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[REPORT] “All X are Y” trolling.

Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:48 am

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Calling all Zionist (an anti-Semitic dog whistle) “depraved” and “morally bankrupt”.


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Postby The Overmind » Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:41 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

For context, Zionism is not an "anti-Semitic dog whistle," it's a political position.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:49 am

The Overmind wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

For context, Zionism is not an "anti-Semitic dog whistle," it's a political position.

I stand by my words.
But this is not NSG, where I would be happy to argue with you about this.


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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:16 pm

/bump


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Postby Ineva » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:25 am

Is this still being investigated?
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Postby Manlinesslavia » Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:45 am

I'm curious too. It's been a while.

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Postby Crazy girl » Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:16 pm

Not actionable.

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Postby Ineva » Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:17 pm

Many thanks.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:12 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Not actionable.

Would like to request a second opinion. This is very clearly describing “zionists” as “morally bankrupt” and “depraved”.


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Postby Prydania » Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:15 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Not actionable.

Ding me for spamming moderation... I admit I'm doing that... but this is clearly an "All X are Y" situation.
If that's against the rules, apply the rules fairly.
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Postby Cessarea » Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:44 pm

Prydania wrote:
Crazy girl wrote:Not actionable.

Ding me for spamming moderation... I admit I'm doing that... but this is clearly an "All X are Y" situation.
If that's against the rules, apply the rules fairly.

This is spamming moderation. Regardless, I'd like to bring up the full reported quote here: for ease of access, and to remind everyone about the point The Overmind made.

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Cyptopir wrote:anti-semites being indirectly supported by those they target will never not be funny to me

They'd rather have a Nazi who materially supports the Zionist state than an anti-Zionist Jew on their side. This just shows the moral bankruptcy and depravity of Zionists.


The highlighting is mine. In the same sentence, Manlinesslavia referred to Jews and Zionists separately. Clearly they're using it to refer to the political stance of Zionism, per The Overmind's clarification, not as a dog-whistle. This was a critique of a political ideology, not a provocation of an entire ethnicity. I'd like to bring up an earlier post in this thread by the reported user:

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Ineva wrote:If that was a Nazi salute, someone ought to arrest my city's crossing guards.

What an absolute joke.

Of course the Zionists are in full denial. If they see a flight attendant wearing a watermelon pin they cry and shit themselves, but if the world's richest man does two full Nazi salutes on stage it's perfectly fine because he supports their genocidal settler state.
You guys aren't even trying to keep the mask on anymore, and I love it.


Highlight is mine, again. The use of "genocidal settler state" indicates that this user is consciously using Zionism to refer to the ideological bases of Israel as a State, not Jews or any other particular group of people that could be offended (and trolled) by generalisations.
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Postby Alkzine » Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:24 pm

Gaslighting has never and continues not to be an appropriate response to troll-based slurs.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:06 am

Cessarea wrote:
Prydania wrote:Ding me for spamming moderation... I admit I'm doing that... but this is clearly an "All X are Y" situation.
If that's against the rules, apply the rules fairly.

This is spamming moderation. Regardless, I'd like to bring up the full reported quote here: for ease of access, and to remind everyone about the point The Overmind made.

Manlinesslavia wrote:They'd rather have a Nazi who materially supports the Zionist state than an anti-Zionist Jew on their side. This just shows the moral bankruptcy and depravity of Zionists.


The highlighting is mine. In the same sentence, Manlinesslavia referred to Jews and Zionists separately. Clearly they're using it to refer to the political stance of Zionism, per The Overmind's clarification, not as a dog-whistle. This was a critique of a political ideology, not a provocation of an entire ethnicity. I'd like to bring up an earlier post in this thread by the reported user:

Manlinesslavia wrote:Of course the Zionists are in full denial. If they see a flight attendant wearing a watermelon pin they cry and shit themselves, but if the world's richest man does two full Nazi salutes on stage it's perfectly fine because he supports their genocidal settler state.
You guys aren't even trying to keep the mask on anymore, and I love it.


Highlight is mine, again. The use of "genocidal settler state" indicates that this user is consciously using Zionism to refer to the ideological bases of Israel as a State, not Jews or any other particular group of people that could be offended (and trolled) by generalisations.

For reference, I was referring to trolling people with pro-Israeli sentiments, who are often referred to by Hamas supporters as “Zionist”, which is also defined by the American Jewish Committee as an anti-Semitic term (here). Therefore, my report still stands.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:41 am

Prydania wrote:Ding me for spamming moderation... I admit I'm doing that... but this is clearly an "All X are Y" situation.
If that's against the rules, apply the rules fairly.

Alkzine wrote:Gaslighting has never and continues not to be an appropriate response to troll-based slurs.

Let's not spam Moderation. A second opinion has been requested and will be given after adequate reflection. Given I belong to the targeted group and my opinions on the topic are well-known and compromise the appearance of impartiality, I will not be offering said second opinion, but, rest assured, a colleague will reply in short order. Until then, let's try to keep commentary constructive and helpful. Please do not post unless you're adding something to the report. Thank you.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Fri Feb 07, 2025 5:35 am

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