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A New Utopia - V2

Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:05 pm

Following from the logic of its previous iterations, this will be of essentially the same concept but on a far grander scale. You will attempt to navigate through history, constructing a shining city upon a hill, with each aspect modified until completely flawless. Or, at least… until it’s good enough.

However, reflecting upon the mistakes of the past, there have been a few rules installed. READ THEM BEFORE BEGINNING - I CANNOT STATE THIS ENOUGH.

1. No godmodding, aside from the mods if it violates one of the laws.

2. No idealism. Everything has a prior cost, and everything has consequences. Everyone begins with legitimately nothing aside from the flesh on their bones. Nothing more. If you want a space station? Cool! Go ahead! You just have to figure out everything else.

3. No monkey business/silliness. Every action should be ideally devoted to either creating a good - but realistic - town, or furthering your own interests. There will be no actions that are actively done for a joke.

4. Always follow the Golden Rule.

5. If you want something, you have to work for it. If you want to drill for oil, you need to uncover the technology. If you want to uncover the technology, you need to find a reservoir. So on and so forth. In short, you begin as cavemen, and work your way up from there.

6. Expanding upon the previous idea, this thread shall follow the natural progression of history. No, you cannot have a representative parliamentary democracy upon year two of the towns existence. It’s either tribal oligarchy, priest-based monarchy, or you don’t play at all. For simplicity’s sake, we’re following the Whig model of history.

Now, this cities name shall be Waelscyr. It is based within wide, open, fertile plains, and it stands alongside a river. Go.
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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:07 pm

/Bump.
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Postby Seroscapia » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:07 pm

Mr Seroscapia announces plan of opening a library in the town square, and starts slowly building the place with manpower and materials bought with the money from his previous lemonade stand. Book donation campaign succeeds. (suspended)
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Postby Grandocantorica » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:09 pm

Question, is this a complete reset?
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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:11 pm

Grandocantorica wrote:Question, is this a complete reset?

Yep. Both in technology and in history.
Seroscapia wrote:Mr Seroscapia announces plan of opening a library in the town square, and starts slowly building the place with manpower and materials bought with the money from his previous lemonade stand. Book donation campaign succeeds. (suspended)

Ah, nope. You need to figure out writing first. And before then, extract the resources needed to conduct writing. And before then, find the resources. In short - you begin as essential cavemen.
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Postby Satreburg 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:12 pm

I will start to build a wooden house from the woods that were chopped down.
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Postby Alvosa » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:13 pm

Kasdados wrote:
Grandocantorica wrote:Question, is this a complete reset?

Yep. Both in technology and in history.
Seroscapia wrote:Mr Seroscapia announces plan of opening a library in the town square, and starts slowly building the place with manpower and materials bought with the money from his previous lemonade stand. Book donation campaign succeeds. (suspended)

Ah, nope. You need to figure out writing first. And before then, extract the resources needed to conduct writing. And before then, find the resources. In short - you begin as essential cavemen.

So were simulating the entire journey of human civilization?
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Postby Grandocantorica » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:13 pm

I build a hut using sticks, wheat and sticky stuff.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:13 pm

Kasdados wrote:
Grandocantorica wrote:Question, is this a complete reset?

Yep. Both in technology and in history.
Seroscapia wrote:Mr Seroscapia announces plan of opening a library in the town square, and starts slowly building the place with manpower and materials bought with the money from his previous lemonade stand. Book donation campaign succeeds. (suspended)

Ah, nope. You need to figure out writing first. And before then, extract the resources needed to conduct writing. And before then, find the resources. In short - you begin as essential cavemen.

For the sake of ease, could we start in the modern day?


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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:14 pm

Grandocantorica wrote:I build a hut using sticks, wheat and sticky stuff.

And I’ll begin via doing the exact same thing.
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Kasdados wrote:Yep. Both in technology and in history.

Ah, nope. You need to figure out writing first. And before then, extract the resources needed to conduct writing. And before then, find the resources. In short - you begin as essential cavemen.

For the sake of ease, could we start in the modern day?

Nope. It’s either Ooga-Booga, or Nooga-Gooma.
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Postby Seroscapia » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:15 pm

I start building a shack by the river made out of stones, a lot of them, glued.
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Postby Satreburg 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:17 pm

Seroscapia wrote:I start building a shack by the river made out of stones, a lot of them, glued.

Don’t know when glue were invented.
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Postby Grandocantorica » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:17 pm

I start exploring the forest and I discover lots of trees and a waterfall.
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Postby Alvosa » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:18 pm

I will find some cows and build a shack and small farm.
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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:18 pm

Alvosa wrote:
Kasdados wrote:Yep. Both in technology and in history.

Ah, nope. You need to figure out writing first. And before then, extract the resources needed to conduct writing. And before then, find the resources. In short - you begin as essential cavemen.

So we’re simulating the entire journey of human civilization?

Completely correct. From birth till its presumable end.

Here’s the theme song, by the way.
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Postby Satreburg 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Grandocantorica wrote:I start exploring the forest and I discover lots of trees and a waterfall.

According what to our starting location, we are on the wide flat terrain with a riverbank.
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Postby Seroscapia » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:20 pm

Satreburg 2 wrote:
Seroscapia wrote:I start building a shack by the river made out of stones, a lot of them, glued.

Don’t know when glue were invented.

200k Years BP by burning birch tar in the Italian peninsula. Sticky substances in general.
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Postby Grandocantorica » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:21 pm

Satreburg 2 wrote:
Grandocantorica wrote:I start exploring the forest and I discover lots of trees and a waterfall.

According what to our starting location, we are on the wide flat terrain with a riverbank.

You can find waterfalls in riverbanks I think.
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Postby Satreburg 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:21 pm

Seroscapia wrote:
Satreburg 2 wrote:Don’t know when glue were invented.

200k Years BP by burning birch tar in the Italian peninsula. Sticky substances in general.

Fact checked *check marked emoji*
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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:22 pm

With my primitive house complete and exhaustion beating down, I shall begin the creation of a primitive spear.
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Postby Seroscapia » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:23 pm

I specialize in producing sticky glue substances and making buildings out of that and stone. I continue building my house out of it.
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Seroscapia is a Norse nation, benevolent autocracy, and pagan theocracy made up of various nomadic ethno-religious pagan groups in Northern Europe that resisted Christianization and were exiled from their respective homelands, until, after centuries of despair, received, with open arms a gift from the Gods in form of the promised lands for being the last beacon of loyalty for the true deities and resisting the wrath of worldwide Monotheism.

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Postby Grandocantorica » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:24 pm

Kasdados wrote:With my primitive house complete and exhaustion beating down, I shall begin the creation of a primitive spear.

Am I still your deputy enforcer?
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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:24 pm

Grandocantorica wrote:
Kasdados wrote:With my primitive house complete and exhaustion beating down, I shall begin the creation of a primitive spear.

Am I still your deputy enforcer?

Yep. You need to moderate the laws of this thread, fair yet firm.
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Postby Satreburg 2 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:25 pm

Kasdados wrote:With my primitive house complete and exhaustion beating down, I shall begin the creation of a primitive spear.

Now we have to find to hunt some wildlife to survive.

Anyway, I collect some berries
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Postby Alvosa » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:26 pm

I will build a fire and get some cows to begin a farm.
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