What Happened to Orcuo?

[Lumiere du Premier]

I think this is the correct thread to place questions, please forgive me if I'm incorrect as I might have mistaken another thread for this.

Ahem, anyway, what happened to the player Orcuo?I saw that they were DEAT but can it be known why?

All it says that the name Orcuo has been disgraced but I can't find any recent thread in mod to answer the question: why? I can't find anything scrolling through moderation

[United Calanworie]

So. It turns out that if you make literally over 40,000 spam HTML requests (in under two days) to our servers, we notice. And we really really really really really really really really do not take kindly to that sort of thing.

For future reference, if you're considering doing anything similar, we will enact the same sort of punishment. Abuse of server resources is not something we look upon kindly.

[Arctic Lands]

Wow that's an interesting reason. What were the requests about?

[Lumiere du Premier]

So. It turns out that if you make literally over 40,000 spam HTML requests (in under two days) to our servers, we notice. And we really really really really really really really really do not take kindly to that sort of thing.

For future reference, if you're considering doing anything similar, we will enact the same sort of punishment. Abuse of server resources is not something we look upon kindly.

What does that mean exactly though? What are you saying? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am no tech wizard so I'm pretty much clueless in this field, what does that mean in other words, and why was Orcuo doing it?

[United Calanworie]

So. It turns out that if you make literally over 40,000 spam HTML requests (in under two days) to our servers, we notice. And we really really really really really really really really do not take kindly to that sort of thing.

For future reference, if you're considering doing anything similar, we will enact the same sort of punishment. Abuse of server resources is not something we look upon kindly.

What does that mean exactly though? What are you saying? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am no tech wizard so I'm pretty much clueless in this field, what does that mean in other words, and why was Orcuo doing it?

Okay so:
NationStates offers two main methods of consuming content here. The main HTML site (what you see when you load a page) and the API. The API is designed for bot consumption, and has a ratelimit of fifty requests per thirty seconds. The HTML site is designed for human consumption, with your eyeballs. As such, there's a little bit of a difference in terms of the load placed on the server when you make an API request versus an HTML request.
This is how big an API request to nation=united_calanworie is in bytes:
>>> len(r.content)
3539

This is how big the HTML alone is for a request to nation=united_calanworie
>>> len(r.content)
4520

But we load more than just the HTML tags. We also load images, JS, CSS, etc. This totals out to 207.2kb for nation=united_calanworie. That's 207,200 bytes. Quick math time, divide 207,200 by 3539, and you get 58.54. That's the factor of which the request size changes. An HTML request is nearly sixty times larger than an API request. If you're making 60,000 requests (which Orcuo made in the ballpark of in total) you've now loaded 12432000000 bytes, or 12432 megabytes, or 12.432 gigabytes of content. That's a lot! That's like, so much content! Our servers don't want to have to serve an extra 12.43gb of content for what is effectively a bot. They'd much rather serve 212367611 bytes, or about .21 gigabytes.

Can you start to see why we don't want people hammering away at the main site like it's the API?

As to why he was doing it, I have literally no idea. I can't speculate as to why people do things like what he did. It just doesn't make sense to me, I hear about people doing these things and I go ??????.

[Hutsuls]

What does that mean exactly though? What are you saying? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am no tech wizard so I'm pretty much clueless in this field, what does that mean in other words, and why was Orcuo doing it?

Okay so:
NationStates offers two main methods of consuming content here. The main HTML site (what you see when you load a page) and the API. The API is designed for bot consumption, and has a ratelimit of fifty requests per thirty seconds. The HTML site is designed for human consumption, with your eyeballs. As such, there's a little bit of a difference in terms of the load placed on the server when you make an API request versus an HTML request.
This is how big an API request to nation=united_calanworie is in bytes:
>>> len(r.content)
3539

This is how big the HTML alone is for a request to nation=united_calanworie
>>> len(r.content)
4520

But we load more than just the HTML tags. We also load images, JS, CSS, etc. This totals out to 207.2kb for nation=united_calanworie. That's 207,200 bytes. Quick math time, divide 207,200 by 3539, and you get 58.54. That's the factor of which the request size changes. An HTML request is nearly sixty times larger than an API request. If you're making 60,000 requests (which Orcuo made in the ballpark of in total) you've now loaded 12432000000 bytes, or 12432 megabytes, or 12.432 gigabytes of content. That's a lot! That's like, so much content! Our servers don't want to have to serve an extra 12.43gb of content for what is effectively a bot. They'd much rather serve 212367611 bytes, or about .21 gigabytes.

Can you start to see why we don't want people hammering away at the main site like it's the API?

As to why he was doing it, I have literally no idea. I can't speculate as to why people do things like what he did. It just doesn't make sense to me, I hear about people doing these things and I go ??????.

It looks like a DDoS attack.

[Jutsa]

If it has anything to do with that deleted dispatch in a suppressed message on our RMB, he just really wanted a guy named Grego to breathe. If not, then forget what I just said.

As an aside, as someone who has merely glanced at API and nearly fainted, I will absolutely be putting this and anything like this in my "don't ever do this ever" bucket (it was already there, now it's stacked with evidence I'll forget within a couple months). His ludicrous sacrifice of two accounts and the mods' sanity will nevertheless be in vein as it always would've been because why would you or anyone do this

Edit: Correction: Actually with my very limited technical knowledge, it would've been very much possible I'd have done the same thing at some point in the future. So. while in vein, I at least learned something.

[The Overmind]

The moderators have their work cut out for them thanks to the devolution of a General thread into a conglomeration of every imaginable sort of rulebreaking and its (as of now) two-page report thread, but once they're done dealing with that, can someone in moderation confirm whether or not Orcuo and the red text spammer that's currently committing suicide by mod are the same person?

[Necroghastia]

The moderators have their work cut out for them thanks to the devolution of a General thread into a conglomeration of every imaginable sort of rulebreaking and its (as of now) two-page report thread, but once they're done dealing with that, can someone in moderation confirm whether or not Orcuo and the red text spammer that's currently committing suicide by mod are the same person?

The one in the gender thread? No, they are not.

[The Overmind]

The moderators have their work cut out for them thanks to the devolution of a General thread into a conglomeration of every imaginable sort of rulebreaking and its (as of now) two-page report thread, but once they're done dealing with that, can someone in moderation confirm whether or not Orcuo and the red text spammer that's currently committing suicide by mod are the same person?

The one in the gender thread? No, they are not.

Thanks!

[Ammmericaaaa]

Is Orcuo a DOS?

[Socialist Lop]

What does that mean exactly though? What are you saying? Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I am no tech wizard so I'm pretty much clueless in this field, what does that mean in other words, and why was Orcuo doing it?

Okay so:
NationStates offers two main methods of consuming content here. The main HTML site (what you see when you load a page) and the API. The API is designed for bot consumption, and has a ratelimit of fifty requests per thirty seconds. The HTML site is designed for human consumption, with your eyeballs. As such, there's a little bit of a difference in terms of the load placed on the server when you make an API request versus an HTML request.
This is how big an API request to nation=united_calanworie is in bytes:
>>> len(r.content)
3539

This is how big the HTML alone is for a request to nation=united_calanworie
>>> len(r.content)
4520

But we load more than just the HTML tags. We also load images, JS, CSS, etc. This totals out to 207.2kb for nation=united_calanworie. That's 207,200 bytes. Quick math time, divide 207,200 by 3539, and you get 58.54. That's the factor of which the request size changes. An HTML request is nearly sixty times larger than an API request. If you're making 60,000 requests (which Orcuo made in the ballpark of in total) you've now loaded 12432000000 bytes, or 12432 megabytes, or 12.432 gigabytes of content. That's a lot! That's like, so much content! Our servers don't want to have to serve an extra 12.43gb of content for what is effectively a bot. They'd much rather serve 212367611 bytes, or about .21 gigabytes.

Can you start to see why we don't want people hammering away at the main site like it's the API?

As to why he was doing it, I have literally no idea. I can't speculate as to why people do things like what he did. It just doesn't make sense to me, I hear about people doing these things and I go ??????.

So, a quick question of mine. In what way was he able to consume so much data, to the point of surpassing the HTML request limit? I know it had to do with a dispatch, seeing as how a previous nation had mentioned this, but was it through a ridiculous amount of text on a single dispatch, an obnoxious amount of images, or some other, unorthodox method im not aware of? I'm asking this so I can avoid making the same mistake as him, seeing as how I depend on uploading Word documents onto a dispatch to showcase a story I've been working on for a while, and I don't want to accidentally hammer away on site content.

[Valentine Z]

If I may, my understanding is that what Orcuo did was to bump up those "x reads" to some large number.

I will hazard a guess that a dispatch having a lot of words should be fine since it's still limited by 90,000 characters. Images, however, are another thing entirely. My own personal take is to have these images in the spoilers (I assume the images don't load when they are inside a spoiler; I tested this out on Firefox's Network Analyzer.) I have done three dispatches showing my photography stuff - which for all intents and purposes, I am not plugging them here, it's more to tell what I have done to prevent a data explosion for effectively anyone looking at them.

[Aurorastan]

Jezz. That was unexpected .

[Volikara]

Okay so:
NationStates offers two main methods of consuming content here. The main HTML site (what you see when you load a page) and the API. The API is designed for bot consumption, and has a ratelimit of fifty requests per thirty seconds. The HTML site is designed for human consumption, with your eyeballs. As such, there's a little bit of a difference in terms of the load placed on the server when you make an API request versus an HTML request.
This is how big an API request to nation=united_calanworie is in bytes:
>>> len(r.content)
3539

This is how big the HTML alone is for a request to nation=united_calanworie
>>> len(r.content)
4520

But we load more than just the HTML tags. We also load images, JS, CSS, etc. This totals out to 207.2kb for nation=united_calanworie. That's 207,200 bytes. Quick math time, divide 207,200 by 3539, and you get 58.54. That's the factor of which the request size changes. An HTML request is nearly sixty times larger than an API request. If you're making 60,000 requests (which Orcuo made in the ballpark of in total) you've now loaded 12432000000 bytes, or 12432 megabytes, or 12.432 gigabytes of content. That's a lot! That's like, so much content! Our servers don't want to have to serve an extra 12.43gb of content for what is effectively a bot. They'd much rather serve 212367611 bytes, or about .21 gigabytes.

Can you start to see why we don't want people hammering away at the main site like it's the API?

As to why he was doing it, I have literally no idea. I can't speculate as to why people do things like what he did. It just doesn't make sense to me, I hear about people doing these things and I go ??????.

So, a quick question of mine. In what way was he able to consume so much data, to the point of surpassing the HTML request limit? I know it had to do with a dispatch, seeing as how a previous nation had mentioned this, but was it through a ridiculous amount of text on a single dispatch, an obnoxious amount of images, or some other, unorthodox method im not aware of? I'm asking this so I can avoid making the same mistake as him, seeing as how I depend on uploading Word documents onto a dispatch to showcase a story I've been working on for a while, and I don't want to accidentally hammer away on site content.

I belive they were using a script to spam views on a dispatch