[DEFEATED] Liberate Empires Forever United

[The Ice States]

This just reached vote despite apparently not having a forum thread until today ... so here it is

The author is Army of Revolutions, with co-author Klarken. I was not involved myself in this proposal.

The Security Council,

Praising the devotion of the nations to form a Frontier in the restless sea of newly founded nations,

Recognizing their year long journey of stability with the devout perseverance of Ter Landia as their longstanding delegate,

Knowing that legislation by this body serves to mitigate damages done by foreign invaders,

Noting the recent invasion by raider forces seeking to dismantle a budding community,

Shocked that Empires Forever United had been targeted for takeover with such deplorable use of force,

Saddened by the thought of tyranny from invading forces oppressing the prospective community of Empires Forever United,

Asserting the need for a swift intervention to prevent total destruction,

Hereby Liberates Empires Forever United

[Elite]

Not forum drafted. Against.

[Lumiere du Premier]

An exact same vote on this already passed. How the hell did this reach quorum?

[Rhaza]

An exact same vote on this already passed. How the hell did this reach quorum?

Invaders (the same people occupying the region) submitted this and an Injunction (which fell out of queue) as a joke, I suppose. Absent any laughter, but an attempt nonetheless.

[Army of Revolutions]

An exact same vote on this already passed. How the hell did this reach quorum?

Invaders (the same people occupying the region) submitted this and an Injunction (which fell out of queue) as a joke, I suppose. Absent any laughter, but an attempt nonetheless.

I believe that the correct terminology is that we submitted our proposals first. But yes, this proposal would liberate EFU a second time

[Haymarket Riot]

Didn't bother reading, against.

[Rhaza]

Invaders (the same people occupying the region) submitted this and an Injunction (which fell out of queue) as a joke, I suppose. Absent any laughter, but an attempt nonetheless.

I believe that the correct terminology is that we submitted our proposals first. But yes, this proposal would liberate EFU a second time

What does the speed of proposal submission have to do with good/bad faith, or this being a joke?

[Bilancorn]

An exact same vote on this already passed. How the hell did this reach quorum?

Invaders (the same people occupying the region) submitted this and an Injunction (which fell out of queue) as a joke, I suppose. Absent any laughter, but an attempt nonetheless.

Yep. Thats why I voted against.

[The Kharkivan Cossacks]

Debating between voting FOR just to see the hypothetical “two liberations” or against because it’s just another one and I didn’t laugh, LWU has better jokes than this raider proposal.

[Outer Sparta]

Was this submitted after the first version in quorum? On the other hand, in the scenario this one managed to pass, we would have two liberation badges on one region then?

[East Chimore]

Was this submitted after the first version in quorum? On the other hand, in the scenario this one managed to pass, we would have two liberation badges on one region then?

This was submitted first, but did not reach quorum before the indefendent version did. It met quorum shortly before falling out of the queue, and thus, came to be the current resolution at vote.

And I do also want to see what happens when a region has double liberations on it. It would be funny, if nothing else.

[Army of Revolutions]

I believe that the correct terminology is that we submitted our proposals first. But yes, this proposal would liberate EFU a second time

What does the speed of proposal submission have to do with good/bad faith, or this being a joke?

You're entitled to your own opinion but it certainly would be cool to see a region with 2 liberations. It's clear that this proposal won't pass and yet you and many other prominent defenders have the energy to debate a blocker but can't bother to try to liberate the region over other ventures.

On a separate note, I throughly hope you enjoy being a GCR delegate for a very long time to come

[Elite]

Sure, I guess I could come up with a legitimate reason for it not to pass from a defender perspective. Assuming we're able to stop the inevitable dirty refound attempt on the region, the natives who decide to come back to the region may decide they want to lock the region down. Passing two repeals to allow for this would be mildly more annoying than passing one.

[Rhaza]

On a separate note, I throughly hope you enjoy being a GCR delegate for a very long time to come

I do too. I think I’ve earned my rest. Once Perdition is secure, at least.

[Zuenei]

What the... I thought we already passed this?

[Great Britain-and Northern Ireland]

What the... I thought we already passed this?

Indeed. However, the region remains under the occupation of The Black Hawks.

[Great Britain-and Northern Ireland]

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland officially supports this proposal.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland officially supports this proposal.

Why? No seriously why? A Liberation has already been passed, this is just a queue stuffer designed to delay the Injunction from coming to vote.

As usual you’re on the wrong side of history.

[Great Britain-and Northern Ireland]

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland officially supports this proposal.

Why? No seriously why? A Liberation has already been passed, this is just a queue stuffer designed to delay the Injunction from coming to vote.

As usual you’re on the wrong side of history.

No, the region is still under the occupation of The Black Hawks. That’s why I’m supporting this proposal.

[Mr beast burger]

I think they forgot to pull it

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Why? No seriously why? A Liberation has already been passed, this is just a queue stuffer designed to delay the Injunction from coming to vote.

As usual you’re on the wrong side of history.

No, the region is still under the occupation of The Black Hawks. That’s why I’m supporting this proposal.

So how are two Liberations better than one? Please explain how having two is better? No, wait, don’t bother because it’s obvious you haven’t a clue about the mechanics involved and would rather help the raiders occupying the region.

[East Chimore]

No, the region is still under the occupation of The Black Hawks. That’s why I’m supporting this proposal.

So how are two Liberations better than one? Please explain how having two is better? No, wait, don’t bother because it’s obvious you haven’t a clue about the mechanics involved and would rather help the raiders occupying the region.

Because it'd be funny to have two liberation badges. That's how a second breakfast liberation is better.

[Great Britain-and Northern Ireland]

No, the region is still under the occupation of The Black Hawks. That’s why I’m supporting this proposal.

So how are two Liberations better than one? Please explain how having two is better? No, wait, don’t bother because it’s obvious you haven’t a clue about the mechanics involved and would rather help the raiders occupying the region.

It is better as the first Liberation proposal clearly did not succeed in achieving its original purpose.

Also, for your information, I am a defender. I am not going to assist the raiders with their occupation of the region.

[Angeloid Astraea]

Not forum drafted. Against.

The first one wasn't forum drafted either! Did you vote against it too?

I believe that the correct terminology is that we submitted our proposals first. But yes, this proposal would liberate EFU a second time

What does the speed of proposal submission have to do with good/bad faith, or this being a joke?

All Liberation proposals are made in bad faith, though.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

So how are two Liberations better than one? Please explain how having two is better? No, wait, don’t bother because it’s obvious you haven’t a clue about the mechanics involved and would rather help the raiders occupying the region.

It is better as the first Liberation proposal clearly did not succeed in achieving its original purpose.

Also, for your information, I am a defender. I am not going to assist the raiders with their occupation of the region.

You’re a defender? And I’m the King of Siam. The first Liberation achieved its purpose - it prevented the WA Delegate from imposing a password. That’s what a Liberation does and that’s all it does.

So, I ask again how does a second Liberation improve on that?