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Does the identity of the criminal REALLY matter?

Postby Soviet Fighter Plane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:17 pm

When I see people discussing a crime, I find it annoying when they talk about how the criminal was black, gay, trans ect., and say that it’s because of the woke/immigration ect. I have a question. Does it REALLY matter the minority status of a criminal? It doesn’t make the crime any different, does it? Shootings are shootings, murder is murder and stealing is stealing.

So I pose a question to all of you. Should the media even be disclosing the minority status of a criminal? Should that information even be relevant? Discuss below!

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No, unless you're the SFPD or LAPD
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Postby Washington-Columbia » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:20 pm

Not at all. If I'm getting shot, I'll be more pissed on the fact that I got shot and not how much melanin the shooter has.
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Postby Imperial Cecilia » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:21 pm

I honestly think so, at least in the perspective of law enforcement. If someone were a minority, it would make sense that they would face different circumstances in life than the majority, pushing them to commit a crime. For example, if you were black, and a person discriminated you, you would probably have the urge to retaliate.

Pls don't call me racist for that example
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Postby Arelont » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:22 pm

Depends. If the criminal is on the loose there should be some information. If not no.
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Postby Mardesurria » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:23 pm

Only in cases where the minority the person belongs to is treated differently or faces different circumstances than the majority. Other than that, it’s completely irrelevant.
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Postby All-American Confederacy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:23 pm

Exactly. It’s just nonsensical, woke identity politics overcoming genuine tragedies.
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Postby Jorsania » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:25 pm

It varies.
Absolutely if the police are actively trying to apprehend said criminal, also with that comes the fact if police would need any information on said criminal by citizens.

If the criminal is already apprehended then absolutely not.
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Postby Soviet Fighter Plane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:25 pm

Imperial Cecilia wrote:I honestly think so, at least in the perspective of law enforcement. If someone were a minority, it would make sense that they would face different circumstances in life than the majority, pushing them to commit a crime. For example, if you were black, and a person discriminated you, you would probably have the urge to retaliate.

Pls don't call me racist for that example

Yeah, but I’m talking about media coverage. I’m saying that should the media be putting up things like “Trans person shoots school” ect. I think that law enforcement knowing the identity of the perpetrator would be useful in identification, but I don’t see why the minority status of a criminal needs to be broadcasted to the whole world.

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Postby Beric » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:26 pm

Imagine not letting the news say who commits crimes.
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Postby The Galactic Authority of Progress » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:27 pm

Yes, in a political context, when it comes to averages, though not much in a legal one.
Imperial Cecilia wrote:I honestly think so. If someone were a minority, it would make sense that they would face different circumstances in life than the majority, pushing them to commit a crime. For example, if you were black, and a person discriminated you, you would probably have the urge to retaliate.

Pls don't call me racist for that example

Uhh…not by committing a crime. If you do that, you’re already inclined towards being a criminal, you’re just looking for an excuse. Also women don’t commit more crimes then men, but they (supposedly) get discriminated against a lot.
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Postby All-American Confederacy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:30 pm

Beric wrote:Imagine not letting the news say who commits crimes.

Yes. It’s called a name.
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Postby Arelont » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:31 pm

All-American Confederacy wrote:
Beric wrote:Imagine not letting the news say who commits crimes.

Yes. It’s called a name.


Yes but you gotta remember freedom of information and all that stuff
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Postby All-American Confederacy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:33 pm

Arelont wrote:
All-American Confederacy wrote:Yes. It’s called a name.


Yes but you gotta remember freedom of information and all that stuff

Yeah, counterpoint - complaints.
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Nope. None whatsoever. If somebody, for example, murders a bunch of children, they’re a scumbag regardless of sex, sexuality, race, or whatever.
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Postby Imperial Cecilia » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:35 pm

The Galactic Authority of Progress wrote:Yes, in a political context, when it comes to averages, though not much in a legal one.
Imperial Cecilia wrote:I honestly think so. If someone were a minority, it would make sense that they would face different circumstances in life than the majority, pushing them to commit a crime. For example, if you were black, and a person discriminated you, you would probably have the urge to retaliate.

Pls don't call me racist for that example

Uhh…not by committing a crime. If you do that, you already had the urge in you, you’re just looking for an excuse. Also women don’t commit more crimes then men, but they (supposedly) get discriminated against a lot.

Different people have different personalities. Some people are more easily enraged by discrimination than others. Now, I'm not saying that just because they are a minority means they will commit more crimes. I'm saying that being a minority will expose them to different circumstances in which they could react differently to.
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Postby Soviet Fighter Plane » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:37 pm

All-American Confederacy wrote:
Beric wrote:Imagine not letting the news say who commits crimes.

Yes. It’s called a name.

Yup, I just find it annoying when people act like the crime is somehow worse or proof that some dumb, discriminatory policy should be implemented just because the criminal happens to be a minority

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Imperial Cecilia wrote:
The Galactic Authority of Progress wrote:Yes, in a political context, when it comes to averages, though not much in a legal one.

Uhh…not by committing a crime. If you do that, you already had the urge in you, you’re just looking for an excuse. Also women don’t commit more crimes then men, but they (supposedly) get discriminated against a lot.

Different people have different personalities. Some people are more easily enraged by discrimination than others. Now, I'm not saying that just because they are a minority means they will commit more crimes. I'm saying that being a minority will expose them to different circumstances in which they could react differently to.

It’s still a disproportionate response, particularly if you’re doing it to someone innocent. What kind of crimes are you talking about exactly?
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Soviet Fighter Plane wrote:
All-American Confederacy wrote:Yes. It’s called a name.

Yup, I just find it annoying when people act like the crime is somehow worse or proof that some dumb, discriminatory policy should be implemented just because the criminal happens to be a minority

I disagree with it to eliminate the wokies.

You agree with it to encourage them.

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Soviet Fighter Plane wrote:
All-American Confederacy wrote:Yes. It’s called a name.

Yup, I just find it annoying when people act like the crime is somehow worse or proof that some dumb, discriminatory policy should be implemented just because the criminal happens to be a minority

Very true. If a white person and a black person both kill someone, both of them are horrible human beings, no more or less than the other. Honestly, I think it's the media's tactic to get more attention
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Imperial Cecilia wrote:
Soviet Fighter Plane wrote:Yup, I just find it annoying when people act like the crime is somehow worse or proof that some dumb, discriminatory policy should be implemented just because the criminal happens to be a minority

Very true. If a white person and a black person both kill someone, both of them are horrible human beings, no more or less than the other. Honestly, I think it's the media's tactic to get more attention

Nah, it’s called identity politics. The lamestream media are more concerned with the colour of the guy who dunnit than the sheer scumbagginess of the guy.
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Postby Imperial Cecilia » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:44 pm

All-American Confederacy wrote:
Imperial Cecilia wrote:Very true. If a white person and a black person both kill someone, both of them are horrible human beings, no more or less than the other. Honestly, I think it's the media's tactic to get more attention

Nah, it’s called identity politics. The lamestream media are more concerned with the colour of the guy who dunnit than the sheer scumbagginess of the guy.

Exactly, which is why they get more views.
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Postby All-American Confederacy » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:52 pm

Imperial Cecilia wrote:
All-American Confederacy wrote:Nah, it’s called identity politics. The lamestream media are more concerned with the colour of the guy who dunnit than the sheer scumbagginess of the guy.

Exactly, which is why they get more views.

But the problem is - people are sick of it. Look at the 2024 election. Kamala was practically primed to win, and the lamestream just kept yammering and yammering on about how Trump was a racist, bigoted donkey. A LOT. And yet, here we are.
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