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[R] Trollnaming and Baiting

Postby New haven america » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:52 pm

Uiiop wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:The fact that you actually think Ifreann criticizing Democrats means they're going right wing shows that you really know nothing about Ifreann.

NHA has been here long enough to know better....The only reason they come into such spacious conclusions is that they're too disgusted by NSG to not insult us and hope it cancels us somehow or whatever.

In other words a troll.


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The Lone Alliance wrote:If Biden Reversed everything days ago someone didn't give Tik Tok the memo.

It's not like Tik Tok isn't playing hard to support trump even if Biden didn't do anything. That part is easy enough for the Blue MAGA type NHA is larping as to use as an explanation.


And before you go "Just ignore him" I already was, you can look through it yourself, this is him unprovoked.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:08 pm

Troll-naming is for posts without substance besides the accusation.


Pointing out the history that would counter one being ignorant of making a character attack and concluding one set out to be inflammatory as a alternative guess ain't the same thing.
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:28 pm

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Postby New haven america » Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:30 pm

And another for the pile from another thread because he can't help himself:

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Tarsonis wrote:
Ironically, so would I. No shame in being Pro-Choice, I'm Pro-Choice myself. But agreeing with a position doesn't mean allowing obviously made up bullshit, like "Christianity was fine with Abortion for 1800 years, until the Catholic Church changed their mind, and everyone followed suit." to go unchecked. Inventing false narratives to try and support a position only demonstrates a lack of confidence in the merits of the position.




That's how he approaches every topic. That's just him.

His approach is more akin to a p-zombie with how he's kept the same tone despite flip-flopping.

All sound and fury signifying nothing but excuses for tone.

Again, have not replied to him once, at all. Completely unprovoked.
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Postby Uiiop » Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:41 pm

"flip-flopping" in description of how one argues rather than their entire character is not really that different from how mods criticize players.
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Postby United Calanworie » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:54 am

This is not actionable.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:09 am

United Calanworie wrote:This is not actionable.

So, just so we're clear, it ok to go into threads with people we don't like, call them trolls, and then throw out flame bait for good measure? That's completely fine, correct? (And again. I have not interacted with said user for months, maybe a year at this point)

Yeah, 2nd opinion requested.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:27 am

Frorthere Moasson wrote:Second opinon granted.

I agree with you

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Postby Fahran » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:39 pm

Second opinion. Not actionable.

Troll-naming is problematic not because it constitutes flame-baiting, but, rather, because it constitutes spamming. While a post simply labelling someone a troll would 100% be actionable, the post that was reported included the following text as well.

NHA has been here long enough to know better....The only reason they come into such spacious conclusions is that they're too disgusted by NSG to not insult us and hope it cancels us somehow or whatever.


Taken alone, this doesn't constitute troll-naming.

With regard to the other posts, "Blue MAGA" and "LARPing" can certainly be loaded phrases, but do not inherently constitute flame-baiting either. They can be discussed and debated within the boundaries allowed by the rules.

And the last comment is a critique of your approach to the conversation.

None of these is inherently actionable. That said, if you believe you're experiencing sustained harassment, I would encourage you to document the offending posts and work to submit a report related to more long-standing behavior, especially if such comments are unrelated to threads you're participating in or debates you're having.
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