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Postby Of The Revived Soviet Union » Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:54 pm

So, I have an important question.

I may be withdrawing Alkzine's co-auth of one of my proposals because of his stigma within the GA for transphobia, among other things.

If he were to let me withdraw co-auth, would that still be plagiarism, considering the resolution contains MANY segments from his original one?
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Postby The Overmind » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:31 pm

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For context, this is the GA, not the SC, and I suggested this [Q] thread to clear up whether requesting that a coauthor drop claim to their work satisfies any potential accusations of plagiarism out of an abundance of caution.
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Postby The Ice States » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:13 pm

Hello! The GA Secretariat does not have jurisdiction on plagiarism issues, which are ruled on by Moderation. That said, questions towards the GA Secretariat would be best in this thread going forward.
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Postby The Overmind » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:42 pm

The Ice States wrote:Hello! The GA Secretariat does not have jurisdiction on plagiarism issues, which are ruled on by Moderation. That said, questions towards the GA Secretariat would be best in this thread going forward.

The title originally said SC, but I think they misinterpreted my correction to mean they had just requested the wrong Secretariat. As The Ice States mentioned, plagiarism is a matter of site policy, not the legality of proposals, so belongs here, in moderation, answered by a moderator.
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Postby Refuge Isle » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:05 pm

Since you've already said both here and in the draft that your co-author contributed heavily, having their blessing is pretty integral to the proposal. If the co-author says you can use their texts, then that's fine. If they do not give permission, then it would be plagiarism since you're stealing their work against their will.

Dispassionately, if people oppose your co-author, you're unlikely to score additional points when their name is no longer on the tin if you're still working together or using everything they did.

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Postby Elyreia » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:47 pm

I will chyme in without much officialness, but while the other authors has one time stated they would be fine with you taking their draft and redoing it, I feel they may try to revoke that consent in the future. I feel you may be better served rewriting the entire thing from scratch, perhaps with a different angle of attack or defense to ensure no overlap.
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Postby The Overmind » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:51 pm

Elyreia wrote:I will chyme in without much officialness, but while the other authors has one time stated they would be fine with you taking their draft and redoing it, I feel they may try to revoke that consent in the future. I feel you may be better served rewriting the entire thing from scratch, perhaps with a different angle of attack or defense to ensure no overlap.

Since this is a [Q] thread, I feel like once an author makes a public acknowledgment of releasing their work, that's final, right, Refuge Isle? Or am I mistaken?
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Postby Alkzine » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:28 pm

fully opposed to my work being used (or, rather, twisted) in this authoritarian way—although it’s humorous to see those nations who baselessly attacked me as homophobic still reliant on it. to clarify: i’m requesting my work, including preambles, be removed.
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Postby The Overmind » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:55 pm

For context, the content of the draft thread to which Alkzine is referring has already been deleted and the thread locked by Goobergunchia.
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Postby Elyreia » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:10 pm

Alkzine wrote:although it’s humorous to see those nations who baselessly attacked me as homophobic still reliant on it. to


Nation*.

No one else is on that draft nor have contributed in any substantial way. If you have problems with me and Over mind I recommend finding more factual things to complain about. Trust me, there's plenty for you not to like.
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Postby Goobergunchia » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:22 pm

Not seeing anything that requires further Moderation attention here.
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