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The Sinker Loop

Postby IdontCare » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:08 pm

TL;DR: What would happen if a nation was banned from all 3 sinker regions?

In the NS Hampter realm:

Hampter 1: So we’re fine. As long as no one gets banned from all 3 sinker regions.
Disgraceful Nation: Question.
Hampter 1: What’s your question, nation?
Disgraceful Nation: I got banned from a region!
Hampter 1: What?
Disgraceful Nation: You told me to!
Hampter 1: How…many times?
Disgraceful Nation: I have done nothing but ban speedrun the sinker regions 3 times!
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Max Barry: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN BANNED FROM?!?!?!?!

The server trembles as the Disgraceful Nation is being bounced in limbo between the 3 sinker regions, all of which he had been banned from, with no end in sight.
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Postby Kostane » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:11 pm

This either belongs in F7 or technical or nowhere at all. You should probably elaborate based on the fact that I can't tell. It could belong here too I just have no idea what I'm supposed to do.
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Postby IdontCare » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:13 pm

Kostane wrote:This either belongs in F7 or technical or nowhere at all. You should probably elaborate based on the fact that I can't tell. It could belong here too I just have no idea what I'm supposed to do.

My apologies, my mind slipped. This should go in technical; I just made a random TF2 reference.
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Sinker Limbo

Postby IdontCare » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:14 pm

What would happen when a nation is banned from all 3 sinker regions? Would the servers implode (again)?
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Postby Aadhiris » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:17 pm

No, they just get randomly placed in another sinker.
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Postby IdontCare » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:20 pm

Aadhiris wrote:No, they just get randomly placed in another sinker.

No, no. Suppose a nation, which hath been already banned from The Rejected Realms and the Outback, gets banned from the Plains of Perdition. What would happen?
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Postby Kostane » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:21 pm

IdontCare wrote:
Aadhiris wrote:No, they just get randomly placed in another sinker.

No, no. Suppose a nation, which hath been already banned from The Rejected Realms and the Outback, gets banned from the Plains of Perdition. What would happen?

They would be randomly placed in another sinker. It's already happened several times. I was there, I watched it happen.
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Postby IdontCare » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:22 pm

Kostane wrote:
IdontCare wrote:No, no. Suppose a nation, which hath been already banned from The Rejected Realms and the Outback, gets banned from the Plains of Perdition. What would happen?

They would be randomly placed in another sinker. It's already happened several times. I was there, I watched it happen.

So they get unbanned from the sinker they get placed in?
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Postby Kostane » Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:23 pm

IdontCare wrote:
Kostane wrote:They would be randomly placed in another sinker. It's already happened several times. I was there, I watched it happen.

So they get unbanned from the sinker they get placed in?

No. They still can't join any other sinker. They still are banned from all the sinkers. They just get unejected.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:29 am

So now you enter a region where you are banned (albeit only sinkers), yeah?

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Postby BEEstreetz » Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:24 am

Loops are favourable in Web servers and Video games under certain conditions. These ones in particular:
  1. It is properly terminated. Meaning that it doesn't use a "goto" statement, rather a "while", "for", or "do+while" (in C terms).
  2. It does not cause an infinite loop. Termination (ejection) ends the loop, making the process itself unable to reach an infinite loop.
  3. There is a clear purpose. The purpose is providing means of sanction prior to a ban.

What you (and the ^ with cracks living in the walls) seem to be suggesting is that a race condition would somehow be possible to achieve.
You are thinking in a user-facing paradigm. The machine sees datasets being moved in and out of memory. Mere fact of its possibility in re-entering the same memory after a cycle is not an issue in the Web application (or continuous game logic and rendering).
While it sounds like a Systems (due to memory persistence) and Network (due to caching) nightmare, we are not on those layers here.
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Postby Verdant Haven » Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:33 am

That reply has literally nothing to do with anything here, and I honestly checked to see if you were a spam bot based on how absurdly irrelevant and AI-generated that reply sounded in this already tenuously relevant conversation.

BEEstreetz - whatever randomness motivated that, Technical is not the place for your spam. Cut it out.


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