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'love marriage' vs 'chosen marriage' vs 'arranged marriage'

Postby Lemueria » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:43 pm

You know, many love marriages appear to be great in the beginning, but then turn out pretty mediocre afterwards, this is what happened with some of my relatives'. But a more interesting thing is that there are some marriages that are chose by the couple but not based on love, but just on relief or something. These technically are also chose but aren't arranged, what do we call them? Should we just use 'chosen marriages'?

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Postby Social Democrats » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:45 pm

I'd say that love marriages are a sub-cathegory of chosen marriages.
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Postby New Aswal » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:45 pm

"You know, many love marriages appear to be great in the beginning, but then turn out pretty mediocre afterwards"
Excuse me op what do you mean by this :blink:
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Postby Lemueria » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:47 pm

New Aswal wrote:"You know, many love marriages appear to be great in the beginning, but then turn out pretty mediocre afterwards"
Excuse me op what do you mean by this :blink:

Well it seems like that blind love does not excuse the fact that there is more beyond that and certainly later in marriages when we added the burden of children, finance, and everything, it decreases.

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Postby Lemueria » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:48 pm

Social Democrats wrote:I'd say that love marriages are a sub-cathegory of chosen marriages.

Alright. That does make sense. It just irked me that it is kinda thought that every chosen marriage has to be a love marriage, like very rarely are other types sawn. Like in my own family there are great occasions of non-love chosen marriages.

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Postby New Aswal » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:49 pm

Lemueria wrote:
New Aswal wrote:"You know, many love marriages appear to be great in the beginning, but then turn out pretty mediocre afterwards"
Excuse me op what do you mean by this :blink:

Well it seems like that blind love does not excuse the fact that there is more beyond that and certainly later in marriages when we added the burden of children, finance, and everything, it decreases.


Did they tell you this themselves..?
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Postby Lemueria » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:51 pm

New Aswal wrote:
Lemueria wrote:Well it seems like that blind love does not excuse the fact that there is more beyond that and certainly later in marriages when we added the burden of children, finance, and everything, it decreases.


Did they tell you this themselves..?

Yes. The main thing that in that specific marriage led to a decline was that really not much of the other partner's family was known, and behaviors, and those weren't the best to say the least. I cannot say more for privacy purposes but yeah.

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Postby New Aswal » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:55 pm

Lemueria wrote:
New Aswal wrote:
Did they tell you this themselves..?

Yes. The main thing that in that specific marriage led to a decline was that really not much of the other partner's family was known, and behaviors, and those weren't the best to say the least. I cannot say more for privacy purposes but yeah.


So let me get this straight, you claim marriages become mediocre after time, but it is only a generalisation of all marriages after another family had incompatible parents, and you blame this on time and the "burden of children, finance, and everything"

Really alarming how you labeled children as burdens like they're a bunch of parasites
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Postby The Galactic Authority of Progress » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 pm

Arranged marriages are a bit too far, but people shouldn’t marry because of a romantic infatuation, either. Its best for people to marry someone they’ve known for a long time from a non-romantic context e.g as childhood friends. Sometimes, people fall in love with someone who’s actually horrible, or just incompatible with them, and they marry before they find out, so they have to divorce. You should really know whoever you marry. Though maybe this wouldn’t be a problem if people were better at picking up on red flags + didn’t have so many partners + didn’t consume soybean oil.
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Postby Nuraghe » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:59 am

Arranged marriages are fine if they are consented to. I went to school with a girl from a culture where arranged marriages were practiced and when she was ready she asked her parents to find her a husband. It was fully consensual. The problem is that a large portion of arranged marriages, if not most of them, are not consensual.

The term "love marriage" makes me feel uneasy.
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Postby New Aswal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:19 am

Nuraghe wrote:Arranged marriages are fine if they are consented to. I went to school with a girl from a culture where arranged marriages were practiced and when she was ready she asked her parents to find her a husband. It was fully consensual. The problem is that a large portion of arranged marriages, if not most of them, are not consensual.

The term "love marriage" makes me feel uneasy.


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Postby Lemueria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:58 am

New Aswal wrote:
Lemueria wrote:Yes. The main thing that in that specific marriage led to a decline was that really not much of the other partner's family was known, and behaviors, and those weren't the best to say the least. I cannot say more for privacy purposes but yeah.


So let me get this straight, you claim marriages become mediocre after time, but it is only a generalisation of all marriages after another family had incompatible parents, and you blame this on time and the "burden of children, finance, and everything"

Really alarming how you labeled children as burdens like they're a bunch of parasites

They can definitely technically be burdens.

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Postby Unogonduria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:00 am

Even though I would like to marry before turning 25/26, I can see the argument that it's not a very good idea since the brain doesn't fully mature before 25.
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Postby Kyete » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:04 am

Lemueria wrote:
New Aswal wrote:
So let me get this straight, you claim marriages become mediocre after time, but it is only a generalisation of all marriages after another family had incompatible parents, and you blame this on time and the "burden of children, finance, and everything"

Really alarming how you labeled children as burdens like they're a bunch of parasites

They can definitely technically be burdens.


I mean, I see how you could say that (at least financially), but that's a really sucky thing to say about other people. It's like calling injured workers a burden because they can't work.

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Postby Southglory » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:07 am

Kyete wrote:
Lemueria wrote:They can definitely technically be burdens.


I mean, I see how you could say that (at least financially), but that's a really sucky thing to say about other people. It's like calling injured workers a burden because they can't work.


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Postby New Aswal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:09 am

Lemueria wrote:
New Aswal wrote:
So let me get this straight, you claim marriages become mediocre after time, but it is only a generalisation of all marriages after another family had incompatible parents, and you blame this on time and the "burden of children, finance, and everything"

Really alarming how you labeled children as burdens like they're a bunch of parasites

They can definitely technically be burdens.


Alright, suit yourself. What about my other point?
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Postby Cyptopir » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:10 am

Anything but arranged marriage. Go wild, marry who you want for what you want, as long as you both agree to it. I mean, I would marry a friend just for mutual tax benefits.
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Postby Cyptopir » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am

Southglory wrote:
Kyete wrote:
I mean, I see how you could say that (at least financially), but that's a really sucky thing to say about other people. It's like calling injured workers a burden because they can't work.


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Postby New Aswal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am

Cyptopir wrote:Anything but arranged marriage. Go wild, marry who you want for what you want, as long as you both agree to it. I mean, I would marry a friend just for mutual tax benefits.


That can be taken wildly out of context.
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Postby Lemueria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:12 am

New Aswal wrote:
Lemueria wrote:They can definitely technically be burdens.


Alright, suit yourself. What about my other point?

Well I just meant that the first thing you would think about is not going to be love or something when there are several thousand other things to deal with.

And both financially and emotionally, especially for the mother.

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Postby Cyptopir » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:13 am

New Aswal wrote:
Cyptopir wrote:Anything but arranged marriage. Go wild, marry who you want for what you want, as long as you both agree to it. I mean, I would marry a friend just for mutual tax benefits.


That can be taken wildly out of context.

Ok? So can every post ever?
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Postby New Aswal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:15 am

Lemueria wrote:
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Alright, suit yourself. What about my other point?

Well I just meant that the first thing you would think about is not going to be love or something when there are several thousand other things to deal with.

And both financially and emotionally, especially for the mother.


Who in the world doesn't think about love when they consider if they want to marry a person?
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Postby Southglory » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:15 am

Cyptopir wrote:
Southglory wrote:
We must cull the weak and eat the strong.

Who will eat the strong? The weak? You culled them!


Dang I ran out of some options, uh the adequate?
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Postby Lemueria » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:16 am

New Aswal wrote:
Lemueria wrote:Well I just meant that the first thing you would think about is not going to be love or something when there are several thousand other things to deal with.

And both financially and emotionally, especially for the mother.


Who in the world doesn't think about love when they consider if they want to marry a person?

...Like anyone that is not from the elite club of superdeveloped NATO countries. And several people there too a lot of times.

But that's not even my point, my point is about love over time.

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Lemueria wrote:
New Aswal wrote:"You know, many love marriages appear to be great in the beginning, but then turn out pretty mediocre afterwards"
Excuse me op what do you mean by this :blink:

Well it seems like that blind love does not excuse the fact that there is more beyond that and certainly later in marriages when we added the burden of children, finance, and everything, it decreases.

This isn't guaranteed to happen though. It's certainly possible but definitely not inevitable.
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