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Johnia Goldenland
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should we have a common currency

Postby Johnia Goldenland » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:45 pm

I want to know what you think about a common currency.
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Postby Knowlandia » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:21 pm

Yes.It should be the credit.
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Quadrimmina
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Postby Quadrimmina » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:24 pm

The World Assembly should not have a common currency. We are particularly worried that this would lead to mass world economic failure, if the World Assembly currency were to fail (considering 1/5 of the world's nations' economies would fail in the process).
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Postby Krioval » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:53 pm

In any case, the Secretariat has ruled proposals to create a common currency inherently out of order.

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Postby Freeoplis » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:55 pm

It will never work, National sovereignty shall triumph.
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Mohawk Clans
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Postby Mohawk Clans » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:57 pm

I thought we had NSD?Or USD?


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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:58 pm

No.
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Postby Mediterreania » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:59 pm

What about nations without a currency? The Communes of Mediterreania use a barter system, and the standard medium of exchange is notes from the gold reserves in Geldburg City.
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Postby Grandtaria » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:59 pm

Horrible idea!
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Postby Zeppy » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:01 pm

I can see it now: Gold, oil and prostitutes.

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Pythria
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Postby Pythria » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:05 pm

We will never give up our PMD!
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:51 pm

Johnia Goldenland wrote:I want to know what you think about a common currency.

No we should NOT have a common currency.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:45 am

Impractical, as well as politically impossible.
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Postby Cameroi » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:48 am

should is what you do in the little room with the mirrors.
cameroi has no opinion on this as we do not regard the use of currency as essential, but entirely optional.
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Postby The Sentenial Empire » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:51 am

Mohawk Clans wrote:I thought we had NSD?Or USD?

merely a standard of weighing the various international currencies against one another...
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Moriskov
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Postby Moriskov » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:52 am

The Currency should be cookies that way the world could be feed AND have money! :p
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:15 am

Leonie deglate of Reich1 Italy who was nominated few days earlier was present in past few proposal discussions facepalmed and turned to the assistant deglate and said "so this is proposals at WA? Our 4 year old would have done better job at least they would write a realistic proposal." the assistant deglate replied "madam, there are many proposals which are quite stupid around here - of 100 proposals 98 of them are usually stupid ones, 1 would be the one which we disagree with and 1 of them would be one which we agree with - you would get used to them soon". She smiled and nodded and said to him, "lets hope so - but anyway deglates have to write proposals which are atleast realistic and dont make WA nations, states. Perhaps I would get used to it soon." Then she spoke up...

"Considering the recent proposals, why dont we just make WA central government and all WA nations as states - especially as all these recent proposals destroys sovereignty of nation anyway. As for us, we wish to remain sovereign nation not state thus no."

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Charlotte Ryberg
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:25 am

The USD is a defacto roleplay currency existing mainly for the purpose of the bereau de change, but a formal world currency implemented via a WA resolution is game mechanics violation. Period.

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Postby Tzorsland » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:03 am

Johnia Goldenland wrote:I want to know what you think about a common currency.


Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time a number of monarchs (known as the Understanding Sovereigns or US – in part because monarchs always refer to themselves in the first person plural) set up a confederation among themselves and wrote up articles. “Wouldn’t it be nice if we all named our currency the same,” they said and they did.

But it wasn’t nice. Even though they all had the same name for their currency, the value of each sovereign’s currency was still different because each had printed different amounts and had different reserves and so forth. Commerce was still a nightmare.

And so King George got them all together, wrote a constitution, placed the creation of money in the hands of a single person and everyone was happy.

That is, until his successor created fiat currency and caused inflation, but that is another story.

OOC: Just having everyone name their currency to the same name will not cause a single currency.

OOC: You can’t have a WA resolution to force setting values in WA nations.

OOC: You can’t have a WA resolution to change game mechanics, so currency linking is out.

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Darkridett
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Postby Darkridett » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:48 am

No, a common currency would take away Nation's individuality which I feel is important for Nation's.

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East Ying
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Postby East Ying » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:25 am

The delegation from East Ying shook it's head at the proposal.

'Our economy is fine without the WA getting it's nose in it. We will never support such a proposal that would so gravely undermine our rights as a nation to have a local economy.'
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:31 am

Whats wrong with Universal Standard Dollar?
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East Ying
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Postby East Ying » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:38 am

ooc)) Nothing, really. It is just that to have a standard currency would change the code of the signup application/settings where you can change your currency. The WA is not allowed to change the code, so subsequently this proposal is impossible and furthermore, against the rules/standards of the World Assembly. Quite honostly even if it wasn't against the rules, I still would not like this proposal as it interferes to heavily with nations and their RPs.
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Bei Song wrote:According to this poll, 26% of U.S. don't know that we declared independence from England



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The irony is delicious.


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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:07 am

OOC: And anyway, the game calculates exchange rates separately for each nation -- according to the differing economic strengths of the individual nations, so any "common" currency would still have different values in different nations...
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:58 am

Bears Armed wrote:OOC: And anyway, the game calculates exchange rates separately for each nation -- according to the differing economic strengths of the individual nations, so any "common" currency would still have different values in different nations...


There you go, pointing out inconvenient facts to them what don't want them again. :p
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