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Postby Alvosa » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:51 am

Today marks the anniversary of World War One, one of the deadliest wars in history killing around 20 million million people.
It will go down in the history books for the death and destruction, aswell as essentially leaving Europe a clean slate for new nations to rise. Setting up the later World war 2 and Cold War.

This would all begin when one man was shot in Sarajevo. The Germans nearly won but ultimately failed to capture Paris and ultimately surrendered 106 years ago.

In WW2 It is clear that the Axis were the bad guys, in this war it’s not as sure. The Austrians wanted revenge for their dead archduke, and everyone else was defending allies. But the central powers ultimately started the war, commuted horrors in Belgium and Armenia and sunk innocent ships.

Were the Central powers just retaliating to Serbian aggression. Or is history written by the victors and they were misunderstood?

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:54 am

Recently, I learned about Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Absolute lion.
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Postby Russian Collation » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:54 am

Fun fact!
My great great grandpa was a Russian solider in Battle of Osowiec Fortres or more commonly know as the Attack of the dead men. He sadly died at 40 years old a long time ago.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:56 am

Russian Collation wrote:Fun fact!
My great great grandpa was a Russian solider in Battle of Osowiec Fortres or more commonly know as the Attack of the dead men. He sadly died at 40 years old a long time ago.

I had an ancestor who was in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, as part of the U.S Army's 82nd Division (today the 82nd Airborne Division).
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Postby 704 Interamnia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:01 pm

I'd like to take a step back and imagine how crazy it is that one man's death altered the entire course of history post-20th century. Not much things you see on the geopolitical scale would be the same if Archduke Ferdinand wasn't in Sarajevo that day.
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Postby Federation of Great Lake States » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:08 pm

Can you imagine the reaction of the driver? Not to make light of a tragedy but his face must've been soooo funny.
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:11 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:Recently, I learned about Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Absolute lion.


Impeccable style to boot.
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Postby Alvosa » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:18 pm

704 Interamnia wrote:I'd like to take a step back and imagine how crazy it is that one man's death altered the entire course of history post-20th century. Not much things you see on the geopolitical scale would be the same if Archduke Ferdinand wasn't in Sarajevo that day.


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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:32 pm

Southglory wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Recently, I learned about Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Absolute lion.


Impeccable style to boot.

Love his hat.
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Postby Russian Collation » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:33 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Russian Collation wrote:Fun fact!
My great great grandpa was a Russian solider in Battle of Osowiec Fortres or more commonly know as the Attack of the dead men. He sadly died at 40 years old a long time ago.

I had an ancestor who was in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, as part of the U.S Army's 82nd Division (today the 82nd Airborne Division).

Its amazing how much history your family can have if you look back
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:37 pm

Russian Collation wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I had an ancestor who was in the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, as part of the U.S Army's 82nd Division (today the 82nd Airborne Division).

Its amazing how much history your family can have if you look back

Indeed, it's amazing how many details you can find.
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:42 pm

Bring back the territory to Austria-Hungary, and give back all of Prussia to Germany, Bulgaria can have the rest of the Balkans with the sole exception of Greece... let the Turks have it.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:51 pm

Southglory wrote:Bring back the territory to Austria-Hungary, and give back all of Prussia to Germany, Bulgaria can have the rest of the Balkans with the sole exception of Greece... let the Turks have it.

T*rks don't deserve Greece. Megali Idea!
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Postby Deraililand » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:52 pm

704 Interamnia wrote:I'd like to take a step back and imagine how crazy it is that one man's death altered the entire course of history post-20th century. Not much things you see on the geopolitical scale would be the same if Archduke Ferdinand wasn't in Sarajevo that day.

Yes but actually no
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:52 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Southglory wrote:Bring back the territory to Austria-Hungary, and give back all of Prussia to Germany, Bulgaria can have the rest of the Balkans with the sole exception of Greece... let the Turks have it.

T*rks don't deserve Greece. Megali Idea!


Well we can't give it to the It*lians!
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:53 pm

Southglory wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:T*rks don't deserve Greece. Megali Idea!


Well we can't give it to the It*lians!

Of course not. Create the Anatolian Republic.
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:55 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Southglory wrote:
Well we can't give it to the It*lians!

Of course not. Create the Anatolian Republic.


I take it the capital being Constantinople?
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Postby Raiding puPpeT » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:55 pm

the causes of WW1 vs WW2 always makes me laugh.
ww1 was the result of a bunch of gunpowder being lit (double entendre because ferdinand was shot and europe at that point wasnt very stable)
ww2 was because a racist got power and did terrible things.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:55 pm

Southglory wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Of course not. Create the Anatolian Republic.


I take it the capital being Constantinople?

No lol Constantinople will be rightful Greek clay.
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:57 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Southglory wrote:
I take it the capital being Constantinople?

No lol Constantinople will be rightful Greek clay.


Enough Greeks have not perished for Istanbul, another war is required, if they succeed that trial by fire they shall have their clay.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:59 pm

Southglory wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:No lol Constantinople will be rightful Greek clay.


Enough Greeks have not perished for Istanbul, another war is required, if they succeed that trial by fire they shall have their clay.

Byzantium would like to have a word. By the fall of the Empire, the Eastern Romans were legally Greek.
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Postby Southglory » Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:01 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Southglory wrote:
Enough Greeks have not perished for Istanbul, another war is required, if they succeed that trial by fire they shall have their clay.

Byzantium would like to have a word. By the fall of the Empire, the Eastern Romans were legally Greek.


Byzantium was crushed by the Great Sultan! Sadly in spite of the legality they couldn't militarlily hold on to Constantinople.
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Postby Kreigsreich of Iron » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:18 pm

The Treaty of Versailles was entirely too clement.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:27 pm

Alvosa wrote:Today marks the anniversary of World War One,

Er, no? It started 110 years ago in late July.
the central powers ultimately started the war,

Uhm NO. There were many acts that led to war, including AH's ultimatum to Serbia and Germany's carte blanche, but the act that made war inevitable was the mobilisation of the Russian armed forces on July 24.

sunk innocent ships.

What, RMS Lusitania?
the wikiez wrote:At time of her sinking the primarily passenger-carrying vessel had in her hold around 173 tons of war supplies, comprising 4.2 million rounds of rifle ammunition, almost 5,000 shrapnel-filled artillery shell casings and 3,240 brass percussion fuses.

The legitimacy of its sinking is still debated.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:31 pm

Southglory wrote:Bring back the territory to Austria-Hungary

Austria and their 16k soldiers are pretty much welcome to attack their NATO neighbours.
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