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Daniel Penny ACQUITTED

Postby Liberal Malaysia » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:26 am

Daniel Penny acquitted in subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely, sparking applause, uproar in NYC courtroom

What do you think of Daniel Penny's acquittal? Supporters say that he was a Good Samaritan who intervened to protect passengers on a subway train. Detractors call him a white supremacist who just wanted to murder a black man simply for the thrill of it.

This is a good day for the people of New York state and NYC. Penny's acquittal sends a message that being a Good Samaritan is not a crime. Being black, under the influence and having over 40 arrests to your name does not put you above the law. Threatening other passengers with violence and being prevented from doing so does not make you a "victim". Being white does not automatically make you a racist simply for existing, let alone interacting with black people. If anything, that itself is a deeply racist attitude to hold.

As for Jordan Neely's father, fuck him. Where was he when his son was getting arrested, getting high and building an extensive criminal record? NOW he wants to sue Penny? He has failed as a "parent" and is a pathetic excuse for a "father".

This is a not-so-good day for the far-left BLM, Free Palestine cult and their unreasonable demands for special treatment for people of certain races and faiths and their systematic demonization of people of other races and faiths, particularly Jews. Real equality and justice have prevailed at least for the time being. New York, for now, has justice and peace. Hopefully, this will be the first of many victories to come. Hopefully America has passed the point of peak woke, but the path back down to sanity will be steep and treacherous as the recent communist terrorist assassination of a healthcare CEO has shown. May the backlash against woke be even greater still.

Now all that needs to happen is for Derek Chauvin and his colleagues to be pardoned for crimes they did not commit and were wrongly convicted of in a show trial with a biased judge and a rigged jury who were fearful of the potential riotous fallout of a not-guilty verdict. The BLM cult must be buried for good. Then America can truly move on from its racist past.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:30 am

Not sure why you bring race into something that has absolutely nothing to do with, or call anti-terrorism and anti-racism a cult but yeah, saving people should not be a crime. Hell, I'd argue the opposite. We need Power Rangers around the world.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:32 am

No surprise that "Liberal" Malaysia is pro-Derek Chauvin. :roll:
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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:33 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Not sure why you bring race into something that has absolutely nothing to do with, or call anti-terrorism and anti-racism a cult but yeah, saving people should not be a crime. Hell, I'd argue the opposite. We need Power Rangers around the world.


Penny's haters are the ones who've made it all about race. I merely described their position. But you're right. Race had absolutely nothing to do with what happened on that train.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:35 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:Not sure why you bring race into something that has absolutely nothing to do with, or call anti-terrorism and anti-racism a cult but yeah, saving people should not be a crime. Hell, I'd argue the opposite. We need Power Rangers around the world.


Penny's haters are the ones who've made it all about race. I merely described their position. But you're right. Race had absolutely nothing to do with what happened on that train.


Hate it when a case is hijacked by idiots wanting a quick political one-up. Like sure, racism is bad, but this is about a selfless bloke who just wanted to help. This statement is coming from a guy who hates the US military.
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Postby Unmet Player » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:36 am

Penny did nothing wrong
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Postby United Calanworie » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:40 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Now all that needs to happen is for Derek Chauvin and his colleagues to be pardoned for crimes they did not commit and were wrongly convicted of in a show trial with a biased judge and a rigged jury who were fearful of the potential riotous fallout of a not-guilty verdict. The BLM cult must be buried for good. Then America can truly move on from its racist past.

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I don't think the ME report tends to agree with your view here.
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:42 am

Unmet Player wrote:Penny did nothing wrong

Aside from murder a man by maintaining his choke hold for several minutes after his victim lost consciousness.
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Postby Einaro » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:42 am

Glad to see Penny got acquitted, but...

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Free Palestine cult


...what does Palestine have to do with this?
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A m e n r i a wrote:
Liberal Malaysia wrote:
Penny's haters are the ones who've made it all about race. I merely described their position. But you're right. Race had absolutely nothing to do with what happened on that train.


Hate it when a case is hijacked by idiots wanting a quick political one-up. Like sure, racism is bad, but this is about a selfless bloke who just wanted to help. This statement is coming from a guy who hates the US military.

Murder is selfless now. :roll:
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:51 am

Just will stop in to say that Chauvin should not be pardoned for what he did.
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Postby The Lazarene Republic » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:57 am

The people salivating over the idea of strangling a homeless man to death and getting away with it would have loved to witness the murder of Emmitt Till.

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Postby Page » Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:08 am

I never took the guy for a cold-blooded killer, but what I get hung up on is all those passengers telling him "Yo, he's down, but you gotta let go of him now or he's going to die" and the dude didn't listen.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:36 am

Excellent job flaming out.

You might have had something if you mainly stayed on Penny. You went on a silly direction of blaming the parent, BLM, Tinky Winky…ok you probably didn’t think of it at the time.

Now Derek Chauvin?

You lost all credibility on that one.
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Postby Camtropia » Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:46 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:This is a not-so-good day for the far-left BLM, Free Palestine cult and their unreasonable demands for special treatment for people of certain races and faiths and their systematic demonization of people of other races and faiths, particularly Jews.

LM trying not to make literally everything about the Israel-Palestine conflict challenge (impossible)

Anyway, regarding the case itself... Look, IDK enough about what exactly went down in that train. However, it does seem a bit odd that Penny maintained the choke hold for several minutes after Neely went unconscious. But if a court found him not guilty, it's probably best to just accept that and move on.
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Postby Liberal Malaysia » Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:38 am

United Calanworie wrote:
Liberal Malaysia wrote:Now all that needs to happen is for Derek Chauvin and his colleagues to be pardoned for crimes they did not commit and were wrongly convicted of in a show trial with a biased judge and a rigged jury who were fearful of the potential riotous fallout of a not-guilty verdict. The BLM cult must be buried for good. Then America can truly move on from its racist past.

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I don't think the ME report tends to agree with your view here.


Alpha News disagrees.

Einaro wrote:Glad to see Penny got acquitted, but...

Liberal Malaysia wrote:Free Palestine cult


...what does Palestine have to do with this?


The same people who support BLM also support Hamas. They're all part of the same far-left Ivy League communist woke cult. The very same one that celebrated the assassination of Brian Thompson. It's an anti-human, misanthropic ideology of misery and death.
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Liberal Malaysia wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION

I don't think the ME report tends to agree with your view here.


Alpha News disagrees.

Einaro wrote:Glad to see Penny got acquitted, but...



...what does Palestine have to do with this?


The same people who support BLM also support Hamas. They're all part of the same far-left Ivy League communist woke cult. The very same one that celebrated the assassination of Brian Thompson. It's an anti-human, misanthropic ideology of misery and death.

LM logic:
Murdering a homeless man for being a public nuisance: doubleplus good
Murdering a mass murderer for being insanely evil: doubleplus ungood

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Dec 10, 2024 3:49 am

LM wrote:Alpha News disagrees.

>Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Anti-Islam, Lack of Transparency
>Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
>Factual Reporting: LOW
> MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:01 am

Liberal Malaysia wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION

I don't think the ME report tends to agree with your view here.


Alpha News disagrees.

Einaro wrote:Glad to see Penny got acquitted, but...



...what does Palestine have to do with this?


The same people who support BLM also support Hamas. They're all part of the same far-left Ivy League communist woke cult. The very same one that celebrated the assassination of Brian Thompson. It's an anti-human, misanthropic ideology of misery and death.


You do realize that Palestine support is a centrist to rightist stance, right? And that supporting terrorism and racism is much more misanthropic?

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LM wrote:Alpha News disagrees.

>Reasoning: Poor Sourcing, Conspiracy Theories, Anti-Islam, Lack of Transparency
>Bias Rating: FAR RIGHT
>Factual Reporting: LOW
> MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY
lol


Anti-Islam is left wing by default.

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A m e n r i a wrote:
Hate it when a case is hijacked by idiots wanting a quick political one-up. Like sure, racism is bad, but this is about a selfless bloke who just wanted to help. This statement is coming from a guy who hates the US military.

Murder is selfless now. :roll:


Self defence isn't murder.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:03 am

A m e n r i a wrote:Anti-Islam is left wing by default.

surely you are joking
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:Anti-Islam is left wing by default.

surely you are joking


...Do I really have to explain how Islamic extremism is on the far right? Or how moderate Islamism is inherently right wing?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:07 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:surely you are joking


...Do I really have to explain how Islamic extremism is on the far right?

do i have to explain how all the civilised fascists in Europe and America fucking hate muslims?
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:09 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
...Do I really have to explain how Islamic extremism is on the far right?

do i have to explain how all the civilised fascists in Europe and America fucking hate muslims?


What does Europe and America have to do with the political spectrum? Actually, I'll add what Wikipedia has to say.

"Right-wing politics is the range of political ideologies that view certain social orders and hierarchies as inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position based on natural law, economics, authority, property, religion, biology, or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences or competition in market economies."

Ergo, politics that aim to maintain the authority of Islam, the majority religion has over the society, that is aligned with Indonesian tradition, would be centre-right at the weakest and far right at the strongest.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:16 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:do i have to explain how all the civilised fascists in Europe and America fucking hate muslims?


What does Europe and America have to do with the political spectrum?

Your argument was that "Anti-Islam is left wing by default". Unless there were conditions written in invisible ink attached to this statement that excluded half the planet, it doesn't exclude the PRC'ian neoliberal racists and the European and American civilised or uncivilised fascist, all of which are rabidly reactionary.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:21 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
What does Europe and America have to do with the political spectrum?

Your argument was that "Anti-Islam is left wing by default". Unless there were conditions written in invisible ink attached to this statement that excluded half the planet, it doesn't exclude the PRC'ian neoliberal racists and the European and American civilised or uncivilised fascist, all of which are rabidly reactionary.


Fair enough, have a nice evening.
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