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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:01 am

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/sou ... index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.
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Postby Russian Collation » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

In their quest to stop North Korea they are becoming like them. There better not be ww3 I am still 15 and I want to get a wife and children and not die.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:04 am

To quote Tyra Banks:
“I was rooting for you, we were all rooting for you! How dare you!”

Surely there’s another way to settle this issue without ending (or nearly ending) democracy?

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Postby Hutsuls » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:04 am

It is funny and poetic. They accuse North Korea of being tyrannical and they are the ones who suspended democracy, declared emergency and established tyranny. Undoubtedly, after USA blessings.

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Postby Slembana » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:05 am

Russian Collation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

In their quest to stop North Korea they are becoming like them. There better not be ww3 I am still 15 and I want to get a wife and children and not die.

Funnily enough, South Korea was heavily authoritarian and much like the north up until the 80s.
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Russian Collation wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

In their quest to stop North Korea they are becoming like them. There better not be ww3 I am still 15 and I want to get a wife and children and not die.


I am afraid you might be out of luck. I am saying this seriously, enjoy your life while you still can. Because war is one thing, another pandemic is coming.

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I do not like where this is going one bit. Especially since 2025 is just around the corner.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:07 am

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20241203050118

South Korean Minister of National Defense Kim Yong-hyun called a meeting of key commanders late Tuesday as President Yoon Suk Yeol declared an emergency martial law.

In a brief alert, the Ministry of National Defense said the minister convened a meeting gathering commanders across the country and ordered all forces to be on high alert.
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Postby Kostane » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:08 am

It’s interesting to see the escalation of tensions globally in the wake of Trump’s elections. There’s new activity in Syria, and now this in Korea? It seems like people are preparing for being less reliant on the U.S. and fighting their own wars already.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

Usually when the opposition controls parliament that just means that they're the government. Perhaps there's some finer points of South Korea political structure I'm missing here, but it sounds like the "emergency" is that Yoon doesn't have total control of the government.
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Postby Cerespasia » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:10 am

Kostane wrote:It’s interesting to see the escalation of tensions globally in the wake of Trump’s elections. There’s new activity in Syria, and now this in Korea? It seems like people are preparing for being less reliant on the U.S. and fighting their own wars already.

The return of the multipolar world.

I guess...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:11 am

https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20241203050119

Ruling People Power Party Chair Han Dong-hoon criticized President Yoon Suk Yeol's declaration of martial law, calling the decision "wrong," in a statement released late Tuesday. He added that he plans to stop the president's move "alongside the people."


Ifreann wrote:Usually when the opposition controls parliament that just means that they're the government. Perhaps there's some finer points of South Korea political structure I'm missing here, but it sounds like the "emergency" is that Yoon doesn't have total control of the government.


That is also how I've interpreted it thus far. Curious to see if the Army is going to go along with it or not.
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Postby Port Carverton » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:12 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:To quote Tyra Banks:
“I was rooting for you, we were all rooting for you! How dare you!”

Surely there’s another way to settle this issue without ending (or nearly ending) democracy?

The final solution to the WPK question is that way, which I'm not sure you'd like

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:13 am

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Postby Russian Collation » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:13 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

Usually when the opposition controls parliament that just means that they're the government. Perhaps there's some finer points of South Korea political structure I'm missing here, but it sounds like the "emergency" is that Yoon doesn't have total control of the government.

South Korea has not been heavy democratic anyway but its about to get WAY worse.
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Postby Slembana » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:13 am

Hutsuls wrote:
Russian Collation wrote:In their quest to stop North Korea they are becoming like them. There better not be ww3 I am still 15 and I want to get a wife and children and not die.


I am afraid you might be out of luck. I am saying this seriously, enjoy your life while you still can. Because war is one thing, another pandemic is coming.

There’s also runaway climate change.
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Slembana wrote:
Hutsuls wrote:
I am afraid you might be out of luck. I am saying this seriously, enjoy your life while you still can. Because war is one thing, another pandemic is coming.

There’s also runaway climate change.


Climate change happens every so often, that is not a big deal. It happens every thousands of years, which you may think os a lot but in terms of life of the universe, just a fraction. that is a natural phenomena and generally population survives, but this time, I am not so sure.

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Postby Pale Dawn » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:17 am

Well not looking good for South korea, i expect sizable arrests to begin and a quiting of democratic traditions for a bit. I do wonder what Biden and Trump's responses will be.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:17 am

Hutsuls wrote:
Slembana wrote:There’s also runaway climate change.


Climate change happens every so often, that is not a big deal. It happens every thousands of years, which you may think os a lot but in terms of life of the universe, just a fraction. that is a natural phenomena and generally population survives, but this time, I am not so sure.

Lol, of course he's a climate change denier.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:20 am

Port Carverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:To quote Tyra Banks:
“I was rooting for you, we were all rooting for you! How dare you!”

Surely there’s another way to settle this issue without ending (or nearly ending) democracy?

The final solution to the WPK question is that way, which I'm not sure you'd like


I just want a color revolution against the Kim family not final solutions or martial law.

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Postby Kerwa » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:20 am

I guess Johnny Somali pushed them over the edge. Oh well, now they can execute him. This was probably always the plan.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:21 am

This is machine translated so it may not be perfect, but it's the President's speech he gave when declaring martial law;

Since the inauguration of our government, the National Assembly has proposed 22 impeachment motions against government officials, and since the launch of the 22nd National Assembly in June, they are already pushing for the impeachment of the 10th individual.

This is unprecedented not only globally but also in the history of our nation since its founding.

By intimidating judges and attempting to impeach numerous prosecutors, they are paralyzing the judiciary. Additionally, efforts to impeach the Minister of the Interior and Safety, the Chair of the Korea Communications Commission, the Chair of the Board of Audit and Inspection, and even the Minister of National Defense are paralyzing the executive branch.

The handling of the national budget has also been disastrous. All major funds essential for the nation’s core functions, drug crime control, and public safety have been slashed, damaging the fundamental functions of the state and leaving the public to suffer from a drug epidemic and public safety crisis.

The Democratic Party has cut 1 trillion KRW from the disaster response reserve fund, 38.4 billion KRW from childcare subsidies, and 4.1 trillion KRW from youth employment, deep-sea gas field development projects, and others in next year’s budget. They have even obstructed improvements to the treatment of military officers, such as raises for junior officers and allowances for night duties.

Such reckless budgetary actions are nothing short of financial exploitation of the people. Using the budget solely as a tool for political strife, this legislative dictatorship by the Democratic Party has even led to the impeachment of the national budget itself.

The state’s governance is paralyzed, and the sighs of the people are growing louder. These actions trample on the constitutional order of the Republic of Korea, disrupt legitimate state institutions established by the Constitution and the law, and constitute a clear anti-national act aimed at inciting rebellion.

With no regard for the lives of the people, the state is in paralysis, solely focused on impeachments, special investigations, and shielding opposition leaders from accountability. The National Assembly has become a den of criminals, paralyzing the nation's judicial and administrative systems through legislative dictatorship and conspiring to overthrow the democratic system.

The National Assembly, which should serve as the foundation of democracy, has turned into a monster seeking to dismantle the democratic system itself.

The Republic of Korea now stands on the brink of collapse, teetering like a candle in the wind.

Dear citizens, in order to protect the Republic of Korea from the threats posed by North Korean communist forces and to eradicate the shameless pro-North anti-state forces that threaten the freedom and happiness of our people, I hereby declare martial law.

Through this martial law, I will rebuild and protect the Republic of Korea from falling into ruin.

To this end, I will thoroughly root out the anti-state forces that have committed destructive acts and have been the architects of national ruin.

This is an inevitable measure to safeguard the freedom and safety of the people and ensure the sustainability of the nation in the face of anti-state forces seeking to overthrow our system, as well as to pass on a proper country to future generations.

I will work to eradicate these anti-state forces and normalize the state in the shortest possible time.

I understand that this martial law will cause inconvenience to the good citizens who believe in and follow the constitutional values of the Republic of Korea, but I will do my utmost to minimize these inconveniences.

Such measures are unavoidable for the preservation of the Republic of Korea’s continuity and do not alter the nation’s foreign policy stance of fulfilling its responsibilities and contributions to the international community.

I earnestly appeal to the people as your President. I will dedicate my life to protecting the Republic of Korea, relying solely on the trust of the people. Please place your faith in me.


That, uh, doesn't sound good.
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Postby Kerwa » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:24 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/03/asia/south-korea-martial-law-intl/index.html
https://apnews.com/article/south-korea- ... 4597e577c1

President Yoon Suk Yeol just declared emergency martial law in South Korea, accusing the opposition of controlling parliament, collaborating with Pyongyang and paralyzing the government with "anti-state activities". Still breaking news so there's not much response yet, but what say you NSG? I certainly didn't have a return of the South Korean dictatorship on my bingo card for the end of 2024.

Usually when the opposition controls parliament that just means that they're the government. Perhaps there's some finer points of South Korea political structure I'm missing here, but it sounds like the "emergency" is that Yoon doesn't have total control of the government.


I believe the President is elected directly and so can come from the minority parties. I suppose this is a flaw that the political “scientists” who drew up the system did not forsee.

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Ifreann wrote:
Hutsuls wrote:
Climate change happens every so often, that is not a big deal. It happens every thousands of years, which you may think os a lot but in terms of life of the universe, just a fraction. that is a natural phenomena and generally population survives, but this time, I am not so sure.

Lol, of course he's a climate change denier.


Where did I deny climate change? /facepalm

Can you just put aside your political biases for 5 minutes and try to understand what I say? It is not difficult

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:26 am

Police have reportedly blocked entry to the National Assembly and aren't allowing legislators in. As per the South Korean constitution, a majority of the legislature can vote to overturn martial law, and it looks like Yoon is taking steps to ensure they either can't do that or call them illegitimate if they try.
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