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Postby Sardinia-Sicily » Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:51 pm

So I was watching this video yesterday of this one guy saying that trump might try to buy Greenland once more. He estimated that it would cost from anywhere between 20-50 Billion Dollars. He stated that this would be a good deal for both sides since Denmark would have to wait for the ice to melt to extract the many resources in Greenland, and instead of playing the long term, they could get an nice bag right now, also stating that there might be extra included defensive agreements for the danish outside of the NATO agreement. Meanwhile the U.S would get an island with immense riches as well as a nice Naval Base in the North Atlantic, and the U.S with their better technology could begin resource extraction right away. This was confirmed when one person asked their congressman if this would be reexplored and the Congressman confirmed it. Now in my opinion I would love to buy Greenland once we lower inflation and spending however I have a feeling the Danish would reject it. However for the right price they might be able to persuade them. Still this is all speculation and there has been no actual reports of such a thing. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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Postby Fractalnavel » Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:06 pm

What are they going to do, rename it to "Orangeland"?

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Postby The Kaisers Syndicates » Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:10 pm

Fractalnavel wrote:What are they going to do, rename it to "Orangeland"?

Nah it would be Oilland
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Postby Elfilin » Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:12 pm

The Kaisers Syndicates wrote:
Fractalnavel wrote:What are they going to do, rename it to "Orangeland"?

Nah it would be Oilland



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Postby Floofybit » Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:05 pm

Do we really want to buy a place that has a higher homicide rate than us?
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:02 am

as far as i'm aware, the greenlanders do not want to be bought. why does their opinion matter so little to people?
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Postby Futurist State of Flassau » Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:06 am

Denmark wouldn't accept jackshit about selling Greenland unless they're in a economic depression.
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Postby Ariddia » Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:08 am

Greenland is under Danish sovereignty but is self-governing. So it can't be sold without the agreement of the Greenlanders, who sure as heck aren't going to give it.

So it's not going to happen.

The very idea of buying a country is insulting. Would Trump ever accept the US being sold to a foreign power?
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Postby Adamede » Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:24 am

Ariddia wrote:Greenland is under Danish sovereignty but is self-governing. So it can't be sold without the agreement of the Greenlanders, who sure as heck aren't going to give it.

So it's not going to happen.

The very idea of buying a country is insulting. Would Trump ever accept the US being sold to a foreign power?

If he was the one doing the selling very likely.

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Postby DashOfCarolinian » Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:47 am

Ariddia wrote:The very idea of buying a country is insulting.

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Postby Shrillland » Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:49 am

DashOfCarolinian wrote:
Ariddia wrote:The very idea of buying a country is insulting.

kid named louisiana


And Alaska. And the US Virgin Islands. And parts of Arizona as well.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:53 am

DashOfCarolinian wrote:
Ariddia wrote:The very idea of buying a country is insulting.

kid named louisiana

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Postby Ci Arovannea » Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:58 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:as far as i'm aware, the greenlanders do not want to be bought. why does their opinion matter so little to people?

Racism probably.
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Postby Sardinia-Sicily » Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:59 am

Ci Arovannea wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:as far as i'm aware, the greenlanders do not want to be bought. why does their opinion matter so little to people?

Racism probably.

The answer to everything apparently
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Postby Ci Arovannea » Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:03 pm

Sardinia-Sicily wrote:
Ci Arovannea wrote:Racism probably.

The answer to everything apparently

why is it incomprehensible?

the greenlanders are overwhelmingly inuit.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Mon Dec 09, 2024 12:05 pm

Mettaton-EX wrote:as far as i'm aware, the greenlanders do not want to be bought. why does their opinion matter so little to people?


I don't think many people are taking Trump's claim about buying Greenland that seriously because he says so many other crazy things already. Of course it is a bad idea, but we don't really know for sure at this point if he is actually going to try to go through with it.

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Postby NorthernPesos » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:07 am

Shrillland wrote:
DashOfCarolinian wrote:kid named louisiana


And Alaska. And the US Virgin Islands. And parts of Arizona as well.


One advantage to Greenland being owned by America would be that the quantity of H2O in massive chunks that are cracking and sliding off the land based Greenland ice Sheet into the North Atlantic Ocean would be taken more seriously by theorists who I believe should break away from a Carbon Tax Scheme.

Cracking and sliding of H2O in massive chunks off of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is a greater threat when it comes to rising ocean levels..... but better numbers and greater awareness about Greenland could be a good thing for how the media spin how best to respond to climate change.

Everybody in northern Canada and Alaska know that significant warming is happening in the Arctic.

Sooner or later we will be in a situation where the amount of H2O being added to Antarctica will no longer balance the amount of H2O cracking and sliding off Greenland and the world's glaciers.


"At a symposium of the Union of Geodesy and geophysics, Dr. Pyyotor Shoumsky reported that the south polar ice cap was growing at a minimum rate of 293 cubic miles of ice annually. To put that number in perspective, Lake Erie contains only 109 cubic miles of water. Thus, a volume of ice forms on top of the existing ice at Antarctica each year which is almost three times the volume of water in Lake Erie!" (Expanded Discussion of The HAB Theory, Gershom Gale, Expanded Discussion on the HAB Theory.)
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Postby Orcuo » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:09 am

They should rename it to "Airstrip One".

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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:10 am

Hey, I’ve got a better idea. Trump should extract oil from underneath the ice sheets in U.S controlled sections of Antarctica. Obviously this is a ridiculous preposition, but absolutely nothing is off the table for that troglodyte

But yeah, I hope nobody else on here except Sardinia-Sicily actually wants us to buy Greenland. As long as we can still enter Denmark visa-free, buying off land from that nation is none of our business
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Postby The BlAAtschApen » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:20 am

Denmark isn't really inuit
in to it
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So it won't happen.
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Postby Adamede » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:22 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:as far as i'm aware, the greenlanders do not want to be bought. why does their opinion matter so little to people?

Are you really sirosued that MAGA doesn’t give a shit about the opinions of the natives?

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Postby Adamede » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:23 am

Socialist Ancomistan wrote:Hey, I’ve got a better idea. Trump should extract oil from underneath the ice sheets in U.S controlled sections of Antarctica. Obviously this is a ridiculous preposition, but absolutely nothing is off the table for that troglodyte

But yeah, I hope nobody else on here except Sardinia-Sicily actually wants us to buy Greenland. As long as we can still enter Denmark visa-free, buying off land from that nation is none of our business

The US doesn’t control any sections of Antarctica and doesn’t claim to, in large part because we don’t recognize any nations claims to Antarctica.

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Postby Perishna » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:49 am

Futurist State of Flassau wrote:Denmark wouldn't accept jackshit about selling Greenland unless they're in a economic depression.

And that’s a state we’re very far from (even with all that taxation, high prices on everthing (we are one of the most expensive countries in the world)
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Postby ARIsyan- » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:57 am

The Greenlanders would never let that shit slide
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