by Fanvm Tax » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:07 pm
by Spoonbreaker » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:12 pm
by Park0ur Civilization » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:14 pm
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by Earthly Cossack » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:17 pm
by Vastiuq » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:17 pm
by Fjolmidlum » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:24 pm
by Knights of LUSITANIA » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:38 pm
Earthly Cossack wrote:I have three letters to give you on this:
GHR.
That is the appropriate place for game side issues and moderation acts.
Fjolmidlum wrote:As I understand it, "autistic screeching" type comments are generally considered trolling as they are typically only used to be antagonistic and don't contribute to the discussion to boot. The reason it is called autistic screeching is because, well, that's what it's been called for a while and where that usage of "REEEE" originated from.
by Fanvm Tax » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:58 pm
Park0ur Civilization wrote:Yeah no this is bad, but it's only one day so you probably won’t get it appealed. The best thing you can do is try and get the mods to not consider it part of your history.
Oh wait this isn’t you
My point still applies. Get him to talk to the mods about it.
by Fjolmidlum » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:00 pm
Knights of LUSITANIA wrote:Fjolmidlum wrote:As I understand it, "autistic screeching" type comments are generally considered trolling as they are typically only used to be antagonistic and don't contribute to the discussion to boot. The reason it is called autistic screeching is because, well, that's what it's been called for a while and where that usage of "REEEE" originated from.
1) Nobody else seems to "understand it", is there a reasonably extensive history of forum warnings being handed out for "autistic screeching"? In what contexts?
2) It is impossible to consider that user's comment as "trolling", it is unreasonable and unfair to presume anyone would think that reply was any more offensive than "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" which they responded, I may add, to a roleplay post as part of a long multi-hour (multi-day even) RMB posting chain about a regional civil war RP. Nation 1 says they're pulling out their armies, Nation 2 doesn't want that b/c they've been stoking the fire of the military conflict for a couple of weeks now, hence, "autistic screeching" (a display of frustration, not an antagonistic remark or a joke at the expense of anyone else (besides maybe himself).
3) "don't contribute to the discussion to boot" But its THEIR discussion, THEY know what contributes and what doesn't (frankly it does because seeing TIS getting frustrated that Crumpetopia peaced out of the conflict just b/c someone corrected the spelling of their national motto is hilarious)
by Earthly Cossack » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:02 pm
Fanvm Tax wrote:
>appeal
>nothing happens
>stays in your history
>3-20x of these kinds of warnings later (some of which aren't appealed b/c "whybother:(.jpeg", the rest get a "No, because, well, your history [which we made] was taken into account here!")
>account deleted
Do you see why the problem is systematic, self-perpetuating, and largely hidden away from the public (b/c these discussions seldom leave the private Help section exchange)?
Again, the problem isn't just the warning itself, this isn't an appeal thread, it's a [DISCUSSION] thread.
The mod guidelines are messed up, the gameside warning system is opaque, and you can see it is dysfunctional (and possibly even corrupt) ONLY when a decision this out of left field pops up in an RMB- where it usually DIES, unseen by the rest of the NationStates community, and with player pleads unanswered by whomever trawls the RMB for actionable material. This is messed up.
by The Overmind » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:04 pm
Fanvm Tax wrote:So I was scrolling through the Fifth Empire RMB when I saw that The Iron Stars had been RMB banned for 1 day for saying "Reeeeeeeeeee" because "Autistic screech comments are not acceptable". Not only is this a gross abuse of moderation power (pretty sure onomatopoeia doesn't violate the site rules) and unprofessional, but it is also deeply offensive to the many users of this site who are actually autistic to describe such a post as an "autistic screech". Not only this, but the discussion was in-character roleplay, and as such, it is even more absurd that such a benign post was seen as rule-breaking.(Image)
by Ultra Earth » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:05 pm
The Overmind wrote:Fanvm Tax wrote:So I was scrolling through the Fifth Empire RMB when I saw that The Iron Stars had been RMB banned for 1 day for saying "Reeeeeeeeeee" because "Autistic screech comments are not acceptable". Not only is this a gross abuse of moderation power (pretty sure onomatopoeia doesn't violate the site rules) and unprofessional, but it is also deeply offensive to the many users of this site who are actually autistic to describe such a post as an "autistic screech". Not only this, but the discussion was in-character roleplay, and as such, it is even more absurd that such a benign post was seen as rule-breaking.(Image)
I'm autistic. It mocks autistic people. Moderation got it right.
by The Overmind » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:06 pm
by Ultra Earth » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:07 pm
by Earthly Cossack » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:08 pm
by The Overmind » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:10 pm
by Park0ur Civilization » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:11 pm
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by Neo-Hermitius » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:12 pm
Cyptopir wrote:The most hypocritical hypocrite who ever hypocrited.
by Of The Revived Soviet Union » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:13 pm
by The Overmind » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:14 pm
Park0ur Civilization wrote:The Overmind wrote:You're firmly in the minority.
Just because the onomatopoeia OP used happens to have negative connotations like that doesn’t mean it’s bad.
1. I don’t think it’s that funny but that’s more because it’s not my style of comedy than anything inherent.
2. He wasn’t using it to mock autistic people, he was using it as an obvious joke. Just because that specific onomatopoeia is sometimes used to mock autistic people doesn’t make a use of it that is clearly not in that way bad.
by Fjolmidlum » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:17 pm
by Arelont » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:17 pm
The Overmind wrote:Park0ur Civilization wrote:Just because the onomatopoeia OP used happens to have negative connotations like that doesn’t mean it’s bad.
1. I don’t think it’s that funny but that’s more because it’s not my style of comedy than anything inherent.
2. He wasn’t using it to mock autistic people, he was using it as an obvious joke. Just because that specific onomatopoeia is sometimes used to mock autistic people doesn’t make a use of it that is clearly not in that way bad.
Using a known pejorative reference to autistic people to make a joke is mocking autistic people. It's also long since been held up in moderation rulings as trolling. This is nothing new. Again, moderation got it right.
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by The Overmind » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:19 pm
Arelont wrote:The Overmind wrote:Using a known pejorative reference to autistic people to make a joke is mocking autistic people. It's also long since been held up in moderation rulings as trolling. This is nothing new. Again, moderation got it right.
What if.. it was like, completely unrelated to autistic people?
From what I am reading I think you assume that whoever wrote the "reee" is targeting it against autistic people. It could just be unrelated yknow
by Park0ur Civilization » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:20 pm
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