (very cautious) hopes to ultimately spread the Steel Fraternity and its values to the Tavans.

--Brother-Scholar Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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The Tavan Race
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Postby The Tavan Race » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:54 pm

OOC: A sound evaluation.

IC: Hey, now, just because we're moral relativists doesn't mean we don't respect individual rights. We do, we simply believe that there are no universal rights. Because clearly some nations do not grant the same rights we do. You've got it backwards. We love freedom, we just respect those who don't.

And we would be perfectly willing to trade you some children. We would also be interested in hearing what values you think we should adopt. Shall we set up a meeting?
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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:15 am

The Tavan Race wrote:OOC: A sound evaluation.

IC: Hey, now, just because we're moral relativists doesn't mean we don't respect individual rights. We do, we simply believe that there are no universal rights. Because clearly some nations do not grant the same rights we do. You've got it backwards. We love freedom, we just respect those who don't.

And we would be perfectly willing to trade you some children. We would also be interested in hearing what values you think we should adopt. Shall we set up a meeting?


We generally don't bother to preach our morals at other nations. It doesn't tend to be effective, and if a nation's ideologies are too terribly out of line with ours we prefer to just invade and fix things directly. It will take some thought before we discuss values with you.

As for a meeting/child sales, we would be happy to accept a Tavan embassy and work from there.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

OOC: If you have a planet with the same rotation time and orbit time as Earth, how can it have a heliosynchronous orbit?

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The Tavan Race
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Postby The Tavan Race » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:18 am

The Steel Fraternity wrote:
The Tavan Race wrote:OOC: A sound evaluation.

IC: Hey, now, just because we're moral relativists doesn't mean we don't respect individual rights. We do, we simply believe that there are no universal rights. Because clearly some nations do not grant the same rights we do. You've got it backwards. We love freedom, we just respect those who don't.

And we would be perfectly willing to trade you some children. We would also be interested in hearing what values you think we should adopt. Shall we set up a meeting?


We generally don't bother to preach our morals at other nations. It doesn't tend to be effective, and if a nation's ideologies are too terribly out of line with ours we prefer to just invade and fix things directly. It will take some thought before we discuss values with you.

As for a meeting/child sales, we would be happy to accept a Tavan embassy and work from there.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

OOC: If you have a planet with the same rotation time and orbit time as Earth, how can it have a heliosynchronous orbit?


OOC: It can't. I made a mistake in typing there. Thanks for pointing it out; I'll fix it.
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City 9
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Postby City 9 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:31 am

Full Nation Name: The Community of City 9
Name: City 9

Stance On:
Republicanism: No. It´s partially democratic.
Anarchy: Arch-Enemy.
Totalitarianism: Bit, but still to weak.
Capitalism: Free Market? Never.
Communism: Working rights for people? Our people want to to work for us, so why should we give them more than food?
Socialism: Same as Communism.
Fascism: Is good, but people have to much emotions here. We do not want emotions.
Monarchy: One Ruler is good. We have one Administrator for Citry 9.
Abortion: How can you abort children which are produced in a test tube?
Alcohol: No.
Drugs: Only Combat Drugs.
Homosexuality: No, it´s nonproductive.
Death Penalty: Of course. Otherwise we couldn´t get rid of the opposition.
Militaries: 20% of the population work either as armed police officers or serve in our army. Any questions? Edit: Something to add: We get criminals from other nations. We brainwash them and they undergo human enhancement before they are sent as police officers on the streets.
Gun Control: For citizens: No weapons allowed. For any police/military person: Can bear an arm anytime.
Religion: No. People should work and not think about their life and other things.
Slavery: No, but our people would be considered as working under slave-like conditions.
Expansionism: Yes, the Universal Union, from where we come, has send us to conquer territory for it.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Steel sounds good, but we use much better metals as an normal steel. However, the name is just great, because it reminds me of big war machines!
Racial Superiority: No. The Universal Union consists of tons of races and biosynths, so there is no use for racism.
The Environment: We drain water from the oceans, mine mountains away. That won´t onsidered very good for environment.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Food, Aid and Human Enhancement Technology
Universal Human Rights: The right for serving the Universal Union in any way(Police, worker, scientist, administration personnel)
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: nothing.
Universal Individual Freedom: nothing. Your work and your life is predetermined by you skills and th A.I. controlling your fetus.
SCIENCE!: We are so f*cking good at science that we have trans-dimensional teleporters/portal rifts, can use dark matter as a weapon and for getting energy and we are still throwing mass amounts work into researching further in the field of dark matter.
Education: Only the people which gonna work as scientist or our administration personnel is getting educated. The other ones do only need to know how to communicate with our A.I.-Management-and-Controlling System.
Industry: Completely controlled by the government. We produce massive amounts of human enhancement technology for making the humans better at work, as an soldier and so on. Our scientists have got massive brain improvements. Furthermore we produce lots of weapons and soldiers which are sent to our homeworld and are there redirected to locations where the weapons are needed.
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Tokyoni
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Postby Tokyoni » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:38 am

Full Nation Name: The Democratic People's Vanguard-Republic of Tokyoni (DPVRT)
Name: Tokyoni

Stance On:
Republicanism: Depending on how you define the term, we are one. Though rather different than any bourgeoisie government.
Anarchy: An absurd idealist pipedream
Totalitarianism: A dictatorship of the proletariat is necessary in temporary measure to ensure the next phase of humanity's development. It should, however, wither away when the capitalist system is defeated globally.
Capitalism: A cancerous plague upon humanity; the greatest hindrance to mankind's progress.
Communism: A higher form of human consciousness; something that we must fight for.
Socialism: A necessary transition to communism in many societies.
Fascism: Capitalism in decay. A great threat to the modern world.
Monarchy: An absurd relic of a more primitive age.
Abortion: Legal in first two trimesters. Restricted in last trimester (only in cases of posing danger to woman's health).
Alcohol: Legal
Drugs: Legal, but only in government-run facilities.
Homosexuality: Legal
Death Penalty: In effect for more heinous offenses (murder, rape under certain circumstances, treason, etc.)
Militaries: Necessary to protect the Vanguard Party. Mandatory 2 years of service in the military.
Gun Control: No civilian ownership of firearms.
Religion: Completely freedom of religion so long as the religious institution does not promote treason against the Party. However, most of the population is rather secular.
Slavery: Illegal and strongly opposed
Expansionism: Opposed as a violation of the rights to self-determination of all peoples.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Yet to be determined
Racial Superiority: An absurd idea.
The Environment: The working people have but one home. It is one's Revolutionary duty to protect one's homeworld from the abuses of the capitalist class.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Human rights are ultimately social construct. As society evolves, so too do perceptions of the rights of human citizens.
Universal Human Rights: Self-determination to all people groups. (Juche ideology)
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: "Freedom" is meaningless in the context of an individual, as the conception of freedom can only be determined through the eyes of society.
Universal Individual Freedom: Meaningless.
SCIENCE!: An important ally of the Revolution and the workers struggle.
Education: A strong priority in raising a generation of conscious Revolutionaries
Industry: Necessary to build a strong Vanguard state.
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Postby Kreanoltha » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:42 am

Would you mind doing my factbook instead? *pokes sig*
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New Amerik
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Postby New Amerik » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:58 am

Full Nation Name: The Holy Divisional Technocracy of New Amerik
Name: New Amerik

Stance On:
Republicanism: The people elect rulers more charismatic than actual beneficial, so we say no on this.
Anarchy: Hell. No, worse than Hell. UnAmerikan, must be destroyed whenever convenient.
Totalitarianism: Not so good on the civil freedoms scale. We LIKE civil rights. However, good for the political restrictions.
Capitalism: Good if kept small, regulated, and utterly loyal to the government.
Communism: No. The people are incapable of ruling themselves.
Socialism: Why, yes, we agree that all factors of production should belong in the hands of the government....
Fascism: Planned economy? Good. No political rights? Good.
Monarchy: Good.....as long as the monarch is trained to effectively run the country and care for their people.
Abortion: Perfectly legal. Tests are even being done to find a possible use for aborted babies currently.....
Alcohol: Perfectly legal, though regulated.
Drugs: See Alchohol
Homosexuality: See Alcho- just kidding! Listen, every kind of sexual orientation is legal here.
Death Penalty: For the most dangerous UnAmerikans, needed and a benefit to the multi-verse.
Militaries: Ours is equipped with the greatest technology Science can acquire.
Gun Control: Only for the military and Law enforcement: civilians can rely on melée if they must.
Religion: Most of NA is Vasquailist, but officially we are secular.
Slavery: Only for UnAmerikans, who aren't living creatures so it's okay.
Expansionism: Not much on Earth. Off-planet, however......
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Never, to be frank, heard of you guys.
Racial Superiority: One Amerikan life is always greater than that of a Non-Amerikans's of equal rank.
The Environment: Fuck the environment, Science marches on!
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: The right to live, to be protected, and the right to be given your worth as rewards.
Multiversal Human Rights: Same as any other species, in that they have the right to be made happy.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: Uh....civil freedoms, certain economic and other freedoms when they contribute more to the State.
Multiversal Individual Freedom: Who cares about the multi-verse, we're busy enough as it is with our own people!
SCIENCE!: We worship Science. Literally. As in, it's a Demi-god in Vasquailism. Our nation RUNS on SCIENCE! It's a proven fact.
Education: Very important, we make sure to give it much, much funding.
Industry: Those who do not take advantage of our wonderful education system can still prove their worth to the government here.
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The Nuclear Fist
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:00 am

Full Nation Name: The United Socialist States of The Nuclear Fist
Name: Rustonia

Stance On:

Republicanism:
-If you mean Conservatism: The opposite of progress
-If you mean an actual republic: Deeply supportive
Anarchy: A power vacuum. Empires may rise and fall, but power always finds a place to rest it's head.
Totalitarianism: Somewhat supportive
Capitalism: Abhorred
Communism: We are communist, so we are supportive.
Socialism: Deeply supportive.
Fascism: An infantile diesese.
Monarchy: Abhorred.
Abortion: Legal in all cases
Alcohol: The goverment shall make no law prohibiting what a person can put into their body.
Drugs: See above
Homosexuality: supportive
Death Penalty: Used in all cases of murder, rape, and threats against the goverment,
Militaries: One of the best of man's inventions. In the words of a famous Rustonian general, "We're the Rustonians. We'll crush your military, burn your country to the ground, kill your pets, kill your children, poison your wells, and steal everything of value. And we'll dare you to say anything about it.
Gun Control: Needed heavily. People who are insane or have a criminal record should not own weapons of any kind. And the normal citizens are only able to own handguns and basic rifles.
Religion: A foul, needless parasite that must be exterminated at all costs.
Slavery: We practice penal slavery
Expansionism: We are expansionist, so supportive.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: No strong opinion one way or the other.
Racial Superiority: Enemy of progress. And therefore, enemy of The Nuclear Fist.
The Environment: Needs to be protected as much as possible without harming the economy.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:
Universal Human Rights:
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: The right to live freely as long as you do not impact on other people.
Universal Individual Freedom: Freedon must be regulated in order to have them at all.
SCIENCE!: We love science. Science is the #2 thing we spend our tax money on. Next to our military.
Education: All citizens of The Nuclear Fist recieve a free education up until the first semester of college.
Industry: The most important thing the goverment can do is to keep the industry running smoothely.
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The Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:14 pm

The Batorys wrote:Full Nation Name: The Empire belonging to the Matriarch of the Batory Clan (rough translation)
Name: The Batory Empire/Empire of the Batorys
Stance On:
Republicanism: We don't favor it, on the Imperial scale, though some provinces have this form of government.
Anarchy: Horrid and disorderly. Can't have that.
Totalitarianism: Seems a bit... cumbersome and unwieldy, what with the planned economy and such. Though some might say we have totalitarian elements, due to political absolutism.
Capitalism: A working economic system, if kept in check.
Communism: Unrealistic idealism.
Socialism: We have some socialist elements.
Fascism: We're really not sure. From what we can tell, beyond usually being against communism and usually nationalist, fascists can't even agree with each other about what fascism is. Get back to us when there's a consensus about what it even means.
Monarchy: Very proper form of government. Of course, we're biased, as we are one.
Abortion: Has always been legal in the Empire. Completely unrestricted in the Imperial Province (location of the capital). Some of the outer provincial governments have imposed some restrictions.
Alcohol: Legal and widely enjoyed.
Drugs: Depends on which ones you specify. Cannabis is legal, as are opium, hallucinogenic mushrooms and cocaine. Methamphetamine is not legal. Unless of course you mean prescription medicine, but somehow that seems unlikely.
Homosexuality: What about it? The Empress does not concern herself with the bedroom and marriage habits of private citizens.
Death Penalty: It is the sentence for some crimes.
Militaries: Quite necessary. The world isn't really a very friendly place. Best not to be vulnerable.
Gun Control: Military equipment is for the military. Short of that, citizens may own pistols, rifles, etc.
Religion: The Empress follows the traditional ancient pagan religion, favoring the goddess Ithtyr. She prefers a pagan majority, but beyond that doesn't really care which deities her subjects worship.
Slavery: It is the penalty for some crimes.
Expansionism: The Empire does expand, when given the opportunity.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Currently neutral. That may change depending on the reaction to this survey.
Racial Superiority: Some in the Batory clan say that moroii are superior to non-moroii. The Empress is careful not to say such, as she does care about her subjects and wouldn't want to discourage the non-moroii majority.
The Environment: Protection of the Environment is extremely important in the Empire. As Ithtyr is the goddess of the Earth (as well as lust, vengeance, moroii and death), environmentalism is a religious imperative for the Empress.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: We're really not sure. They seem very easily infringed, whatever they are. One could make the argument that all rights start at the right to one's own body, however, as it is something a person comes into being with.
Universal Human Rights: Again, unsure. There certainly doesn't seem to be universal agreement on the existence of such.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: Citizens of the Empire have the freedom to associate with whoever they will, to carry on intimate relations with whoever they will, and the freedom to worship any deity they choose, or none at all. They have the freedom to decide their own profession, and the freedom to do with their own bodies what they will.
Universal Individual Freedom: We're not sure such exists. Certainly not in many countries.
SCIENCE!: Nice thing, science. Explains origins of the physical world, the universe, is responsible for medicine and all technology, [spoiler]and of course, doesn't afraid of anything.

Education: An educated populace is a great asset, contributing greatly to a people's benefits from science, and the abundance of art and literature in a society.
Industry: Quite important to the success of a state and of a society, but needs vigilant monitoring.[/spoiler]


The Batorys' social mores and cultural values are looked down upon by the Steel Fraternity. Their hedonistic embrace of drugs, tribalistic paganism, tree-hugging, wanton infanticide, utter lack of any sexual restraint, and animalistic fear of industrial progress all mark them as hopelessly savage wretches desperately clinging to the primitive ideological infancy best suited to those societies that have not yet advanced from tribal life to actual civilization.

Like many foreign nation, they find that their own people lack the self-control and capacity for rational thought necessary to be trusted with weapons, and pay only feeble lip-service to science. Also like most other nations, they seem to have jumped into bed with the disgusting philosophy of Communism while justifying themselves by insisting on referring to it as "socialism."

All in all, they seem to be a nation of primitives who have clung to their regressed and uncivilized ways of self-gratification and wanton hedonism while somehow managing to develop technologically.

They are so hopelessly backward that it would probably be pointless to try and set them right by invading, however, so the Steel Fraternity shall remain neutral to the Bathorys.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:16 pm

City 9 wrote:Full Nation Name: The Community of City 9
Name: City 9
Stance On:
Republicanism: No. It´s partially democratic.
Anarchy: Arch-Enemy.
Totalitarianism: Bit, but still to weak.
Capitalism: Free Market? Never.
Communism: Working rights for people? Our people want to to work for us, so why should we give them more than food?
Socialism: Same as Communism.
Fascism: Is good, but people have to much emotions here. We do not want emotions.
Monarchy: One Ruler is good. We have one Administrator for Citry 9.
Abortion: How can you abort children which are produced in a test tube?
Alcohol: No.
Drugs: Only Combat Drugs.
Homosexuality: No, it´s nonproductive.
Death Penalty: Of course. Otherwise we couldn´t get rid of the opposition.
Militaries: 20% of the population work either as armed police officers or serve in our army. Any questions? Edit: Something to add: We get criminals from other nations. We brainwash them and they undergo human enhancement before they are sent as police officers on the streets.
Gun Control: For citizens: No weapons allowed. For any police/military person: Can bear an arm anytime.
Religion: No. People should work and not think about their life and other things.
Slavery: No, but our people would be considered as working under slave-like conditions.
Expansionism: Yes, the Universal Union, from where we come, has send us to conquer territory for it.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Steel sounds good, but we use much better metals as an normal steel. However, the name is just great, because it reminds me of big war machines!
Racial Superiority: No. The Universal Union consists of tons of races and biosynths, so there is no use for racism.
The Environment: We drain water from the oceans, mine mountains away. That won´t onsidered very good for environment.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Food, Aid and Human Enhancement Technology
Universal Human Rights: The right for serving the Universal Union in any way(Police, worker, scientist, administration personnel)
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: nothing.
Universal Individual Freedom: nothing. Your work and your life is predetermined by you skills and th A.I. controlling your fetus.
SCIENCE!: We are so f*cking good at science that we have trans-dimensional teleporters/portal rifts, can use dark matter as a weapon and for getting energy and we are still throwing mass amounts work into researching further in the field of dark matter.
Education: Only the people which gonna work as scientist or our administration personnel is getting educated. The other ones do only need to know how to communicate with our A.I.-Management-and-Controlling System.
Industry: Completely controlled by the government. We produce massive amounts of human enhancement technology for making the humans better at work, as an soldier and so on. Our scientists have got massive brain improvements. Furthermore we produce lots of weapons and soldiers which are sent to our homeworld and are there redirected to locations where the weapons are needed.


Vile alien beasts bent on dominating humanity. They must be destroyed at the first opportunity.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:29 pm

Tokyoni wrote:Full Nation Name: The Democratic People's Vanguard-Republic of Tokyoni (DPVRT)
Name: Tokyoni
Stance On:
Republicanism: Depending on how you define the term, we are one. Though rather different than any bourgeoisie government.
Anarchy: An absurd idealist pipedream
Totalitarianism: A dictatorship of the proletariat is necessary in temporary measure to ensure the next phase of humanity's development. It should, however, wither away when the capitalist system is defeated globally.
Capitalism: A cancerous plague upon humanity; the greatest hindrance to mankind's progress.
Communism: A higher form of human consciousness; something that we must fight for.
Socialism: A necessary transition to communism in many societies.
Fascism: Capitalism in decay. A great threat to the modern world.
Monarchy: An absurd relic of a more primitive age.
Abortion: Legal in first two trimesters. Restricted in last trimester (only in cases of posing danger to woman's health).
Alcohol: Legal
Drugs: Legal, but only in government-run facilities.
Homosexuality: Legal
Death Penalty: In effect for more heinous offenses (murder, rape under certain circumstances, treason, etc.)
Militaries: Necessary to protect the Vanguard Party. Mandatory 2 years of service in the military.
Gun Control: No civilian ownership of firearms.
Religion: Completely freedom of religion so long as the religious institution does not promote treason against the Party. However, most of the population is rather secular.
Slavery: Illegal and strongly opposed
Expansionism: Opposed as a violation of the rights to self-determination of all peoples.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Yet to be determined
Racial Superiority: An absurd idea.
The Environment: The working people have but one home. It is one's Revolutionary duty to protect one's homeworld from the abuses of the capitalist class.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: Human rights are ultimately social construct. As society evolves, so too do perceptions of the rights of human citizens.
Universal Human Rights: Self-determination to all people groups. (Juche ideology)
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: "Freedom" is meaningless in the context of an individual, as the conception of freedom can only be determined through the eyes of society.
Universal Individual Freedom: Meaningless.
SCIENCE!: An important ally of the Revolution and the workers struggle.
Education: A strong priority in raising a generation of conscious Revolutionaries
Industry: Necessary to build a strong Vanguard state.


Filthy Communist bastards. We would like nothing more than to scour these disgusting enemies of mankind from the face of the Earth with nuclear fire. However, it would appear that for the most part their citizens are the victims of oppressive forced drugging, deprivation of weaponry for self-defense and revolution, and institutionalized indoctrination disguised as "education," the only conscionable option for Skorzenians as freedom-loving people is a conventional removal of the degenerate communist government (as soon as we have a reasonable opportunity and the resources to do so).

We can take comfort from the facts that their industrial progress will be restricted by their fawning worship of the environment and that their twisted Communist perversion of science will doubtless bring their technological progress to a halt.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:43 pm

Kreanoltha wrote:Would you mind doing my factbook instead? *pokes sig*


The Steel Fraternity is fairly sure that most of Kreanoltha's official history is a lie. Their claim that they managed to go from an isolated colony of extreme libertarians to a world superpower in five years sounds like the grandiose revisionist claim of a nation that brutally and slowly oppressed the rest of the world and later tried to justify it (and stroke their own egos) by claiming to have accomplished this feat with ease in a ridiculously short time.

Further, we find their willingness to abandon their humanity for grotesque physically-modified exaggerations of the human form to be very disturbing. They may as well be aliens; in fact, that would probably be a better way to think of them. Aliens bent on dominating mankind.

These things mark Kreanoltha as a devious and inhuman nation to be watched carefully and suspiciously.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:53 pm

New Amerik wrote:Full Nation Name: The Holy Divisional Technocracy of New Amerik
Name: New Amerik
Stance On:
Republicanism: The people elect rulers more charismatic than actual beneficial, so we say no on this.
Anarchy: Hell. No, worse than Hell. UnAmerikan, must be destroyed whenever convenient.
Totalitarianism: Not so good on the civil freedoms scale. We LIKE civil rights. However, good for the political restrictions.
Capitalism: Good if kept small, regulated, and utterly loyal to the government.
Communism: No. The people are incapable of ruling themselves.
Socialism: Why, yes, we agree that all factors of production should belong in the hands of the government....
Fascism: Planned economy? Good. No political rights? Good.
Monarchy: Good.....as long as the monarch is trained to effectively run the country and care for their people.
Abortion: Perfectly legal. Tests are even being done to find a possible use for aborted babies currently.....
Alcohol: Perfectly legal, though regulated.
Drugs: See Alchohol
Homosexuality: See Alcho- just kidding! Listen, every kind of sexual orientation is legal here.
Death Penalty: For the most dangerous UnAmerikans, needed and a benefit to the multi-verse.
Militaries: Ours is equipped with the greatest technology Science can acquire.
Gun Control: Only for the military and Law enforcement: civilians can rely on melée if they must.
Religion: Most of NA is Vasquailist, but officially we are secular.
Slavery: Only for UnAmerikans, who aren't living creatures so it's okay.
Expansionism: Not much on Earth. Off-planet, however......
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: Never, to be frank, heard of you guys.
Racial Superiority: One Amerikan life is always greater than that of a Non-Amerikans's of equal rank.
The Environment: Fuck the environment, Science marches on!
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights: The right to live, to be protected, and the right to be given your worth as rewards.
Multiversal Human Rights: Same as any other species, in that they have the right to be made happy.
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: Uh....civil freedoms, certain economic and other freedoms when they contribute more to the State.
Multiversal Individual Freedom: Who cares about the multi-verse, we're busy enough as it is with our own people!
SCIENCE!: We worship Science. Literally. As in, it's a Demi-god in Vasquailism. Our nation RUNS on SCIENCE! It's a proven fact.
Education: Very important, we make sure to give it much, much funding.
Industry: Those who do not take advantage of our wonderful education system can still prove their worth to the government here.


The Steel Fraternity has mixed feelings on New Amerik, edging toward the negative.

On the one hand they are vile, oppressive Commie bastards. They have no respect for human life, are concerned only with mindlessly fulfilling their own base desires, are avowed enemies of freedom and righteousness, use government control to quash economic freedom and innovation, and engage in stomach-turningly godless worship of the egotistical tinpot despot Vasquail.

On the other hand, their dedication to science and industry is admirable.

The Steel Fraternity would ultimately be happy to trade with NewAmerik until such time as it becomes convenient to cleanse the Earth of their vile stain.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity
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Postby The Steel Fraternity » Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:59 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:Full Nation Name: The United Socialist States of The Nuclear Fist
Name: Rustonia
Stance On:

Republicanism:
-If you mean Conservatism: The opposite of progress
-If you mean an actual republic: Deeply supportive
Anarchy: A power vacuum. Empires may rise and fall, but power always finds a place to rest it's head.
Totalitarianism: Somewhat supportive
Capitalism: Abhorred
Communism: We are communist, so we are supportive.
Socialism: Deeply supportive.
Fascism: An infantile diesese.
Monarchy: Abhorred.
Abortion: Legal in all cases
Alcohol: The goverment shall make no law prohibiting what a person can put into their body.
Drugs: See above
Homosexuality: supportive
Death Penalty: Used in all cases of murder, rape, and threats against the goverment,
Militaries: One of the best of man's inventions. In the words of a famous Rustonian general, "We're the Rustonians. We'll crush your military, burn your country to the ground, kill your pets, kill your children, poison your wells, and steal everything of value. And we'll dare you to say anything about it.
Gun Control: Needed heavily. People who are insane or have a criminal record should not own weapons of any kind. And the normal citizens are only able to own handguns and basic rifles.
Religion: A foul, needless parasite that must be exterminated at all costs.
Slavery: We practice penal slavery
Expansionism: We are expansionist, so supportive.
The Skorzenian Empire and the Steel Fraternity: No strong opinion one way or the other.
Racial Superiority: Enemy of progress. And therefore, enemy of The Nuclear Fist.
The Environment: Needs to be protected as much as possible without harming the economy.
What Constitutes Basic Human Rights:
Universal Human Rights:
What Constitutes Basic Individual Freedoms: The right to live freely as long as you do not impact on other people.
Universal Individual Freedom: Freedon must be regulated in order to have them at all.
SCIENCE!: We love science. Science is the #2 thing we spend our tax money on. Next to our military.
Education: All citizens of The Nuclear Fist recieve a free education up until the first semester of college.
Industry: The most important thing the goverment can do is to keep the industry running smoothely.


Commie bastards bent on crushing all mankind under their oppressive heel and destroying everything beautiful in the world, while crushing the human spirit and eliminating every positive work of humanity.

I say we take off and nuke the entire country from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity

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Kreanoltha
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kreanoltha » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:32 pm

The Steel Fraternity wrote:
Kreanoltha wrote:Would you mind doing my factbook instead? *pokes sig*


The Steel Fraternity is fairly sure that most of Kreanoltha's official history is a lie. Their claim that they managed to go from an isolated colony of extreme libertarians to a world superpower in five years sounds like the grandiose revisionist claim of a nation that brutally and slowly oppressed the rest of the world and later tried to justify it (and stroke their own egos) by claiming to have accomplished this feat with ease in a ridiculously short time.

Further, we find their willingness to abandon their humanity for grotesque physically-modified exaggerations of the human form to be very disturbing. They may as well be aliens; in fact, that would probably be a better way to think of them. Aliens bent on dominating mankind.

These things mark Kreanoltha as a devious and inhuman nation to be watched carefully and suspiciously.

--Brother-Scholastic Zachary Lee, Head of the Imperial Skorzenian Diplomatic Corps and Elder of the Steel Fraternity


OOC: Hahaha. That's probably the funnest review I've gotten yet.

IC: We think you were mistaken about the time frame. We were isolated extreme libertarians for eighty-one years. Then we had a small altercation with a small mined country to our west(France) in which we destroyed said nation. They were something akin to a burning crater afterwords. It then took five years to consolidate our power over the supposed super powers of China, Russia, and America. In 222 years we really did drive them off of Earth. It was fun.
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