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[R] Trolling in American Politics Thread

Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:53 pm

Lumiere Du Premier wrote:Thank goodness Trump won, now those annoying liberals will be too busy trying to reclaim abortion rights and they'll hopefully leave Japan and Anime alone. Those liberals are the reason I support trump, because he'll distract them with his policies. Also I hate woke culture so hopefully that will get reigned in, I've had enough of my entertainment ruined by these rainbow freaks.


Clearly calling LGBTQ+ people "rainbow freaks." Trolling.
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Postby Lumiere du Premier » Sun Nov 10, 2024 6:55 pm

No, I was clearly referring to the woke and liberal establishment, because they support the LGBTQ+, I was never referring to the LGBTQ+ community itself, if you were paying attention.
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Postby Fahran » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:01 pm

Addressed.

viewtopic.php?p=42128633#p42128633

Thank you for the report.

Lumiere Du Premier wrote:No, I was clearly referring to the woke and liberal establishment, because they support the LGBTQ+, I was never referring to the LGBTQ+ community itself, if you were paying attention.

I do not believe this was readily apparent to a casual reader. The reference to "rainbow freaks" looked targeted towards LGBT+ folks. A sage bit of advice is that how we phrase our arguments and statements often impacts whether they will constitute trolling. I would work to be more mindful going forward. If you had complained about "the woke and liberal establishment promoting LGBT+ themes" instead of "rainbow freaks", you likely would not have received an official warning.
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Postby Lumiere du Premier » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:02 pm

Fahran wrote:Addressed.

viewtopic.php?p=42128633#p42128633

Thank you for the report.

Lumiere Du Premier wrote:No, I was clearly referring to the woke and liberal establishment, because they support the LGBTQ+, I was never referring to the LGBTQ+ community itself, if you were paying attention.

I do not believe this was readily apparent to a casual reader. The reference to "rainbow freaks" looked targeted towards LGBT+ folks. A sage bit of advice is that how we phrase our arguments and statements often impacts whether they will constitute trolling. I would work to be more mindful going forward. If you had complained about "the woke and liberal establishment promoting LGBT+ themes" instead of "rainbow freaks", you likely would not have received an official warning.


Alright so from my understanding the issue here is it wasn't readily apparent or clear that it was the establishment I was referring to, so I'll phrase my statements better in the future. Got it, thanks. I thought I was clear enough by mentioning the liberal establishment earlier in my statement.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:05 pm

Fahran wrote:Addressed.

viewtopic.php?p=42128633#p42128633

Thank you for the report.

Thank you for taking care of it.
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Postby Fahran » Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:08 pm

Lumiere Du Premier wrote:Alright so from my understanding the issue here is it wasn't readily apparent or clear that it was the establishment I was referring to, so I'll phrase my statements better in the future. Got it, thanks. I thought I was clear enough by mentioning the liberal establishment earlier in my statement.

Thank you. It would be much appreciated. Honestly, avoiding insults altogether is often the best way to avoid winding up on the less fun side of Moderation. Like I said, it's not really necessary in conversations about media - even if you dislike queer themes or queer characters.

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Thank you for taking care of it.

No problem! I'm glad to be of assistance!
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Postby Untecna » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:44 pm

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This reply might have been doubling down.
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Postby Lumiere du Premier » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:45 pm

Untecna wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=42128640#p42128640

This reply might have been doubling down.

No I was just asking for clarification obviously.
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Postby Fahran » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:29 pm

Untecna wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=42128640#p42128640

This reply might have been doubling down.

Not actionable. I read it as a legitimate request for clarification. That said, I do appreciate the report. Thank you very much for following up.

Lumiere Du Premier wrote:No I was just asking for clarification obviously.

To answer your question, a good rule of thumb is "If you have to ask whether or not something is against the rules, it's prudent not to post it."

Our volunteer moderators rule on a case-by-case basis and do not generally offer hypotheticals. That said, calling institutions or actions not directly related to site users annoying generally won't violate the rules. So you're probably fine to call the media annoying or certain political figures annoying. But, again, I would be mindful that this isn't blanket approval to use insults with the intention of getting a rise out of people.

You're always welcome to glance at and review the OSRS if you're uncertain about something.
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