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[Draft 2] - Nuclear Test Ban

Postby Simone Republic » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:06 am

Motivation

Replacement for GA 330 (Nuclear Testing Protocol). I believe an outright ban on nuclear tests is useful. Note that this does not ban the use of nuclear weapons. I also believe this can be done as a replace-repeal, because GA330 (unlike the chemical weapons one) does not have wording that makes it difficult to ban nuclear tests outright.

Draft 2 is significantly shorter than Draft 1 because I re-worded Draft 1 to make an exception for "not causing any harm to any sapient individuals such as through a shared atmospheric, geological, or maritime ecosystem", effectively implying "don't do it on Earth, thanks, but if you can get your Space Force to do it on Uranus in another multiverse, not my problem."

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The World Assembly ("WA"),

Affirming the rights of WA states to produce and use nuclear weapons for legitimate military purposes;

Convinced that test explosions of nuclear weapons (hereafter, "tests") inevitably result in detrimental health and environmental effects on other WA states with a common atmospheric, geological or maritime ecosystem, such as through increased levels of pollution, radiation, or earthquake risks;

Confident that advances in computer simulation technology have rendered tests unnecessary and with the benefits of nuclear tests vastly outweighed by its detrimental effects;

The WA enacts as follows:

  1. No WA state may conduct any tests anywhere under its jurisdiction, or in any terra nullius.
  2. No WA state may permit any non-state entities (such as private militias) under its control to conduct any tests.
  3. No WA state may conduct, cause, fund, encourage, or participate in any tests by non-member states in areas under the jurisdiction of that non-member state, or in any terra nullius.
  4. No WA state may conduct any tests anywhere under the jurisdiction of the WA itself, including the WA Headquarters.
  5. Each WA state with relevant information related to nuclear testing is required to prevent anyone not authorized from accessing information, and to criminalize unauthorized access to such information.
  6. An exception to clause (1) or clause (3) applies if the WA state can conclusively demonstrate to the satisfaction of the World Health Assembly that such tests will not cause any harm to the environment or inhabitants of any WA state.
  7. Terms of the singular include the plural and vice versa. For the avoidance of doubt, the actual use of nuclear weapons for legitimate military purposes does not constitute a "test".


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Postby Midlona » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:28 pm

Midlona supports banning nuclear weapons tests, and would support this resolution.

1. The opening findings are strong and persuasive. I'd add marine ecosystems and transnational waterways also suffer from these tests, and contribute to the dispersion of radiological waste and pollution in addition to atmospheric dispersion.

2. Does 1(c) allow member-states to cause, fund, encourage, or participate in tests conducted by non-member-states if the tests occur in non-member jurisdiction? Midlona would support disallowing member-state funding of or participation in any tests, regardless of jurisdiction, to the extent WA law allows for such a prohibition.

3. It may be helpful to spell out the full name of the NESC and WHA on first mention, for ease of comprehension.
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Postby Imperial Cecilia » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:36 pm

Wouldn't you need to first repeal GA Resolution #330? As they are very similar in purpose and practice, you would need to show first that the previous resolution is flawed and show that your resolution would be better.
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Postby The Overmind » Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:54 pm

Imperial Cecilia wrote:Wouldn't you need to first repeal GA Resolution #330? As they are very similar in purpose and practice, you would need to show first that the previous resolution is flawed and show that your resolution would be better.

As Simone has marked this as a replacement, I believe that is his intent.
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Statement from the Department of World Assembly Affairs

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The Department of World Assembly Affairs is tasked with ensuring that World Assembly legislation and draft legislations are within Orcuo’s best interests. With that stated, it has determined the official stance on this draft legislation. Orcuo stands AGAINST aforementioned;

It has been found to be an unnecessary intrusion on Orcuan military and economic interests. This legislation would complicate Orcuan efforts in such. Ergo, Orcuo denounces this draft and encourages fellow member states to do the same;

To the author/authors of Simone Republic, we strongly recommend to retract and nullify this draft from the public forum. The continued drafting and potential submission of prior mentioned would undoubtedly lead to a decline in relationship between Orcuo and the Simone Republic.

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Orcuo wrote:
Statement from the Department of World Assembly Affairs

To the World Assembly,

The Department of World Assembly Affairs is tasked with ensuring that World Assembly legislation and draft legislations are within Orcuo’s best interests. With that stated, it has determined the official stance on this draft legislation. Orcuo stands AGAINST aforementioned;

It has been found to be an unnecessary intrusion on Orcuan military and economic interests. This legislation would complicate Orcuan efforts in such. Ergo, Orcuo denounces this draft and encourages fellow member states to do the same;

To the author/authors of Simone Republic, we strongly recommend to retract and nullify this draft from the public forum. The continued drafting and potential submission of prior mentioned would undoubtedly lead to a decline in relationship between Orcuo and the Simone Republic.

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Why are you making voting recommendations on an unsubmitted draft?
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The Overmind wrote:
Orcuo wrote:
Statement from the Department of World Assembly Affairs

To the World Assembly,

The Department of World Assembly Affairs is tasked with ensuring that World Assembly legislation and draft legislations are within Orcuo’s best interests. With that stated, it has determined the official stance on this draft legislation. Orcuo stands AGAINST aforementioned;

It has been found to be an unnecessary intrusion on Orcuan military and economic interests. This legislation would complicate Orcuan efforts in such. Ergo, Orcuo denounces this draft and encourages fellow member states to do the same;

To the author/authors of Simone Republic, we strongly recommend to retract and nullify this draft from the public forum. The continued drafting and potential submission of prior mentioned would undoubtedly lead to a decline in relationship between Orcuo and the Simone Republic.

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Why are you making voting recommendations on an unsubmitted draft?

It’s…not. It’s a declaration against the draft, not a voting recommendation.

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I want to ask. Does it count if you are doing it on your territory, (including your economic exclusion zone), and not international territory?
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Postby The Overmind » Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:13 pm

Orcuo wrote:
The Overmind wrote:Why are you making voting recommendations on an unsubmitted draft?

It’s…not. It’s a declaration against the draft, not a voting recommendation.

In the style used by most regions too guide their delegates, hence my confusion as to why it was presented this way on unfinished legislation. Typically I'd see "opposed in principle"/"opposed as written" or simply "opposed" at such an early stage.

Feel free to do whatever you want, but that's where I was coming from.
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Postby Simone Republic » Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:44 am

Khazen wrote:I want to ask. Does it count if you are doing it on your territory, (including your economic exclusion zone), and not international territory?


Yes as per (1)(a) at the moment.

Russian Brotherhood wrote:No, Nuke go brrrr. Opposed


You can keep your nukes, just that you can't test them (unless you shoot it at someone, which is specifically excluded).

Midlona wrote:Midlona supports banning nuclear weapons tests, and would support this resolution.

1. The opening findings are strong and persuasive. I'd add marine ecosystems and transnational waterways also suffer from these tests, and contribute to the dispersion of radiological waste and pollution in addition to atmospheric dispersion.


I've added "marine ecosystems".

Midlona wrote:2. Does 1(c) allow member-states to cause, fund, encourage, or participate in tests conducted by non-member-states if the tests occur in non-member jurisdiction? Midlona would support disallowing member-state funding of or participation in any tests, regardless of jurisdiction, to the extent WA law allows for such a prohibition.


Yes at the moment. I suppose it's a one-word change. I'd rather see some feedback before trying to submit this one as I kind of suspect it'd be controversial. At the moment, blowing things up in internationally neutral territory is also possible to avoid a conflict with clause 2.

Midlona wrote:3. It may be helpful to spell out the full name of the NESC and WHA on first mention, for ease of comprehension.


Clause 2. To be honest I am still thinking of whether to scrap the entire sci-fi premise of clause 2 altogether. Under the current draft WA states can test in say one of the moons of Jupiter but not near Earth. Maybe Elon Musk and the US Space Force can get that done in our lifetime, who knows.
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Postby Midlona » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:14 am

Simone Republic wrote:
Clause 2. To be honest I am still thinking of whether to scrap the entire sci-fi premise of clause 2 altogether. Under the current draft WA states can test in say one of the moons of Jupiter but not near Earth. Maybe Elon Musk and the US Space Force can get that done in our lifetime, who knows.


My apologies for missing that in Clause 2!

Fwit, there doesn't seem to be much of a gulf between the WA prohibiting tests in member-state jurisdiction and prohibiting member-states conducting/funding tests outside of their jurisdiction. In both cases, the WA is regulating member conduct that has severe international consequences.
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Postby Russian Brotherhood » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:18 pm

Simone Republic wrote:
Khazen wrote:I want to ask. Does it count if you are doing it on your territory, (including your economic exclusion zone), and not international territory?


Yes as per (1)(a) at the moment.

Russian Brotherhood wrote:No, Nuke go brrrr. Opposed


You can keep your nukes, just that you can't test them (unless you shoot it at someone, which is specifically excluded).

Midlona wrote:Midlona supports banning nuclear weapons tests, and would support this resolution.

1. The opening findings are strong and persuasive. I'd add marine ecosystems and transnational waterways also suffer from these tests, and contribute to the dispersion of radiological waste and pollution in addition to atmospheric dispersion.


I've added "marine ecosystems".

Midlona wrote:2. Does 1(c) allow member-states to cause, fund, encourage, or participate in tests conducted by non-member-states if the tests occur in non-member jurisdiction? Midlona would support disallowing member-state funding of or participation in any tests, regardless of jurisdiction, to the extent WA law allows for such a prohibition.


Yes at the moment. I suppose it's a one-word change. I'd rather see some feedback before trying to submit this one as I kind of suspect it'd be controversial. At the moment, blowing things up in internationally neutral territory is also possible to avoid a conflict with clause 2.

Midlona wrote:3. It may be helpful to spell out the full name of the NESC and WHA on first mention, for ease of comprehension.


Clause 2. To be honest I am still thinking of whether to scrap the entire sci-fi premise of clause 2 altogether. Under the current draft WA states can test in say one of the moons of Jupiter but not near Earth. Maybe Elon Musk and the US Space Force can get that done in our lifetime, who knows.

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Postby Simone Republic » Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:38 am

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The World Assembly ("WA"),

Affirming the rights of WA states to produce and use nuclear weapons for legitimate military purposes, such as wiping out civilization at the touch of a button;

Believing that test explosions of nuclear weapons ("tests") inevitably result in detrimental health and environmental effects on other WA states that share the same atmosphere, marine ecosystem, or continent as the testing state, such as increased levels of pollution, radiation, or earthquake risks;

Confident that advances in computer simulation technology (as well as in military technologies) have rendered nuclear testing unnecessary and with the benefits of nuclear tests vastly outweighed by its detrimental effects;

The WA enacts as follows:

  1. Test ban.
    1. No WA state may carry out any tests anywhere under its jurisdiction.
    2. No WA state may permit non-state entities (such as private militias) under its control to carry out any tests.
    3. No WA state may cause, fund, encourage, or participate in any tests by non-member states in areas under the jurisdiction of that non-member state, if such tests may potentially harm the environment or inhabitants of WA states, such as through a shared atmosphere or through a shared continent.
    4. No WA state (nor any WA committee) may carry out any tests anywhere under the jurisdiction of the WA itself, including the headquarters of the WA.
    5. For the avoidance of doubt, the actual use of nuclear weapons for legitimate military purposes does not constitute a "test".
  2. Uninhabited celestial bodies.
    1. For WA states that have obtained the capability to test nuclear weapons on uninhabited and isolated celestial bodies, an exception to clause (1)(a) is permitted if the WA Nuclear Energy Safety Commission ("NESC") and the World Health Authority ("WHA") are satisfied prior to the conduct of such tests that they do not pose any danger to the environment or inhabitants of both the state conducting the tests and other WA states.
    2. For WA states relying on this exception, the testing state is responsible for security measures to prevent unauthorised access to such celestial bodies, and for protecting the confidentiality of data on any tests.
  3. NESC role.
    1. NESC is responsible for using the latest geophysical and other technologies to monitor compliance with this resolution, as well as (in conjunction with the WHA) in attendance and monitoring of any tests.
    2. The work of the NESC and the WHA under this resolution is to be funded by fees levied on WA states that possess nuclear weapons, on a pro-rata basis based on the number of nuclear warheads owned by each WA state.
    3. NESC is responsible for enforcement and interpretation of this resolution.


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Russian Brotherhood wrote:I prefer nuclear testing, I would rather have it.


I don't mind it happening somewhere outside of the Solar System and I kinda changed the draft to backdoor ignore this if the US Space Force ever pulls this off.

Imperial Cecilia wrote:Wouldn't you need to first repeal GA Resolution #330? As they are very similar in purpose and practice, you would need to show first that the previous resolution is flawed and show that your resolution would be better.


As far as I can tell (although I am known to be sloppy on this), no, because every clause is stronger than GA330 as it stands, so it would slip through the duplication and contradiction rules.

Edit: have also cut this bullet which was rather RP related:
[*]Conducting a test at a location in a multiverse that does not share a planetary system with any WA state is deemed to satisfy the condition stated in clause (5) unless demonstrated otherwise.
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Wallenburg wrote:"Does the World Assembly intend to render freely available data from these supposedly equivalent simulations to those member states, such as mine, that lack the capacity to produce simulations of equivalent military research utility?"


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"While in principle we have no objections to prohibiting the use or testing of nuclear weapons, we believe the latter should be conditional on the former being in place. Simply prohibiting nuclear testing while allowing the use of nuclear weapons will merely cause them to be used untested with greater risks of accidents occuring as a result. As an example of what untested WMD deployment can cause, see the conversion of millions of both communists and Icers into goblinoids during the last civil war."

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Postby Simone Republic » Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:21 am

The Ice States wrote:"While in principle we have no objections to prohibiting the use or testing of nuclear weapons, we believe the latter should be conditional on the former being in place. Simply prohibiting nuclear testing while allowing the use of nuclear weapons will merely cause them to be used untested with greater risks of accidents occuring as a result. As an example of what untested WMD deployment can cause, see the conversion of millions of both communists and Icers into goblinoids during the last civil war."

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"Given your nation's track record of using WMDs in the World Assembly Headquarters, we find this complaint to be irrelevant. As an example, you did it here."
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Simone Republic wrote:
The Ice States wrote:"While in principle we have no objections to prohibiting the use or testing of nuclear weapons, we believe the latter should be conditional on the former being in place. Simply prohibiting nuclear testing while allowing the use of nuclear weapons will merely cause them to be used untested with greater risks of accidents occuring as a result. As an example of what untested WMD deployment can cause, see the conversion of millions of both communists and Icers into goblinoids during the last civil war."

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Postby Saint Asperes » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:49 pm

Hey chap, I would recommend that this Draft moves towards restrictions instead of an out right ban ex: "the restriction on the amount of nuclear test member-states can launch with in a year etc"., this Draft if it ever makes it to the floor will receive staunch opposition.
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Saint Asperes wrote:Hey chap, I would recommend that this Draft moves towards restrictions instead of an out right ban ex: "the restriction on the amount of nuclear test member-states can launch with in a year etc"., this Draft if it ever makes it to the floor will receive staunch opposition.


I have no idea if it's going to pass or not. It seems to be worth a shot though.
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