[R]Flaming

[Hutsuls]

What exactly is “5% autarky”? It doesn’t exist.

Autarky is all or nothing.

Anyway you don’t tariff your way to autarky without ending up living a third world standard of living. Brazil has like 70% tariffs on all imported goods, look how they’re doing. North Korea is an extremely resource rich nation and is totally autarkic, look how they’re doing.

Prices are going to rise when trump passes those tariffs. That’s how tariffs work. There’s not enough American manufacturing to replace imports and what there is won’t be cheaper than them, let alone “affordable”. You when to build up the industry before hand, it doesn’t just come out of the ground.

He’s even fucking taxing improved raw materials, which means all American made goods to own extent or other will become more expensive as every industry in the US relies on importing raw materials.

Also I hope you’re not a gamer because electronics are going to become a lot more expensive.

You want us to live like it’s the 1940’s. Our doc boy got so large because we traded with literally everyone one dude. That was the single fencing feature of American diplomacy for centuries, was that we rejected European mercantilism and instead supported free trade.

Jesus Christ the Republicans have lost their own fucking script. You guys are going to make Americans even poorer!

This is genuinely the fucking most uneducated comment I have ever read in my entire fucking life.

let me make this simple enough for you to understand; AMERICA DECOUPLING FROM THE WORLD ECONOMY WOULD COLLAPSE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND AMERICAN STANDARD OF LIVING. IT WOUDL GENUINELY TIRN AMERICA INTO A THRID WORLD COUNTRY.

AT LITERALLY NO POINT IN AMERICAN HISTORY HAS THE UNITED ATATES ECONOMY EVER BEEN “DECOUPLED” FROM THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. AMERICA HAS ALWAYS DEPENDS HEAVILY ON FREE TRADE FOR ITS WEALTH.

WHAT YOU WANT WOULD LITERALLY DESTROY AMERICA.

Also trump so a fucking oligarch ruining in the interests of lobbies dude. Like genuinely you have posted some of the worst, most uneducated comments I have ever read on here. Your lack of know lol he on these subjects, and people like you are destroying this country.

Tariffs have never worked in American history, especially when we were the dominant industrial nation in the world. We are not that anymore. American industry has never been enough to replace the entire world economy.

If you truly who’ve the bullshit you spread you’d get rid of every single imported product you won, or made from into red materials, starting with all of your comprehend and smart devices.

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I have been talking to him respectfully and I might be wrong on something which I could correct but the language he is using seems to be abusive and should be violating rules of flaming / trolling.

[Adamede]

Nowhere here am I attacking the poster. Rather I am attacking how unthought out and illogical their arguments are, because they are. I’ve had people use similar language with me and had it rule non-actionable.

[Bavarian Soviet Repulic]

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I have been talking to him respectfully and I might be wrong on something which I could correct but the language he is using seems to be abusive and should be violating rules of flaming / trolling.

im pretty sure one of the mods said that you can say swear words on the forums or smt I think

[Fahran]

It looks as though Adamede is attacking the argument here. Keeping that in mind, my decision is that the reported posts aren't currently actionable as flaming. That said, I would recommend taking it down a notch when it comes to all caps and cursing. These could potentially become problematic and make posts actionable due to their garishness or overall tone.

[Adamede]

It looks as though Adamede is attacking the argument here. Keeping that in mind, my decision is that the reported posts aren't currently actionable as flaming. That said, I would recommend taking it down a notch when it comes to all caps and cursing. These could potentially become problematic and make posts actionable due to their garishness or overall tone.

Fair enough, I got a bit heated. Thank you.

[Hutsuls]

I would like a second opinion on this based on his following comment which seemed abusive towards me and was provoking a harsh response:

You guys are going to make Americans even poorer!

This is genuinely the fucking most uneducated comment I have ever read in my entire fucking life.

let me make this simple enough for you to understand;

Like genuinely you have posted some of the worst, most uneducated comments I have ever read on here. Your lack of know lol he on these subjects, and people like you are destroying this country.

If you truly who’ve the bullshit you spread you’d get rid of every single imported product you won, or made from into red materials, starting with all of your comprehend and smart devices.

The tone and language of these were clearly personal and directed at me. I found it to be very insulting and whence I don’t mind my arguments getting crushed if I am wrong, but here the bold lines are clearly personally targeting me.

[Farnhamia]

"Not actionable" ruling upheld. The issue was the tone and the format, which has been addressed.

[Hutsuls]

I was surfing the forum and came across final appeal. Is it applicable in this? Or can I raise third appeal? Or is 3rd appeal final appeal? Can I do that here?

Because I strongly feel the bolder post is a personal attack on me not my response/ argument. Please guide if I have any recourse.

[Sedgistan]

The Appeals Process is clearly documented in the One Stop Rules Shop. Your question is answered right near the start of it:

Who Can Appeal

You can only appeal a mod decision about your own content: You cannot lodge a "third-party appeal" on behalf of somebody else. This applies even if you are the original reporting party. For example, if you reported another player's post for flaming, and the moderator decided it didn't constitute a rule violation, you may not appeal. Moderators may choose provide a second opinion on request in such cases at their discretion, but are under no obligation to do so, and will not entertain Final Appeals in third party cases.

[Hutsuls]

The Appeals Process is clearly documented in the One Stop Rules Shop. Your question is answered right near the start of it:

Who Can Appeal

You can only appeal a mod decision about your own content: You cannot lodge a "third-party appeal" on behalf of somebody else. This applies even if you are the original reporting party. For example, if you reported another player's post for flaming, and the moderator decided it didn't constitute a rule violation, you may not appeal. Moderators may choose provide a second opinion on request in such cases at their discretion, but are under no obligation to do so, and will not entertain Final Appeals in third party cases.

Thank you so much Sir/Ma’am, I got more clarity on appeals process and final appeal. I will post my final appeal in the next post.

Thank you once again.

[Hutsuls]

I would like to Final Appeal the following post as I found it as personal attack on me, my integrity, and usage of abusive words towards me. I am personally not sure that whether this comes under just flaming or even trolling/ baiting, but the type of language used is very abusive and accusing me and others who might think like me of actually destroying a country. Posts are below:

What exactly is “5% autarky”? It doesn’t exist.

Autarky is all or nothing.

Anyway you don’t tariff your way to autarky without ending up living a third world standard of living. Brazil has like 70% tariffs on all imported goods, look how they’re doing. North Korea is an extremely resource rich nation and is totally autarkic, look how they’re doing.

Prices are going to rise when trump passes those tariffs. That’s how tariffs work. There’s not enough American manufacturing to replace imports and what there is won’t be cheaper than them, let alone “affordable”. You when to build up the industry before hand, it doesn’t just come out of the ground.

He’s even fucking taxing improved raw materials, which means all American made goods to own extent or other will become more expensive as every industry in the US relies on importing raw materials.

Also I hope you’re not a gamer because electronics are going to become a lot more expensive.

You want us to live like it’s the 1940’s. Our doc boy got so large because we traded with literally everyone one dude. That was the single fencing feature of American diplomacy for centuries, was that we rejected European mercantilism and instead supported free trade.

Jesus Christ the Republicans have lost their own fucking script. You guys are going to make Americans even poorer!

This is genuinely the fucking most uneducated comment I have ever read in my entire fucking life.

let me make this simple enough for you to understand; AMERICA DECOUPLING FROM THE WORLD ECONOMY WOULD COLLAPSE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND AMERICAN STANDARD OF LIVING. IT WOUDL GENUINELY TIRN AMERICA INTO A THRID WORLD COUNTRY.

AT LITERALLY NO POINT IN AMERICAN HISTORY HAS THE UNITED ATATES ECONOMY EVER BEEN “DECOUPLED” FROM THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. AMERICA HAS ALWAYS DEPENDS HEAVILY ON FREE TRADE FOR ITS WEALTH.

WHAT YOU WANT WOULD LITERALLY DESTROY AMERICA.

Also trump so a fucking oligarch ruining in the interests of lobbies dude. Like genuinely you have posted some of the worst, most uneducated comments I have ever read on here. Your lack of know lol he on these subjects, and people like you are destroying this country.

Tariffs have never worked in American history, especially when we were the dominant industrial nation in the world. We are not that anymore. American industry has never been enough to replace the entire world economy.

If you truly who’ve the bullshit you spread you’d get rid of every single imported product you won, or made from into red materials, starting with all of your comprehend and smart devices.

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I have been talking to him respectfully and I might be wrong on something which I could correct but the language he is using seems to be abusive and should be violating rules of flaming / trolling/ baiting I hope? And not just usage of abusive words, calling me uneducated or spreader of bullshit, rather than respectfully correct me if I am wrong. And then accusing someone of destroying a country, all the while using abusive words, I feel that should be actioned because it is a personal attack on me, and not what I wrote. Within these posts, I have problems with the bold part:

You guys are going to make Americans even poorer!

This is genuinely the fucking most uneducated comment I have ever read in my entire fucking life.

let me make this simple enough for you to understand;

Like genuinely you have posted some of the worst, most uneducated comments I have ever read on here. Your lack of know lol he on these subjects, and people like you are destroying this country.

If you truly who’ve the bullshit you spread you’d get rid of every single imported product you won, or made from into red materials, starting with all of your comprehend and smart devices.

The tone and language of these were clearly personal, condescending, while using abusive words and directed at me. I found it to be very insulting and whence I don’t mind my arguments getting crushed if I am wrong, usage of abuses, condescending approach, and you can just look at the way he wrote it, I feel it is clearly directed at me. You can view my posts too on the thread, I have always been respectful towards him and his beliefs, and the worst part is, him using “you guys” which clearly makes it personal.

Within these posts forum, I have faced many insults like “Russian shill”, Russian Propagandist and you have the means to find out who says this. But I found this post to be worst of all and personally directed at me.

I hope you understood my points and see that this is indeed extremely bad personal attack by using abuses on me and that necessary action can be taken.

[Crazy girl]

Reread the appeals process, you do not get a final appeal unless you're the subject of a ruling. We're done here.

[Hutsuls]

Reread the appeals process, you do not get a final appeal unless you're the subject of a ruling. We're done here.

Unfortunate, but the system compels me to accept even though I am not happy about it since system gives me no more options. :sad:

So I guess I have to move on and ignore the person from now onwards.