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[DEFEATED] Commend Kractero

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[DEFEATED] Commend Kractero

Postby Upper Tuchoim » Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:39 pm

Draft 1:
The Security Council,

Bewildered by the extraordinary emergence of a powerhouse nation, Kractero, one of unparalleled resourcefulness, ingenuity, and collaborative spirit, which has not only gathered one of the most renowned and impressive international artwork collections, but most notably played a climacteric role in the development of tools and technologies aimed at revolutionising the processes of the administration, curation, and production of art;

Immortalising their dedication to collecting priceless artwork, comprising all legendary masterpieces from all three editions; a worthy and insurmountable task for any collector, and a task matched only by a handful of other collectors, composed of 184 paintings of the first edition, 169 editions of the second edition, and 223 paintings of the third edition, and their shocking amassing said artwork, comprising over 6,000 of these legendary masterpieces, ranking 4th worldwide; a worthy placement for a nation standing 7th in the world as measured by the value of all its holdings

Glorifying this inventive mind’s noble endeavour of facilitating the access to timeless works of the artistic domain to all nations of the world, exemplified by the fabrication of “Hare”, a trailblazing and invaluable array of tools which democratised and simplified arduous tasks for both veteran and novice collectors, such as advanced cataloguing systems and interfaces which condense and ameliorate the labour of curators;

Fêting the sheer scope of the tools offered within “Hare”, famously including, but not limited to:
  • JunkDaJunk”, a utility aiding in the process of removing duplicate and unwanted artwork in an efficient yet clean manner to remain compliant with international regulations on museum artwork capacity;
  • GotIssues”, an instrument enabling the rapid discovery of aspiring artists, producers of magnificent portraits of nations from around the world;
  • Gold Retriever”, an effective method of tabulation of assorted data regarding art centres, such as available bank, max gallery size, and the amount of art stored within them;
  • Rate of Change”, a software to track the ever-changing value of artwork over time, allowing nations to see the inevitable rise and fall of individual nations' art gallery values;
  • Queries”, a tool allowing collectors to identify artwork required to complete specific collections;

Appraising Kractero for the development of “Cardtainers”, a device which permits the accurate segmentation of the territories which encompass a nation and its member states in a striving to ease administrative procedures within them, and once more mentioning “Hare” for its seemingly aeonian capabilities, recognising its role as an organisational tool, as evidenced by:
  • Orphans”, an instrument which lists any piece of art which has been misplaced or not labelled correctly, assuring that all nations have up to date and correct galleries;
  • Login Sheet”, a method for nations to resume contact with their satellite states and construct infrastructure leading to shorter future travel times;
  • Finder”, technology which catalogues collections of artwork, saving irreplaceable time otherwise spent on manual searching, and offering more opportunities for collectors to appreciate and celebrate the broader art world;
  • Inscription Assistant”, a tool to help all nations hand-pick and design their own national artwork, as well as the artwork of all satellite nations that they govern;

ReveringHare” for its ground-breaking innovations in the displaying of market data, as shown by:
  • Who’s Farming”, an activity-tracker which lists all respected curator-nations that are gathering new artwork live to the hour;
  • Legendary Tracker”, which racks and records whether the nations represented in portraits are enduring, or defunct;
  • Bazaar”, a faithful and complete trade record of every sale, gift, and exchange of artwork that has ever happened;
  • Ledger”, a tabulation of the top 100 art collectors in the world, so that others can aspire to their greatness;

Meriting adulation for their consistent improvements of said innumerable list tools by incorporating the feedback from art collectors such as New Makasta, Communist-Denmark, Vylixan, and Thorn1000 and the swiftness of this implementation of suggested changes;

Apotheosising their continued dedication to the virtuous undertakings mentioned heretofore, and acknowledging Kractero as a visionary presence within the art-loving community;

Hereby commends Kractero.


Co-authored by Hawkwas Sovustian, Hyperwolf, and 9003.


Draft 2:
The Security Council,

Bewildered by the emergence of the nation, Kractero, one of unparalleled resourcefulness, ingenuity, and collaborative spirit, which has had a critical role in pioneering the development of tools aimed at revolutionising the acquisition, curation, and creation of international artwork;

Immortalising their dedication to collecting priceless artwork, comprising all legendary masterpieces from all three editions; a task matched only by a handful of other collectors, composed of:
  • 184 paintings of the first edition
  • 169 paintings of the second edition
  • 223 paintings of the third edition

Glorifying this inventive nation’s noble endeavour of facilitating access to timeless works of the artistic domain to all nations of the world, shown by the creation of “Cardtainers”, a device which permits the efficient compartmentalisation of the territories which encompass satellite states to ease administrative procedures within them, as well as “Hare”, a trailblazing and invaluable array of tools which increased accessibility and simplified arduous tasks for both all collectors, such as advanced cataloguing systems and interfaces which condense and ameliorate the labour of curators;

Fêting Kractero for the work done in translating several essential tools into the arcane dialect of JavaScript, as well as adding new features to said tools:
  • JunkDaJunk” (Originally created by 9003), a utility used to filter artwork in order to remain compliant with international regulations on artwork capacity, updated by Kractero to allow for the destruction of unwanted artwork byproducts simultaneously while the tool is being used, and the addition of additional filters allowing for more specified sorting;
  • GotIssues” (Originally created by 9003), an instrument enabling the rapid discovery of aspiring artists, producers of magnificent portraits of nations from around the world, updated with the improvement of enabling collectors to use it alongside routine checks of these avant-garde artists’ work and includes a new feature to assess whether importing artwork would exceed available storage;
  • Gold Retriever” (Originally created by Valentine Z and Racoda), an effective method of assorting data regarding satellite states meant for art generation, such as available bank, max gallery size, and the amount of art stored within them, improved for easier accessibility to both the tool and to associated satellite states;

Appraising Kractero for the seemingly endless capabilities of “Hare”, recognising its role as an organisational tool, as evidenced by:
  • Orphans”, an instrument which lists any piece of art which has been misplaced or not labelled correctly, assuring that all nations have up to date and correct galleries;
  • Login Sheet”, a method for collectors to resume contact with their satellite states and construct infrastructure leading to shorter future transport times;
  • Finder”, a technology which allows collectors to find specific cards located on their satellite states, saving ample time otherwise spent manually searching, and also allowing for automatic transfer of said cards to specific recipients;
  • Inscription Assistant”, a tool to help all nations hand-pick and design their own national artwork, as well as the artwork of all satellite states they own;

Revering Kractero for their groundbreaking innovations in the displaying of market data, as shown by:
  • Who’s Farming”, an activity tracker which lists all known collectors that are gathering new artwork live;
  • Legendary Tracker”, which tracks and records the status of all legendary masterpieces, whether they are still in production or out of production, and their available editions;
  • Bazaar”, a near omniscient trade record of every buy, sale, and gift of artwork that has ever happened;
  • Ledger”, a tabulation of the top 100 art collectors in the world by total gallery value, so that others can aspire to their greatness;
  • Rate of Change”, a software to track the ever-changing value of artwork over time, allowing nations to see the rise and fall of individual nations' art gallery values;
  • Queries”, a tool allowing collectors to identify artwork required to complete specific collections;

Meriting adulation for their dedication to refining these tools through their speedy integration of feedback from other collectors, and their creativity in developing new utilities when existing ones prove inadequate;

Apotheosising their continued good work mentioned earlier, and recognising Kractero as an inspiring and forward-thinking presence in the art-loving community;

Hereby commends Kractero.


Co-authored by Hawkwas Sovustian, Hyperwolf, and 9003.


(FYI, if you are interested in the tools mentioned in this proposal, they can be found here: hare.kractero.com)
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Postby Ernest Drake » Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:41 pm

Note from a group of concerned authors and contributors: This is a brief introduction to the draft here posted, and as such, we aim to briefly outline why Kractero was deemed a worthy nominee for a Commendation. We are aware that this character might be unknown to most people outside of the community of card-collectors, and as such want to state that Kractero is one of the pillars of modern card-trading and farming. Want to get poetic? Think of the wheelset on trains, they’re the ones that keep the machine running. Kractero is one of the most prolific script writers for cards out there, on par with 9003, whose scripts he revitalised and turned accessible by adding them onto the platform “Hare”. The community of card-collectors holds Kractero in the highest regard, notably due to his willingness to self-optimise and adapt his scripts to our needs.

We understand that this draft might have a lot of lists. However, considering the exceptional nature of this candidate to a Commendation, we believe it is a fitting format.

In sum, we advise you ultimately vote FOR this resolution even though you might be unfamiliar with this person, as they represent the epitome of innovation in the way in which people farm cards. However, before that, we await your feedback :}

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Postby Triseria » Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:43 pm

I believe that the nominee is worthy of Commendation, however due to the OP/author's recent history of inappropriate comments towards me off-site I can't in good faith recommend supporting this draft sadly.
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Postby Rhaza » Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:11 pm

Started doing cards today and I am absolutely convinced they deserve it based on that alone LOL

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Postby New Samon » Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:56 pm

Rhaza wrote:Started doing cards today and I am absolutely convinced they deserve it based on that alone LOL

Hare keeps me sane.

Therefore, full support!
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Postby The Ice States » Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:10 pm

My only substantive suggestion would be that I think this could use some reorganisation so Cardtainers is mentioned in its own clause, and Hare in consecutive clauses only concerning it. As of now the order Hare -> clause about Cardtainers and then returning to Hare -> Hare again is somewhat confusing. "Immortalising" also seems to be missing punctuation at the end. Otherwise this looks good to me :D
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Postby Ostrovskiy » Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:20 pm

Full support, maybe feedback later
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Postby Adkissa » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:19 am

I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner! Full support-- cards wouldn't be where they are without them.
Edit: Support if all authors are properly listed. Clarification would be appreciated :P
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Postby Vylixan » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:41 am

Full support! I have been saying for a while already that Kractero deserves a Commendation for his work.

I have some small improvement I will post about later, but I did notice "169 editions of the second edition" right away.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:43 am

Interesting draft. Noticed this on a quick read through:
Glorifying this inventive mind’s noble endeavour

Does a nation have a mind? Its residents certainly do so this could be a case of personalising the nation and therefore illegal under R2(a).

Quite a heavy read and does seem to concentrate more on the abilities of Hare than the achievements of the nominee. Mind you that’s based on one read through. Not against this proposal but not fully convinced either.

Edit: congratulations on getting me to open my dictionary to look up a word used in a draft, something I don’t think I’ve ever done before. “Aeonian”, never coming to an end, eternal. Not sure it’s used correctly though - “aeonian capabilities”?
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The Ice States wrote:My only substantive suggestion would be that I think this could use some reorganisation so Cardtainers is mentioned in its own clause, and Hare in consecutive clauses only concerning it. As of now the order Hare -> clause about Cardtainers and then returning to Hare -> Hare again is somewhat confusing. "Immortalising" also seems to be missing punctuation at the end. Otherwise this looks good to me :D

Hello, The Ice States!
I agree that it'd make far more sense for the clauses to flow in that order, and good catch with the punctuation, will be ratified ASAP.

Vylixan wrote:Full support! I have been saying for a while already that Kractero deserves a Commendation for his work.

I have some small improvement I will post about later, but I did notice "169 editions of the second edition" right away.

Hi again, Site!
Whoops, will be amended, and thanks for the support :)

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Interesting draft. Noticed this on a quick read through:
Glorifying this inventive mind’s noble endeavour

Does a nation have a mind? Its residents certainly do so this could be a case of personalising the nation and therefore illegal under R2(a).

Quite a heavy read and does seem to concentrate more on the abilities of Hare than the achievements of the nominee. Mind you that’s based on one read through. Not against this proposal but not fully convinced either.

Edit: congratulations on getting me to open my dictionary to look up a word used in a draft, something I don’t think I’ve ever done before. “Aeonian”, never coming to an end, eternal. Not sure it’s used correctly though - “aeonian capabilities”?

Hello, BBD.
1. This wasn't spotted before, the word "mind" will be replaced, possibly or probably to "nation" to keep it simple.

2. Hrm, there, I must confess, I am beat. I'll be frank and say I understand fully why this might be a "heavy read", beyond some baroque passages, the catalogic structure isn't the nicest one. I've been having a think on possible ways to present the scripts, and your comment has given me an interesting idea. In an effort to make it less "ad rem" and more "ad personam", I think rephrasing some of the operative clauses to focus on Kractero first, how the nation improves [x thing] second, and a mention of "Hare" last could be a welcome change. I have no doubt that the authors will be discussing whether or not to implement this and expect it in the second draft. Please tell me what you think.

3. On that. As I see it, the word "aeonian", beyond the particular Greek dimension which makes me enjoy the word there, isn't placed completely right, you're right. Instead, I would envision something along the lines of an "aeonian list", whereby it is the list that is "continuing forever", and not "(the) capabilities", which is linguistically awkward and leaves some ambiguity. Below is why I think "aeonian" is an effective word here:
I chose this word because of the connotations of its etymology, which I believe reflect this proposal's spirit and what makes Kractero great. Whilst in the text the definition used is that of "seemingly endless" or "continuing forever", its other definition is what made it my pick. Coming from "aionios", or "lasting an age" and "αioν", "generation/age", I think this is very fitting for Kractero, whose scripts have defined and created a new generation and age of farming.


Apart from that, I thank the three of you for your invaluable feedback, and everyone else for the heaps of support you've been giving this!
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EDIT(s): Spelling mistakes.
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Postby Haymarket Riot » Mon Jan 06, 2025 4:55 am

Edit: will have to rethink support knowing editing author is not listed. Not a fan, if you are actively contributing to a resolution you should put yourself on it.
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Postby Fachumonn » Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:42 am

While I support this in principle, I have the feeling the draft would read better if it wasn't just constantly lists of their tools.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:53 am

Meriting adulation for their consistent improvements of said innumerable list tools by incorporating the feedback from art collectors such as New Makasta, Communist-Denmark, Vylixan, and Thorn1000 and the swiftness of this implementation of suggested changes;


This doesn't deserve its own clause, and honestly just looks like a cheap way to shout-out some random other cards collectors in someone else's commend
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Postby Waterfall State » Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:33 am

Paragraph 4 the first three scripts that were originally written by someone else, perhaps mention that they improved on it, Otherwise support for the candidate
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Postby Ernest Drake » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:16 am

Fachumonn wrote:While I support this in principle, I have the feeling the draft would read better if it wasn't just constantly lists of their tools.

Thank you for your feedback, but, well, what can I say... almost like "Hare" is a list of tools :p
On a more serious note, I'm certain the authors have taken note of some concerns regarding the readability of the draft and will improve the draft as a consequence of this. Nevertheless, I don't expect a very radical change to be made as the format is the direct byproduct of the substance of this proposal - i.e. the list of tools Kractero has developed for card-collectors.

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Meriting adulation for their consistent improvements of said innumerable list tools by incorporating the feedback from art collectors such as New Makasta, Communist-Denmark, Vylixan, and Thorn1000 and the swiftness of this implementation of suggested changes;

This doesn't deserve its own clause, and honestly just looks like a cheap way to shout-out some random other cards collectors in someone else's commend

I thank you too for the feedback, however, I'd like to disagree on behalf on the authors and contributors to this draft on something you've said. One of our first praises of Kractero was the fact that he implements community feedback, is always attentive, and is constantly self-optimising to adapt to our needs. I could imagine this clause without the mentions of the collectors themselves, but it would result in a short itemisation of about two (2) or three (3) changes or scripts Kractero has developed on demand. Obviously, this could lead into some of the aforementioned issues with ease of reading, but let's hope the authors can avoid this!

Waterfall State wrote:Paragraph 4 the first three scripts that were originally written by someone else, perhaps mention that they improved on it, Otherwise support for the candidate

I concur. No doubt this will be noticed and changed by the authors. Thanks, Dimitri.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:56 am

Some more random thoughts:
Bewildered by the extraordinary emergence of a powerhouse nation, Kractero, one of unparalleled resourcefulness, ingenuity, and collaborative spirit, which has not only gathered one of the most renowned and impressive international artwork collections, but most notably played a climacteric role in the development of tools and technologies aimed at revolutionising the processes of the administration, curation, and production of art;

Climateric:
Noun
1. a critical period or event.
"the first major climacteric in twentieth-century poetry"
2. the period of life when fertility and sexual activity are in decline;

Adjective
1. having extreme and far-reaching implications or results; critical.
2. occurring at, characteristic of, or undergoing the climacteric;

Not sure “climateric” fits either as a noun or an adjective. Maybe “critical” works better and will have less people reaching for the dictionary.

Immortalizing their dedication to collecting priceless artwork, comprising all legendary masterpieces from all three editions; a worthy and insurmountable task for any collector, and a task matched only by a handful of other collectors, composed of 184 paintings of the first edition, 169 editions of the second edition, and 223 paintings of the third edition, and their shocking amassing said artwork, comprising over 6,000 of these legendary masterpieces, ranking 4th worldwide; a worthy placement for a nation standing 7th in the world as measured by the value of all its holdings

To me this clause suffers from a high fog factor, not very readable. A bulleted list would, to me, work better.

The bit highlighted in red doesn’t make any sense.
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Postby Ernest Drake » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:43 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:[...]
Not sure “climateric” fits either as a noun or an adjective. Maybe “critical” works better and will have less people reaching for the dictionary.
[...]
To me this clause suffers from a high fog factor, not very readable. A bulleted list would, to me, work better.

The bit highlighted in red doesn’t make any sense.

1. Yeah, I agree. The definition employed was "1. having extreme and far-reaching implications or results; critical.", to show how transformative the candidate was within the domain of NationStates Trading Cards, but critical, or vital, or something simpler works too.

2. "and their shocking amassing OF said artwork," I believe was the intended phrasing. To my knowledge, the authorship team did try to incorporate a list here but seeing as this draft already has a lot of them, dropped the idea. I'll see what can be done there to improve the passage.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:22 am

Haymarket Riot wrote:Edit: will have to rethink support knowing editing author is not listed. Not a fan, if you are actively contributing to a resolution you should put yourself on it.

This.

I’m not sure I would support a proposal where the authors have solely worked through an intermediary and have not come to the SC to defend their work themselves.
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Postby Bisofeyr » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:32 am

I was pleasantly surprised reading this, it articulates their contributions fairly well.

I agree with others that some impacting is in order; demonstrate how Kractero themselves impacted other nations and the world, which is preferable to a simple list of features of their program.

It may be interesting to present this through the lens of computational archaeology.
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Postby Rhaza » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:38 am

Proposals' listed authors should be accurate. Anything short of that is dishonest.

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Postby Syberis » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:15 pm

What is this "Concerned group of authors and contributors" and is it comprised of the co-authors listed in this resolution, or is there a weird ghostwriting scenario going on? I'd have to vote against if I literally have no idea who wrote something.
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Postby Vylixan » Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:40 am

Haymarket Riot wrote:Edit: will have to rethink support knowing editing author is not listed. Not a fan, if you are actively contributing to a resolution you should put yourself on it.


Here is my two cents as someone who has never involved themselves much into matters of the Security Council.

This seems to be because the editing author has been told in the past that any Resolution with their name attached to it would face significant opposition, from what I've been told not because of any personal misconduct or poor reputation, but purely due to political bias stemming from a region they are associated with. That was the case with my own commendation at least.

This strikes me as deeply unfair. If you agree with the content of the Resolution, but not with the author's region that seems to be highly discriminatory to me.
But it seems that even when their name is not on the resolution and the content is agreeable, people have a problem with it?

I think the people that have a problem with an author should just come in here and announce this publicly instead of doing this in back channels like last time. Because if people have a problem with a ghost editor, but not a problem with ghost boycotting that seems highly hypocritical to me. Currently this can not be addressed because those reasons are not posted in this topic.

Either you are open in the fact you will never support a Resolution even remotely attached to a person and be public about that, where you would have to defend it publicly, or set aside personal bias and vote in favor of a resolution based on its content instead of the people attached to it.

Blaming the author for working around this boycott seems to me to be a silent support of the status quo. It shows me you are fine with the author not being able to attach his name to any Resolution. That does not gain any respect from me in this regard.

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Postby Ernest Drake » Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:05 am

Syberis wrote:What is this "Concerned group of authors and contributors" and is it comprised of the co-authors listed in this resolution, or is there a weird ghostwriting scenario going on? I'd have to vote against if I literally have no idea who wrote something.

Yes, it was and is comprised of the co-authors and author listed.

It appears we've reached an impasse again.

In light of the paradoxical difficulties both an official inclusion of myself in the stead of a co-author would entail for the success of this resolution, and those of maintaining the status quo, whereby I am not listed officially as a contributor, amendments and important changes will be made modifying and/or replacing extracts of the text that, in others' words, do not accurately reflect authors listed, i.e. my own. This will be apparent in the second draft of this resolution, whenever it is posted, likely soon. I am unaware of the full extent of the modifications, but no doubt, the draft will have been ameliorated substantially, due to (or despite) my work being removed. Moreover, feedback will now be answered by the registered authorship team personally.

I hope that whoever has expressed support in the past and performed a volte-face yesterday will continue to support it now that the pseudo-integrity of the SC has been respected and their input added to the draft, or so I hope. It is ironic once more that those who 'champion honesty' in the Security Council are the same ones who poison it with prejudice and prescriptive judgments, disregarding the quality of proposals; only to leech off of the results once the hard work is complete.

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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:15 am

Ernest Drake wrote:I hope that whoever has expressed support in the past and performed a volte-face yesterday will continue to support it now that the pseudo-integrity of the SC has been respected and their input added to the draft, or so I hope. It is ironic once more that those who 'champion honesty' in the Security Council are the same ones who poison it with prejudice and prescriptive judgments, disregarding the quality of proposals; only to leech off of the results once the hard work is complete.
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I don't know what you're on about here, quite honestly. Also note that there are only a max of 3 co-authors anyway.
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