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The Pacific deserves a new Delegate.

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The Pacific Deserves a new Delegate

Yes
37
26%
No
91
63%
Anyone but Krulltopia & Moo-Cows with Guns
16
11%
 
Total votes : 144

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The CWS Recruiter
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The Pacific deserves a new Delegate.

Postby The CWS Recruiter » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:01 am

Krulltopia.

He's been delegate since May 16th, 2009.
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Today is July 13th, 2010. (A total of 423 Days. Since his Election)

'Cruel'topia has secretly banned advertising for player created regions although he is a delegate of a feeder region.
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Although Moderators have openly stated to 'Cruel'topia that he cannot do this as he is a feeder region delegate, and it will lower activity in play created regions, and the probability rate of new nations staying.

All other feeder region heads have shifted their power
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North Wiedna
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Postby North Wiedna » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:05 am

1. Wrong forum.
2. You have logic failures.
The CWS Recruiter wrote:'Cruel'topia has secretly banned advertising for player created regions although he is a delegate of a feeder region.

It's a secret, now?
The CWS Recruiter wrote:Although Moderators have openly stated to 'Cruel'topia that he cannot do this as he is a feeder region delegate, and it will lower activity in play created regions, and the probability rate of new nations staying.

Correction, they said he COULD TRY to do it, but they would not punish violators unless they violate existing rules.
The CWS Recruiter wrote:All other feeder region heads have shifted their power
Kandarin - 97 Days - The Rejected Realms
Griffin Somerset - 398 Days - Lazarus
Darkesia - 77 Days - The West Pacific
Southern Bellz - 192 Days - The South Pacific
Lady Edea - 106 Days - The East Pacific
New Kervoskia - 131 Days - The North Pacific

Ever heard of Fudgetopia? (S)he served as the leader of the South Pacific for over 1000 days.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:26 am

You could not have picked a worse forum for this.
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Pythrian Embassy II
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Postby Pythrian Embassy II » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:30 am

Gimme a **** break, Vocal Public.

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Angleter
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Postby Angleter » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:31 am

Ifreann wrote:You could not have picked a worse forum for this.


Arts & Fiction?
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Murra
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Postby Murra » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:31 am

The CWS Recruiter wrote:

Apart from all the other fallacies in this argument, hasn't Kandarin been delegate of TRR since, like, forever? Barring invasions, that is. I'm pretty sure he's been there since before the game started recording how long since the delegate was elected -- I've certainly never seen anyone else holding the TRR delegacy and I've been here for six years.

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Chrobalta
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Postby Chrobalta » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:32 am

What does time spent as delegate have to do with anything?
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:35 am

Angleter wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You could not have picked a worse forum for this.


Arts & Fiction?

Nah, someone might take it for a work of fiction.
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Pythria
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Postby Pythria » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:36 am

Chrobalta wrote:What does time spent as delegate have to do with anything?

I've been arguing with these people on the Pacific Resistance RMB. Their logic is completely flawed and they just keep making ad hominem attacks and repeating themselves.

Also, move requested.
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Southern Bellz
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Postby Southern Bellz » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:37 am

I think it is a bit unfair to highlight my time a delegate as some sort of benchmark for how long delegate's have been in power. The delegate before me was delegate for over 1000 days, and in terms of feeder delegates, I would say my term is just getting out of infancy.

On top of that, time as delegate has nothing to do with how well things are run and policy.

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Glen-Rhodes
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:12 am

If you don't like Krulltopia, get a group of people together and kick him out. Good luck, though. Apparently he has a few cronies out there with just as much influence as him.

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Kandarin
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Postby Kandarin » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:42 am

Murra wrote:
The CWS Recruiter wrote:

Apart from all the other fallacies in this argument, hasn't Kandarin been delegate of TRR since, like, forever? Barring invasions, that is. I'm pretty sure he's been there since before the game started recording how long since the delegate was elected -- I've certainly never seen anyone else holding the TRR delegacy and I've been here for six years.


Indeed, you wouldn't have seen anyone else in six years, since I've been there for seven. So as you can imagine, I'm a little amused at the depiction of me as the harbinger of regime change. ;)
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Pythria
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Postby Pythria » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:47 am

Kandarin wrote:
Murra wrote:
The CWS Recruiter wrote:

Apart from all the other fallacies in this argument, hasn't Kandarin been delegate of TRR since, like, forever? Barring invasions, that is. I'm pretty sure he's been there since before the game started recording how long since the delegate was elected -- I've certainly never seen anyone else holding the TRR delegacy and I've been here for six years.


Indeed, you wouldn't have seen anyone else in six years, since I've been there for seven. So as you can imagine, I'm a little amused at the depiction of me as the harbinger of regime change. ;)

Wow, it's already been 100 days since Aegara?
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Postby Todd McCloud » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:01 am

Time is irrelevant. It's what you do during that time that really counts. Some have made the most of it, others have not.
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Katganistan
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:03 am

Let's clear up some misinformation, shall we?

The CWS Recruiter wrote:Krulltopia.

He's been delegate since May 16th, 2009.
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Today is July 13th, 2010. (A total of 423 Days. Since his Election)

'Cruel'topia has secretly banned advertising for player created regions although he is a delegate of a feeder region.
-
Although Moderators have openly stated to 'Cruel'topia that he cannot do this as he is a feeder region delegate, and it will lower activity in play created regions, and the probability rate of new nations staying.


All other feeder region heads have shifted their power
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Krulltopia is within his rights and may ban whomever he cares to from the region.
Players are within their rights to try to elect another delegate or leave.
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Lord Tothe
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Postby Lord Tothe » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:12 am

Y'know what user-created regions are for, right? So you can get out of the feeders and join with like-minded people to form a community that matches your preferences. Or, like other people said, you could work for a new delegate. Of course, an invasion/defense conflict could be interesting. Anyone else remember the battles over The North Pacific? That would probably be taking things way too far, though. In war, everybody loses, even when here in NS we have no real casualties.
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The Seeker of Power
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Postby The Seeker of Power » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:20 pm

I believe we do deserve a new delegate, and hence I would like to ask Krulltopia publicly to change his name to Crueltopia! That way we get a "new" delegate.
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Rothinzil
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Postby Rothinzil » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:14 pm

Get real. Krulltopia has served The Pacific as our Delegate with distinction for some time now. Krulltopia is free to ban those recruiters, a method which has been discussed with and approved by the citizens of the Pacific. He is well within his rights to enforce those restrictions; in fact, it is his duty to carry out the will of the people who have chosen him as Delegate. Frankly, this is a matter for the nations of the Pacific alone to decide. If we want a new Delegate, we will choose one of our own will, not because some Userite regions are getting pissy because we don't want their adspam cluttering up our RMB.

It should be noted that the Dominion of Rothinzil finds it hilarious that a recruiter nation, not a full-time resident of the Pacific, is the one asking for a new delegate.

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Moo-cows with guns
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Postby Moo-cows with guns » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:18 pm

:ninja:

I am so hurt. Anyone but Moo-cows and Krulltopia? :(

Just like Ivan, who ejected over 2000 people from The Pacific, Krulltopia has the right to do whatever he and his government chooses as long as no game rules are broken. You recruiters often make it impossible for the residents of The Pacific and other feeders to actually have a conversation on the RMB and you don't give a damn. Well, he and his government don't give a damn whether you are able to recruit on our RMB. Nor do I. Oh wait....I am a member of his government. :D

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Krulltopia
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Postby Krulltopia » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:21 pm

So, by this logic, Pierconium aka Ivan Moldavi is 'allowed'? I'll be sure to tell him that. And Rothinzil too, how wonderful. As you can probably guess, she'd make a wonderfully democratic delegate.
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Darkesia
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Postby Darkesia » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:56 pm

Make me delegate of TP! I've wanted it forever. I used to try, like... weekly or something, to tip the cow. ;)

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Minineenee
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Postby Minineenee » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:43 pm

Nono Dark. You HAVE a feeder. :-P

Make me delegate! I am currently without a delegacy and always did have an eye on TP.
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Kandarin
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Postby Kandarin » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:46 pm

While we're at it, I nominate Lady Edea.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:46 pm

to the OP: I'll help you bring down the NPO if you give me The Commonwealth already :P

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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:01 pm

Hop over to Nasicournia - we might not be as large as we used to be, but I'm sure we could roll back the years for a liberation of The Pacific :D

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