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[R] Support for fascism in general.

Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:20 pm

The forum has people who endorse and excuse fascist regimes and attempts to fight them. This is concerning to me and I feel lots of other forum members are disguisted at fascism and nazi excusing!

I apologise for poor english. You can see here. https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=551126&start=9225

Kind regards.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:48 pm

Fascism is not automatically against the site rules, though promotion of Nazi ideology specifically is forbidden. If you believe specific posts are violating the site rules, please report them by linking to those exact posts.
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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:52 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Fascism is not automatically against the site rules, though promotion of Nazi ideology specifically is forbidden. If you believe specific posts are violating the site rules, please report them by linking to those exact posts.

very well thank you for clearing up for me :)

I also want to report some toxic discussion. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=551126&p=42140637#p42140637

"We understand. We understand Russia has been lying from the start, and we understand yorie the type to believe said lies." : Very rude and toxic way of engaging in civil discusion.

"Yeah but how you see it is fucking stupid, so nobody cares": Also very toxic and rude. shocking actually.

Sorry if annoying you just concerned.

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Postby United Calanworie » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:55 pm

You've linked your own post here which contains none of those remarks. Link the posts containing the remarks, please. Click the little page icon on the post to get a direct link.

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Postby The Kharkivan Cossacks » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:57 pm

I would like to step in and note that they appear to be referencing those who Support Ukraine, which would imply them calling anyone who Support Ukraine "Fascists" and "Nazi's" which could fall under all "X and Y", as well as possible mods as weapons.
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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:57 pm

United Calanworie wrote:You've linked your own post here which contains none of those remarks. Link the posts containing the remarks, please. Click the little page icon on the post to get a direct link.

Apologies. Can be found here:

Tarsonis wrote:
Lumiere du Premier wrote:
It doesn't, you're reading into the logic wrong.


More like logic isn't exactly your strong suit here


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Lumiere du Premier wrote:
Ah I figured you might say that. Thats not how I see it lol. What is now Peru was independent as the Inca Empire before the Spanish took over and turned it into Peru


Yeah but how you see it is fucking stupid, so nobody cares

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Postby United Calanworie » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:06 pm

Both have been reported and ruled not actionable in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=558360

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:51 pm

Can I report the OP for trolling? They're clearly someone's sock puppet spewing nonsense in the Ukraine thread to rile people up.
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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:52 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Can I report the OP for trolling? They're clearly someone's sock puppet spewing nonsense in the Ukraine thread to rile people up.

I am not trolling I feel like a troll for putting up with ukro fairy tale stories for so long.

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Postby Urine Town » Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:13 pm

This very much looks to be the pot calling the kettle black. Baiting Ukrainians by calling them Russian and comparing “westernism” to a disease does not sound kosher

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See, this is one area you would genuinely be able to hit western liberals, but it falls flat because the Russian government is also exceedingly ultra and ethnonationalist. There's a fucking load of Nazis on both sides of this war.

Shit, Putin started off the entire war by talking about how Ukrainians aren't even real and were actually just invented by Lenin to destroy Russia, lol.

well ukrainians are russians efectively but infected by nazism and westernism. and again - why ukraien is not condemning azov and bandera instead of embraceing them?
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Postby Fahran » Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:25 pm

Urine Town wrote:This very much looks to be the pot calling the kettle black. Baiting Ukrainians by calling them Russian and comparing “westernism” to a disease does not sound kosher

Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:well ukrainians are russians efectively but infected by nazism and westernism. and again - why ukraien is not condemning azov and bandera instead of embraceing them?

Addressed. It reads a lot like "All X Are Y" style trolling.

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Postby Fahran » Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:28 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Can I report the OP for trolling? They're clearly someone's sock puppet spewing nonsense in the Ukraine thread to rile people up.

At present, I've seen no indication that the nation is someone's sock puppet. If you would like to report individual posts as trolling or would like to request a trawl, you may do so, but, at the moment, my inclination is to interpret the majority of the posts I've seen as legal - with the exception of the post I just smacked for trolling.
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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:28 am

Luminesa wrote:
Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:I hope Russia finishes the joke that is Ukraine

Bot doesn’t have a sense of humor.


I got called a bot. users here keep insulting and attacking me.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:27 am

If you're going to complain about other people insulting you, then you should probably refrain from insulting other people...

Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Ukraine is a joke, and the joke is the Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks.

thank god that this forum has some common sense people. why ukraine has even a bit of support is so confusing to me.
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:23 pm

Using moderation to argue about why you don’t like Ukraine is not what this thread is for, dude.
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Postby Fahran » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:09 am

Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:I got called a bot. users here keep insulting and attacking me.

Not actionable, though repeatedly calling someone a bot could potentially fall into the same category as troll-naming. Depending on the context, it could constitute spamming or even flame-baiting if the content of a post solely consists of calling someone else a bot.

This is something of a grey area simply because the proliferation of AI and bot farms has made it difficult to determine which accounts are and are not bots, and we have almost certainly had bots on site before.

Luminesa wrote:Using moderation to argue about why you don’t like Ukraine is not what this thread is for, dude.

Indeed. All arguments unrelated to reported posts ought to occur in the Russo-Ukrainian War thread.

Posting in the correct thread is very demure and very mindful.
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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:54 pm

Rudeness and toxic language in thread about russia-ukr conflict.

Tarsonis wrote:
Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:the only real history is that taught in russia and friendly nations. rest of the world is fed lies, especially westerners.


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Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:the only real history is that taught in russia and friendly nations. rest of the world is fed lies, especially westerners.


See, now you are just willingly spouting bullshit for the luls.

Clearly, you are not here in good faith.

Fucking lol.


Also vile genocide denial where user implies genocide of russians in ukr is fault of russia, or that it is not happening.

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Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:you claim I spout bullshit when you laugh and dismiss murder of thousands of fucking russian civilians in donbass??!! The aggregsion towards russia from west for decades, totally unprovoked!! Absolute lunacy pretending to be logic. Not to mention continuing escalation by the west. need not say more.


Russia has killed more Russian speakers in the Donbas since 2022 than Ukraine has since 2014.


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Hutsuls wrote:I hope you are right. Logic and human nature tells me that Ukraine, current regime, rather than surrender and face justice for Donbass genocide , will attempt nuclear escalation by building a dirty bomb and detonating it on an NPP and try to make it as false flag. They are already flagged for that and they are certainly capable. Human desperation can make people do unthinkable things.

Putin needs to cut your access to Internet and reeducate you on more effective propaganda. Making outlandish and delusional claims like these will only get you laughed out of the room.
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:55 pm

Not actionable.

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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:57 pm

United Calanworie wrote:Not actionable.

I have made edit of post right after you commented this. posted links of genocide denial.

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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:58 pm

Still not actionable.

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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:59 pm

United Calanworie wrote:Still not actionable.

Apologies if commenting here not allowed, but how is not actionable? Am under impression that genocide denial much like holocaust would be banned here.

Thank you

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:02 pm

Can OP please get dinged for flamebaiting already? They're clearly just posting Russian propaganda and running to the mods whenever somebody calls them out on it.
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:03 pm

Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Still not actionable.

Apologies if commenting here not allowed, but how is not actionable? Am under impression that genocide denial much like holocaust would be banned here.

Thank you

From the OSRS:
We also specifically ban Holocaust Denial, which includes posts that explicitly deny the Holocaust ever took place, or clearly imply it might not have, or was fundamentally different to what it actually was. This is because the topic comes up somewhat frequently and derails threads while almost never producing any insight or meaningful discussion.


We do not ban genocide denialism, especially when the "genocide denial" being posted is not even denial of a genocide that may or may not be happening.

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Postby Polygonal cuboid sheep » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:04 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Polygonal cuboid sheep wrote:Apologies if commenting here not allowed, but how is not actionable? Am under impression that genocide denial much like holocaust would be banned here.

Thank you

From the OSRS:
We also specifically ban Holocaust Denial, which includes posts that explicitly deny the Holocaust ever took place, or clearly imply it might not have, or was fundamentally different to what it actually was. This is because the topic comes up somewhat frequently and derails threads while almost never producing any insight or meaningful discussion.


We do not ban genocide denialism, especially when the "genocide denial" being posted is not even denial of a genocide that may or may not be happening.

very well thank you for asisstance

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:19 pm

Going to second the request put forth by The Two Jerseys here in that the above user seems to be frivolously reporting people left and right for merely disagreeing with their thinly put together 'arguments'. Pretty sure by now that's gotta be crossing the line of 'mods as weapons' at the very least.
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