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[DRAFT] Commend Kractero

Postby Millenhaal » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:38 pm

You may be aware of the existence of another draft for this nominee, and to address some potential concerns in a forthright fashion, that draft was not consulted in the process of this proposal's creation. We believe this draft to have more potential than the extant one. Also, this will likely be submitted on my WA member puppet of Saint Croix. That said, happy reading!

This Security Council,

Knowing that, in the field of international artwork, only a select few nations rise above the rest and leave a lasting impact on the landscape akin to those that this august body has honored, such as 9003, Destructive Government Economic System, and 1 very fast endotarter,

Wholeheartedly believing that the nation of Kractero is worthy to be included amongst these ranks, having forged a positive legacy that is sure to be admired for all time,

Wowed by Kractero’s achievements in artwork collection, whose galleries contain prized artworks of value and beauty, even owning a copy of every artwork deemed “Legendary” by the International Artwork Commission, a feat coveted by many but achieved by very few,

Noting that, whilst Kractero is proficient in many areas of international artwork, the nation shines the brightest in their contributions to artwork-related technology, constructing innovative applications, scripts and programs to perform near-every function imaginable,

Amazed by the unwavering dedication of Kracterian artists to crafting flags and banners for each of the thousands of satellite states which the nation controls, ensuring that every piece of artwork created of these nations looks the best that it can, and even creating the Inscription Assistant tool which allowed this painstaking work to be expedited significantly,

Praising Kractero’s painstaking development of the application of Hare, which concentrates myriad disparate programs into one user-friendly application available online, taking artwork scripting, which was once a practice reserved for the smartest connoisseurs, into something even a simple hobbyist could engage with, persevering through infinite iterations, endless improvements, and constant tweaking to produce the best possible product,

Appreciating that Kractero retooled and reworked scripts for this new that had been developed by their predecessors, such as GotIssues, originally created by 9003, which allows for unprecedented rates of art production, and JunkDaJunk, also created by 9003, which allows collectors to keep what they desire and discard the rest in a more expedient way than manually investigating every single work,

Awed by Kractero’s seemingly reality-bending powers in the creation of the tool Cardtainers, which allows enterprising art-collecting nations to operate the governments of multiple satellites at one time, and do it much better than the previously established tool for doing so, which was not designed for artwork,

Extolling the many useful artwork utilities Kractero has designed, making the lives of art snobs the world over significantly easier, such as:
  • Legendary Tracker, which keeps a database of all legendary nations, the editions they achieved this honor in, and whether or not those nations are extant at any given time, providing a useful resource to keep tabs on the oft-maligned ceased-to-exist legendaries,
  • The Kractero Card Queries, officially titled “Kee” which provides at an instant a list of artworks that meet any desired specifications, a core application for any would-be curator, which is similar to the inactive North Pacific Card Queries, but with significant interface improvements and bettered functionality,
  • Bazaar, a detailed log of every single trade ever conducted in the international auction house, even dating back to the building’s mysterious coalescence on April 1st, 2018,
  • Gold Ledger, a comprehensive leaderboard, that meticulously tracks the top 100 most valuable collections of artwork from across the world, offering an unrivaled resource for comparing the cultural treasures curated by nations,

Exalting the ubiquity of Kractero’s scripts amongst the entire international artwork community, with nearly every collector using them on a regular basis, demonstrating in perfect clarity how Kractero continues to go above and beyond when developing technology, consistently smashing expectations,

Hereby commends Kractero.


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Postby Fachumonn » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:40 pm

Competing drafts... not competing drafts!

Edit: I must ask, do you have permission? Because y'know, usually they only give permission to one group?

Edit 2: If so support, I think this is better written
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Postby Millenhaal » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:46 pm

Fachumonn wrote:Competing drafts... not competing drafts!

Edit: I must ask, do you have permission? Because y'know, usually they only give permission to one group?

Edit 2: If so support, I think this is better written

Yes, Kractero consented to this draft. I’m no amateur :p
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Postby Fachumonn » Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:56 pm

Millenhaal wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Competing drafts... not competing drafts!

Edit: I must ask, do you have permission? Because y'know, usually they only give permission to one group?

Edit 2: If so support, I think this is better written

Yes, Kractero consented to this draft. I’m no amateur :p

Just wondering in this specific case :p
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Postby Waterfall State » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:36 am

The Inscription Assistant was created with parts originally written by Ducky, from my browsing of the card discord
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Postby Millenhaal » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:51 am

Waterfall State wrote:The Inscription Assistant was created with parts originally written by Ducky, from my browsing of the card discord

I didn’t catch that in my research, thank you! I’ll make sure to fix that in the next draft.
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Postby The Kharkivan Cossacks » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:22 am

Support the commendation.
I aim to provide some critique and suggestions when I can get around to it.
Edit: It appears my dumbass failed to realize there are two commends. This one and UT’s. May I ask why you’re choosing to make your own/challenge the other Mil?
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Postby Mikasa Ackerman » Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:55 am

I personally believe that the nominee is more than worthy for the position and, if we're comparing the quality of the competing drafts, this one is my favorite of the two. Kractero's contributions to the cards community have been felt by countless individuals and the ease of use for the common individual has made something that was once daunting to get into accessible for anyone and everyone, not to mention their helpfulness in addressing any issues that arise.

The main thing I'd argue, however, is the following:
Millenhaal wrote:Amazed by the unwavering dedication of Kracterian artists to crafting flags and banners for each of the thousands of satellite states which the nation controls, ensuring that every piece of artwork created of these nations looks the best that it can, and even creating the Inscription Assistant tool which allowed this painstaking work to be expedited significantly,


I personally don't believe that flagging and bannering thousands of puppets is something Commendable. Yeah it's nice for anime collectors like myself and they did some cool things with some of their puppets, however I don't believe it's something that's worthy of a mention. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Postby Millenhaal » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:52 pm

The Kharkivan Cossacks wrote:Support the commendation.
I aim to provide some critique and suggestions when I can get around to it.
Edit: It appears my dumbass failed to realize there are two commends. This one and UT’s. May I ask why you’re choosing to make your own/challenge the other Mil?

Ernest Drake disguising his involvement to avoid the MGC's sanctions sparked the creation of this alternative draft, but by the time they had expunged his contributions we had finished this draft, and Kivu and I felt ours was of a superior quality.

Mikasa Ackerman wrote:I personally believe that the nominee is more than worthy for the position and, if we're comparing the quality of the competing drafts, this one is my favorite of the two. Kractero's contributions to the cards community have been felt by countless individuals and the ease of use for the common individual has made something that was once daunting to get into accessible for anyone and everyone, not to mention their helpfulness in addressing any issues that arise.

The main thing I'd argue, however, is the following:
Millenhaal wrote:Amazed by the unwavering dedication of Kracterian artists to crafting flags and banners for each of the thousands of satellite states which the nation controls, ensuring that every piece of artwork created of these nations looks the best that it can, and even creating the Inscription Assistant tool which allowed this painstaking work to be expedited significantly,


I personally don't believe that flagging and bannering thousands of puppets is something Commendable. Yeah it's nice for anime collectors like myself and they did some cool things with some of their puppets, however I don't believe it's something that's worthy of a mention. Maybe I'm wrong though.

I disagree on this point. When many puppeteers are content to leave their flags default or with some sort of standardized flag for all of them, it stands out to me when someone goes out of the way to make them look nice and presentable to make the universe's collective packs prettier.
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Postby Vylixan » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:45 am

"Appreciating that Kractero retooled and reworked scripts for this new that had been developed by their predecessors,"



for this new what?




Also, do we really need two separate commends?
I don't think this one is better then the other one. It also shows a disturbing amount of opportunism to see the politics involved in the other commend and then decided to capitalize on it by making a new commend filled with the same commendable things.

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Postby Millenhaal » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:54 am

Vylixan wrote:"Appreciating that Kractero retooled and reworked scripts for this new that had been developed by their predecessors,"



for this new what?




Also, do we really need two separate commends?
I don't think this one is better then the other one. It also shows a disturbing amount of opportunism to see the politics involved in the other commend and then decided to capitalize on it by making a new commend filled with the same commendable things.

Thanks for your correction, it will be fixed soon. Addressing your criticisms, there was a very high chance that the other draft would not have passed due to those political concerns. My goal with this draft was to ensure that Kractero would be commended. I don’t think that’s opportunistic. If you don’t think this draft is better, I’m curious as to why. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Postby Vylixan » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:08 am

Millenhaal wrote:
Vylixan wrote:"Appreciating that Kractero retooled and reworked scripts for this new that had been developed by their predecessors,"



for this new what?

Also, do we really need two separate commends?
I don't think this one is better then the other one. It also shows a disturbing amount of opportunism to see the politics involved in the other commend and then decided to capitalize on it by making a new commend filled with the same commendable things.

Thanks for your correction, it will be fixed soon. Addressing your criticisms, there was a very high chance that the other draft would not have passed due to those political concerns. My goal with this draft was to ensure that Kractero would be commended. I don’t think that’s opportunistic. If you don’t think this draft is better, I’m curious as to why. Any feedback would be appreciated.


I completely agree that Kractero has earned recognition for his contributions. However, it seems opportunistic to introduce a new commendation instead of collaborating with the original draft’s author to address any political or procedural obstacles. That approach would have preserved the effort already invested in the first commendation, ensured Kractero still received praise for his work, and avoided confusion from having two competing commendations. Right now we might end up with two failed commendations back to back.

    * Not attributing the wide-spread usage and support for containers within the cards community to Racoda feels very much like a missed opportunity to me.
    * I prefer linking a nation if you talk about them in the Commendation, so 9003 for example, and Racoda as well if added.
    * I'd argue the current Queries tool is not better and improved in in all functionalities, though it does have some features the old tool did not have. That's a conclusion based on a direct quote from the Queries source code its self. The old TNP queries were more flexible in the logic and had more breadth in combining them. However I suspect that by the time this commendation goes to vote this will have changed since there seems to be an effort on the part of Kractero to revive the TNP queries albeit in a slightly different, and maybe even improved form. So my point here might be a bit moot. I still would rephrase the part about Kee, maybe not compare it with the TNP Queries but on its own merits?
    * Probably a technicality in the long run, but Kractero's Season 4 collection is not yet complete. It's still factual incorrect to claim Kractero having a complete legendaries collectio at this point in time.
    * "Appreciating that Kractero retooled and reworked scripts for this new that had been developed by their predecessors" This part mentions predecessors, but then only names 9003 as predecessor, and that even twice. Maybe extend on this a bit, or rephrase it?
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Postby Bisofeyr » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:09 pm

I think this draft does a better job than the at-vote resolution at expanding on how the tools created by the nominee impacted the world at large, but it still gets a tad listy in places.

I also will echo what I said in the other thread that computational archaeology would be a more interesting lens to view this through, because as it stands this reads as fairly bog-standard, if well-written.
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Postby One Small Island » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:26 pm

If Kractero's only notable achievement in Card Collection is that they've collected every legendary then you should leave that out, because collecting all the legendaries is Uncommon at best, and not a commendable achievement. At least twenty-one people collected all the s1 legendaries, at least 43 have collected all the s2 legendaries, and at least 26 have collected all the s3 legendaries, and some amount have already done so in s4.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:44 pm

Link to the commendations, not the nations (or delete the first line, that would be much better).

Next line is also functionally useless and does not introduce any new information.

Wowed by Kractero’s achievements in artwork collection, whose galleries contain prized artworks of value and beauty, even owning a copy of every artwork deemed “Legendary” by the International Artwork Commission, a feat coveted by many but achieved by very few

Let's be real, nobody is getting commended for this but I understand its inclusion. I'd move it to the end, personally. I'll also point out that Kractero does not presently own every legendary (though they soon will), and this clause may not age well for future seasons. Thus, it may be a good idea to specify the seasons where this was achieved. Most of this clause's text as it stands is repetitive filler so doing so will likely improve its value overall.

Noting that, whilst Kractero is proficient in many areas of international artwork,

To me this reads negatively, since you're saying "kractero is average in most things, but is quite good at this one thing". You can just say that they're good at that one category instead.

Amazed by the unwavering dedication of Kracterian artists to crafting flags and banners for each of the thousands of satellite states which the nation controls, ensuring that every piece of artwork created of these nations looks the best that it can,

I don't see how it's impressive to have flagged puppets unless they have actually created the images themselves, which does not appear to be the case. From a narrative standpoint, this clause also introduces some confusion due to the use of artwork in this piece as both the collectible and the product of kractero, so make sure to bring more clarity there.

and even creating the Inscription Assistant tool which allowed this painstaking work to be expedited significantly,

See, this feels tacked on but is far more interesting than what precedes it.

Praising Kractero’s painstaking development of the application of Hare, which concentrates myriad disparate programs into one user-friendly application available online, taking artwork scripting, which was once a practice reserved for the smartest connoisseurs, into something even a simple hobbyist could engage with, persevering through infinite iterations, endless improvements, and constant tweaking to produce the best possible product,

The rest of the text more or less is related to hare, so it may be worthwhile to make that more clear. You could consider moving this to later in the text, where it would be easier to make it apparent why Hare is particularly useful as a centralized web application. Narratively, what is artwork scripting? That doesn't make much sense with the rest of the canon here, and just feels lazy. The whole end segment of this line should be deleted too.

rest of tech clauses

None of this makes any sense, to be honest. I know what all of these tools do, but there is no chance that the 'average wa voter' can understand any of these things. I think you need to take a step back and think about how to craft a consistent image for the entire resolution, standardizing your language and terms to make it clear why these things are useful to card players.

Exalting the ubiquity of Kractero’s scripts amongst the entire international artwork community, with nearly every collector using them on a regular basis, demonstrating in perfect clarity how Kractero continues to go above and beyond when developing technology, consistently smashing expectations,

Another non-clause with built in redundancy. A conclusion can be useful, but this one is not. 'ubiquity', 'entire community', 'every collector', 'regular basis' all say the exact same thing. What perfect clarity are we being given by understanding that people use their tools. What expectations are we smashing here? Is every trader supposed to hit a scripting baseline?

Kractero is indeed a great member of the cards community, but this text doesn't really convince me that they're as influential to the cards community as some of the people recognized before them. Look, this is better than the other one but that's about it.

One Small Island wrote:If Kractero's only notable achievement in Card Collection is that they've collected every legendary then you should leave that out, because collecting all the legendaries is Uncommon at best, and not a commendable achievement. At least twenty-one people collected all the s1 legendaries, at least 43 have collected all the s2 legendaries, and at least 26 have collected all the s3 legendaries, and some amount have already done so in s4.
So far it's just me in s4, but I think the number of people who have done s1-s3 in total is much lower. Still, as noted above, I largely agree with this sentiment.
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Postby Millenhaal » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:57 pm

I’ve got all the feedback I need to craft a second draft, back to the mines.
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