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The Safe and Inclusive Spaces Act
Category: Civil Rights
Proposed by: Alkzine
Co-author: Midlona

The World Assembly,

REAFFIRMING the right of all individuals to identify, dress, and live in accordance with their chosen gender identity;

UNDERSTANDING there to be a difference between gender identity and sex;

AWARE of the fact that sex-based differences require segregation according to sex, rather than gender identity, in isolated situations where sex-based safety and privacy needs exist;

CONCERNED that extant World Assembly resolutions may allow a small number of bad-faith actors to exploit the current self-identification system to gain access to spaces requiring sexed-based admission;

EQUALLY CONCERNED at the real threat of violence and potential for harm gender-nonconforming individuals face if they are forced to use sex-based facilities incongruous with their gender identity;

AWARE OF the multifaceted and complex role psychological trauma can play in affecting the interactions of vulnerable members of one sex with those of an opposite sex;

RE-EMPHASISING the indisputably real existence of transgender people, and those who have transitioned to or identify with a gender identity incongruous with their biological sex;

Enacts as follows:

1. Definitions:
    a. 'sex' or 'biological sex' refers to:

      1. a specific unchanging, biological category into which a dimorphic or polymorphic species can be divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth; and/or

      2.the immutable biological distinction between different sexes.
    b. 'intersex' refers to those individuals who, due to genetic variations, cannot be assigned to one specific sex by evidence of genetic and/or anatomical features.
    c. 'vulnerable individual' is any individual who:

      1. has suffered sexual assault or domestic violence;

      2. is a refugee, asylum seeker or internally displaced individual (idi);

      3. has a physical disability or serious learning difficulty;
      4. lives with a serious mental health difficulty; and/or
      5. is or has been in foster care or a residential childcare home in the past five years.
    d. ‘invasive' means any treatment involving prolonged touch, and/or revealing private parts of the body (the specific classification of which is to be defined by the individual in question), any discussion or treatment of sexual or reproductive health, obstetrics, gynecology, urology, palliative care, cancer treatment, or gastrointestinal treatment.
    e. ‘sex-specific space' means any space whose members or societal norms dictate it to be solely open to one sex; including bathrooms, changing rooms, educational institutions catering solely to one sex, places of religious worship, sport teams, or gyms.

2. Spaces serving vulnerable individuals of a specific sex, including (but not limited to) prisons, rape crisis centres, domestic violence shelters, asylum processing centres, drug rehabilitation programs, or psychiatric hospitals, must reasonably accommodate requests by such vulnerable individuals to maintain a sex-specific space solely for their sex, in the event such a request is made.

3. When undergoing invasive medical treatment or psychological treatment, vulnerable individuals have the right to request treatment from a member of their sex, and must be reasonably accommodated wherever possible.

4. Individuals who have been convicted of any form of sexual assault on an individual of a different sex may, under no circumstances, enter sex-specific spaces of that different sex, irrespective of claimed or perceived gender identity.

5. Member-states may determine this resolution’s application to individuals natally intersex. The World Assembly reserves the right to legislate such determinations in further resolutions.

6. Member nations must make provisions for transgender and gender-nonconforming individuals where they would otherwise face a genuine threat of violence or discrimination, including the introduction of third-gender spaces where necessary and possible. The WA will fund the provision of these spaces where member nations are unable to meet the financial burden of doing so.

7. Interpretation:
    a. This resolution does not place restrictions on
      1. an individual’s right to self-identify as any gender they see fit and be recognized as such gender by member-states;
      2. gender adaptation procedures (GAP); or
      3. anything regarding gender whatsoever.
    b. This resolution must not be interpreted as to curtail or limit the extant rights of transgender people to self-identification and freedom
 from all forms of discrimination.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:59 am

When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?
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Tinhampton wrote:When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?

Oh are they the same person? Makes my bookkeeping easier, thanks.
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Tinhampton wrote:When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?

I'll add to that concern by noting that Clause 4 could be used by member states to ban transgender people from using the restrooms or other facilities tied to their gender identity, by saying that all transgender people are committing a crime.

Alkzine really isn't improving his stance here.
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:28 am

This transphobic and "gender critical"/TERF-y language is a non-starter. It's also remarkable that the main author is 3/3 on bad and reactionary resolutions, and 2/3 on outright bigoted ones. This is getting very close to a speedrun of being ostracised from the GA community and being unable to pass anything, ever. If that's the purpose then go right ahead. If it isn't then rethink your approach (Both main and co-authors).


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Haymarket Riot wrote:Oh are they the same person? Makes my bookkeeping easier, thanks.

I don't think they are the same person. At the very least both nations are currently WA members:
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=alkzine
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Postby Astrobolt » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:34 am

Haymarket Riot wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?

Oh are they the same person? Makes my bookkeeping easier, thanks.


OOC: Not the same person (both are in the WA), but looks like they are working together on this. So absent any conflicting evidence, we can lump them together.

For transparency’s sake I did warn the OP that absent evidence (preferably peer reviewed) this policy actually works, they should drop this. (This was before I realized Alkzine was involved).
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Postby The Overmind » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:40 am

Midlona wrote:
  1. 'sex' or 'biological sex' refers to:

    1. a specific unchanging, biological category into which a dimorphic or polymorphic species can be divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth; and/or

    2. the immutable biological distinction between different sexes.

Biologist here. This is garbage, and no such definition of sex exists.

Edit: actually, let's get into it. Why not.

There is no such thing as sex as a "specific, unchanging, biological" category.

All species are multimorphic, and the space of sex is not two-dimensional.

Biological sex is not divisible by reproductive organs visible at birth, which is referred to as "gonadal sex" in biology, which fails to include chromosomal sex, hormonal sex, morphological sex, and behavioral sex, let alone the sociobiological construct of gender that actually underpins sex assignment.

There are no "immutable" biological distinctions between different sexes, and the best you can say is that different sexes can be different on average in specific characteristics, none of which are sex-exclusive.
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The Overmind wrote:
Midlona wrote:
  1. 'sex' or 'biological sex' refers to:

    1. a specific unchanging, biological category into which a dimorphic or polymorphic species can be divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth; and/or

    2. the immutable biological distinction between different sexes.

Biologist here. This is garbage, and no such definition of sex exists.


Apologies, but what would you define as sex then? Everything I’ve learned suggests that this is the definition.

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Postby The Overmind » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:52 am

Kyete wrote:
The Overmind wrote:Biologist here. This is garbage, and no such definition of sex exists.


Apologies, but what would you define as sex then? Everything I’ve learned suggests that this is the definition.

Biological sex is the ever-changing, bimodal, nonbinary, layered, and multimorphic endpoint of the branching, lifelong, complex, process of sexual differentiation.

It can be broken down into categories like chromosomal sex, gonadal sex, hormonal sex, morphological sex, and behavioral sex. On its own, the idea of sex as a list of stable categories is fictitious, and must be either internally determined or externally imposed. But nature defies the human craving for categorical simplicity. Sex is anything but "unchanging" and "divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth" and there are no "immutable biological distinctions" between sexes.

The view ascribed to sex by the proposal writers is that of biological essentialism and biological determinism as seen through the lens of sex as something that can be cleanly categorized by traits that are visible, stable, and reliable indicators where none exist.

Reference:
Nelson, R. J., & Kriegsfeld, L. J. (2017). An introduction to behavioral endocrinology (5th ed.). Sinauer Associates, Inc. Publishers

(The reference PDF is freely available online and all of this information is in chapter 3).
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Kyete wrote:
Apologies, but what would you define as sex then? Everything I’ve learned suggests that this is the definition.

Biological sex is the ever-changing, bimodal, nonbinary, layered, and multimorphic endpoint of the branching, lifelong, complex, process of sexual differentiation.

It can be broken down into categories like chromosomal sex, gonadal sex, hormonal sex, morphological sex, and behavioral sex. On its own, the idea of sex as a list of stable categories is fictitious, and must be either internally determined or externally imposed. But nature defies the human craving for categorical simplicity. Sex is anything but "unchanging" and "divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth" and there are no "immutable biological distinctions" between sexes.

The view ascribed to sex by the proposal writers is that of biological essentialism and biological determinism as seen through the lens of sex as something that can be cleanly categorized by traits that are visible, stable, and reliable indicators where none exist.

Reference:
Nelson, R. J., & Kriegsfeld, L. J. (2017). An introduction to behavioral endocrinology (5th ed.). Sinauer Associates, Inc. Publishers

(The reference PDF is freely available online and all of this information is in chapter 3).


Okay, thank you for clarifying. However, isn’t saying it’s both “nonbinary” and “bimodal” a contradiction? Bimodal is described as “having or involving two modes, in particular (of a statistical distribution) having two maxima.” which is synonymous with binary, “relating to, composed of, or involving two things”. Also, most categories you described (chromosomal, hormonal) tend to fall under two categories— women have XX chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes, women have more estrogen while men have more testosterone, women and men have different reproductive organs. How does this fit into this definition?

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Postby The Overmind » Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:13 am

Kyete wrote:
The Overmind wrote:Biological sex is the ever-changing, bimodal, nonbinary, layered, and multimorphic endpoint of the branching, lifelong, complex, process of sexual differentiation.

It can be broken down into categories like chromosomal sex, gonadal sex, hormonal sex, morphological sex, and behavioral sex. On its own, the idea of sex as a list of stable categories is fictitious, and must be either internally determined or externally imposed. But nature defies the human craving for categorical simplicity. Sex is anything but "unchanging" and "divided based on reproductive organs visible at birth" and there are no "immutable biological distinctions" between sexes.

The view ascribed to sex by the proposal writers is that of biological essentialism and biological determinism as seen through the lens of sex as something that can be cleanly categorized by traits that are visible, stable, and reliable indicators where none exist.

Reference:
Nelson, R. J., & Kriegsfeld, L. J. (2017). An introduction to behavioral endocrinology (5th ed.). Sinauer Associates, Inc. Publishers

(The reference PDF is freely available online and all of this information is in chapter 3).


Okay, thank you for clarifying. However, isn’t saying it’s both “nonbinary” and “bimodal” a contradiction? Bimodal is described as “having or involving two modes, in particular (of a statistical distribution) having two maxima.” which is synonymous with binary, “relating to, composed of, or involving two things”. Also, most categories you described (chromosomal, hormonal) tend to fall under two categories— women have XX chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes, women have more estrogen while men have more testosterone, women and men have different reproductive organs. How does this fit into this definition?

Something which is binary always falls into one of two categories. Something which is bimodal is something that has two reference points in two-or-higher-dimensional space around which some trait or traits center. They are completely different.

I suggest reading the chapter in the reference that I listed. There are myriad steps in the lifelong process of sexual differentiation during which the traits divided into different categories of sex can deviate from the prototypes people imagine underpin sex (e.g. women are XX, have ovaries, are able to give birth, have secondary sex characteristics that are recognized as feminine, etc.). Sex cannot, for any species, be captured in a binary, let alone one as biologically complex as a human being, and those prototypes are of fleeting use in nearly all possible applications.
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Untecna wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?

I'll add to that concern by noting that Clause 4 could be used by member states to ban transgender people from using the restrooms or other facilities tied to their gender identity, by saying that all transgender people are committing a crime.

Alkzine really isn't improving his stance here.

OOC: To be clear, GA#s 91, 457, 467, and I’m sure a few others say that you can’t make transgender status a crime.


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Haymarket Riot wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:When I saw this title, I was expecting a nice and fluffy resolution about community building and law enforcement, not "no trans folk in same-sex shelters, please."

Also, why have you created the OP rather than your main author, Alkzine (who I note has also written several other controversial resolutions)?

Oh are they the same person? Makes my bookkeeping easier, thanks.

I'm referring to the fact that Alkzine is the submitting author - the main person behind this effort - while Midlona is just his sidekick.
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Kyete wrote:Apologies, but what would you define as sex then? Everything I’ve learned suggests that this is the definition.

I saw someone, probably on Twitter at some point, describe the "only two genders" thing that this draft also has as elementary biology. And that's probably true but in the opposite way that the people who try to express some transphobic gender essentialism means it. Because this is Elementary. Two genders and the neat 2x2 X/Y X/X inheritance scheme is what you learn in elementary school biology because it's easy to teach 8-year-old kids. Then you get a bit older, get to high school, where the teacher gives you a deeper understanding. Biology doesn't just fit in a neat 2x2 table that accounts for all genetic diversity. Genes can be expressed, dormant, dominant, get activated, whatever. This was where I had my last biology class (Just to make sure to state that outright, I am pretty far from my own expertise here). But just like that elementary school biology lesson was what was easy to tell to elementary school kids, what I was taught in high school was because it was accurate enough for high school students and importantly easy to fit into a high school curriculum. Those who actually know shit about biology then moved on to study it at university, or even got a PhD in some niche topic. And when the experts tell us that transphobes are using phony, Elementary grade, science to justify their transphobia, well I listen. Because I realise that my high school diploma already debunked the transphobe's Elementary school diplomas, so maybe the actual experts know something I don't.


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Kyete wrote:Apologies, but what would you define as sex then? Everything I’ve learned suggests that this is the definition.

I saw someone, probably on Twitter at some point, describe the "only two genders" thing that this draft also has as elementary biology. And that's probably true but in the opposite way that the people who try to express some transphobic gender essentialism means it. Because this is Elementary. Two genders and the neat 2x2 X/Y X/X inheritance scheme is what you learn in elementary school biology because it's easy to teach 8-year-old kids. Then you get a bit older, get to high school, where the teacher gives you a deeper understanding. Biology doesn't just fit in a neat 2x2 table that accounts for all genetic diversity. Genes can be expressed, dormant, dominant, get activated, whatever. This was where I had my last biology class (Just to make sure to state that outright, I am pretty far from my own expertise here). But just like that elementary school biology lesson was what was easy to tell to elementary school kids, what I was taught in high school was because it was accurate enough for high school students and importantly easy to fit into a high school curriculum. Those who actually know shit about biology then moved on to study it at university, or even got a PhD in some niche topic. And when the experts tell us that transphobes are using phony, Elementary grade, science to justify their transphobia, well I listen. Because I realise that my high school diploma already debunked the transphobe's Elementary school diplomas, so maybe the actual experts know something I don't.

And this is exactly it. The elementary or even high school Freshman view of the biology of sex is extremely simplified for the background knowledge of the audience and was never meant to be considered an authoritative view on the subject. As you point out, the complexity of genetics alone (the various possible X and Y combinations, the presence of the SRY gene on the X chromosome or its absence from the Y chromosome, changes in X-inactivation, genetically-rooted androgen insensitivity, noncontributory aromatase, genetic chimerism, genetic mosaicism etc.) already precludes the idea of a sex binary. But, more damningly for the idea of immutable, assignable, sex categories in humans is that all of this genetic complexity is but the very first step in sexual differentiation, and there are so many more ways that it can differ from the prototypical evolution of individual sex downstream of genetics.
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Haymarket Riot wrote: Oh are they the same person? Makes my bookkeeping easier, thanks.


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Untecna wrote:I'll add to that concern by noting that Clause 4 could be used by member states to ban transgender people from using the restrooms or other facilities tied to their gender identity, by saying that all transgender people are committing a crime.


I do not believe this is a good faith interpretation of Clause 4, which does not concern transgender status, but rather convictions of sexual assault. A member-state that tried to pervert Clause 4 to apply specifically or universally to all transgender individuals would have to define the crime of "sexual assault" in a way that 1) violates WA legislation on the subject and 2) violates prohibitions on the criminalization of transgender identity and other gender non-conforming identities (like the ones cited in the OP), and 3) violating Clause 7(b) of this resolution.
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Attempted Socialism wrote:This transphobic and "gender critical"/TERF-y language is a non-starter. It's also remarkable that the main author is 3/3 on bad and reactionary resolutions, and 2/3 on outright bigoted ones. This is getting very close to a speedrun of being ostracised from the GA community and being unable to pass anything, ever. If that's the purpose then go right ahead. If it isn't then rethink your approach (Both main and co-authors).


Midlona is an uninvolved party to the co-author's prior submissions. I am interested in promoting and balancing the very real and valid interests of both vulnerable individuals, as defined in this resolution, and those of trans and gender non-conforming individuals (which aren't mutually exclusive, fwiw).

I understand your hesitation, disagree that the language is transphobic, but do want to work to find language that you and others would find acceptable and accommodating. Which provisions are non-starters for you?
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Postby Midlona » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:22 pm

Tinhampton wrote:[
I'm referring to the fact that Alkzine is the submitting author - the main person behind this effort - while Midlona is just his sidekick.


Midlona is not anyone's "sidekick" anymore than any other co-author is the "sidekick" of an authoring-nation.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:31 pm

B1G JIM SLADE wrote:Support. You gon' have fun with them pink hair and nose ring types. When they start goin' "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE", that's a warnin'. They fixin' to shoot the place up. Get ya some body armor now.

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The Overmind wrote:Antarctic Oasis is missing its minstrelsy.

Edit: for context, this is one of a group of older white American men living in a regional echo chamber where they brag about deregistering voters ahead of the general election for Democracy™. You know, when they're not engaging in outright minstrelsy on the forum that has already gotten one of their nations nuked. Not sure you should put too much stock in their support ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Daaamn my man, you triggered!


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Yass boss! I’s sho do what you says boss!


You've been around long enough to know this isn't acceptable behavior. Take a *** ONE-DAY BAN *** to let it sink in. This applies to you the player, not just this one of your many many puppets.
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Postby Midlona » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:37 pm

Attempted Socialism wrote:I saw someone, probably on Twitter at some point, describe the "only two genders" thing that this draft also has as elementary biology. And that's probably true but in the opposite way that the people who try to express some transphobic gender essentialism means it. Because this is Elementary. Two genders and the neat 2x2 X/Y X/X inheritance scheme is what you learn in elementary school biology because it's easy to teach 8-year-old kids. Then you get a bit older, get to high school, where the teacher gives you a deeper understanding. Biology doesn't just fit in a neat 2x2 table that accounts for all genetic diversity. Genes can be expressed, dormant, dominant, get activated, whatever. This was where I had my last biology class (Just to make sure to state that outright, I am pretty far from my own expertise here). But just like that elementary school biology lesson was what was easy to tell to elementary school kids, what I was taught in high school was because it was accurate enough for high school students and importantly easy to fit into a high school curriculum. Those who actually know shit about biology then moved on to study it at university, or even got a PhD in some niche topic. And when the experts tell us that transphobes are using phony, Elementary grade, science to justify their transphobia, well I listen. Because I realise that my high school diploma already debunked the transphobe's Elementary school diplomas, so maybe the actual experts know something I don't.


This resolution does not endorse or promote the idea of a sex binary, only that there at least two sexes that exist (we understand different sapient species may have different sexed realities or biology).

This resolution goes no further on the concept of sex, besides defining sex, than existing resolutions already recognize. For example, Clause 2 of GAR #467 recognizes that transgender and gender non-conforming identities are not illnesses or diseases, but identities at odds with one's birth sex. Its definition of hormone therapy specifically evokes secondary sex characteristics as its object sought to be altered. GAR #571's definition of hormone therapy relies on even broader terms of "sexual characteristics". GAR #91's definition of intersex persons (which this resolution's definition complies), implicitly recognizes the possibility that an individual can be identified as more than one sex and variation (deviations from the norm) are the cause of the inability to identify that individual as a particular sex.

This resolution is not the first to recognize the concept of birth sex, recognize that sex can differ from gender identity, or that there are sex characteristics that are universal (enough) and common (enough) to serve as the basis upon which incongruity exists between it and one's gender identity.

I understand conversations around the definition of sex can be controversial and difficult; perhaps that is why no other resolution has provided a definition of "sex", despite legislating on the subject. Again, I am open to alternative or amended definitions from those that object with our initial proposal.
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Postby Nikosias » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:48 pm

What does a person say to a proposal like this other than yikes?

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Postby Attempted Socialism » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:59 pm

Midlona wrote:
Attempted Socialism wrote:This transphobic and "gender critical"/TERF-y language is a non-starter. It's also remarkable that the main author is 3/3 on bad and reactionary resolutions, and 2/3 on outright bigoted ones. This is getting very close to a speedrun of being ostracised from the GA community and being unable to pass anything, ever. If that's the purpose then go right ahead. If it isn't then rethink your approach (Both main and co-authors).


Midlona is an uninvolved party to the co-author's prior submissions. I am interested in promoting and balancing the very real and valid interests of both vulnerable individuals, as defined in this resolution, and those of trans and gender non-conforming individuals (which aren't mutually exclusive, fwiw).

I understand your hesitation, disagree that the language is transphobic, but do want to work to find language that you and others would find acceptable and accommodating. Which provisions are non-starters for you?

If clauses 1a, 1b, 2, and the main author were deleted that would go a long way to alleviate my concerns. As for replacement language I would suggest asking The Overmind who is a lot more knowledgeable on this topic than I am.


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