German coalition issues

[The BlAAtschApen]

So, today Olaf Scholz, the social democratic Bundeskanzler (prime minister) fired Christian Lindner , the right wing liberal from his position of finance minister.

What happens next? Well, this will likely break up the coalition of social democrats, greens and the right wing liberals. If that happens, then new elections, probably around spring somewhere. If they manage to repair this rift, it will continue and new elections take place on their more planned date in autumn 2025.

So close to the finish line. I was actually positively surprised that the coalition stayed together that long.

My opinion: Interesting timing, I guess the German government wanted their chance in the spotlight now that the US election is over. For the rest, a new election, well, it remains to be seen how that will end up. The AfD is on the rise, and the CDU wants to get back in power. I hope it won't be the case that the CDU has to come to an agreement with the AfD. As a non-christian immigrant that would be quite scary for me.

So, what is your take, NSG? Is anyone here directly affected (ie. not armchair politics)?

source: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/06/euro ... index.html

[Mettaton-EX]

since a vote of no confidence is already scheduled for january, i think he should just fire wissing, stark-watzinger, and the other worse-than-useless fdp goons as well. their replacements wouldn't get much done, but it'd be better than this by default

[The BlAAtschApen]

since a vote of no confidence is already scheduled for january, i think he should just fire wissing, stark-watzinger, and the other worse-than-useless fdp goons as well. their replacements wouldn't get much done, but it'd be better than this by default

The other FDP ministers have left as well in response. Not sure if they were fired or if they themselves concluded that their time was up.

[Mettaton-EX]

since a vote of no confidence is already scheduled for january, i think he should just fire wissing, stark-watzinger, and the other worse-than-useless fdp goons as well. their replacements wouldn't get much done, but it'd be better than this by default

The other FDP ministers have left as well in response. Not sure if they were fired or if they themselves concluded that their time was up.

finally some good fucking news

[Arcturus Novus]

RIP Stoplight Coalition, I guess Germany should prep for another AfD uptick, or...?

[Futurist State of Flassau]

Yeah Germany is absolutely going either National Populist or full on Fascist (they won't call themself that) if the AfD won.

[HISPIDA]

AfD definitely isn't winning anything national, but a CDU/CSU-AfD coalition is not outside of the realms of possibility.

...at least, i don't think it is. i haven't kept up with german politics since 2021.

[Rusozak]

Yeah Germany is absolutely going either National Populist or full on Fascist (they won't call themself that) if the AfD won.

Again? Where's the Red Army when you need it?

[Durius]

AfD are complete buffons. If CDU is even contemplating a deal with them, that's an admission that they are fine with the whole package, from climate change denial to nazism and attempted subservion of the state. I would be very surprised, though not shocked unfortunately, if such a deal was made.

That being said, I feel like we are not talking enough about the rise of BSW on the populist far left. They might not be full neonazis like AfD, but they are still dangerous enough. It's really sad to me that the motor of Europe is now going full nationalistic.

[Hutsuls]

German government collapsed isn’t it?

[Futurist State of Flassau]

German government collapsed isn’t it?

No. If you commit a crime there you will absolutely still get charged. You'll still pay taxes. Services will still function.

[Mettaton-EX]

AfD definitely isn't winning anything national, but a CDU/CSU-AfD coalition is not outside of the realms of possibility.

...at least, i don't think it is. i haven't kept up with german politics since 2021.

in theory all the main parties including the cdu/csu have ruled out ever forming coalitions with the afd. but i think it's pretty obvious they're lying

[Tillania]

German government collapsed isn’t it?

Nope, the executive lost legislative support which makes governing harder but day-to-day operations continue.
At the risk of sounding extremely German: it is illegal for German governments to collapse, so they don't.
(There is no constitutional mechanism for doing so,)

[Camtropia]

Yeah Germany is absolutely going either National Populist or full on Fascist (they won't call themself that) if the AfD won.

Again? Where's the Red Army when you need it?

The entirety of Europe if the AfD wins:

AfD definitely isn't winning anything national, but a CDU/CSU-AfD coalition is not outside of the realms of possibility.

...at least, i don't think it is. i haven't kept up with german politics since 2021.

in theory all the main parties including the cdu/csu have ruled out ever forming coalitions with the afd. but i think it's pretty obvious they're lying

Most politicians would sell their own granny to get even a sniff of power. We'll see just how long these "cordon sanitaires" across Europe around parties like the AfD and France's National Rally last... I hope I am proved wrong.

[Ifreann]

Yeah Germany is absolutely going either National Populist or full on Fascist (they won't call themself that) if the AfD won.

Again? Where's the Red Army when you need it?

Invading Ukraine, unfortunately.

[Rusozak]

Again? Where's the Red Army when you need it?

Invading Ukraine, unfortunately.

Nah, that's just Putin's horde of press-ganged thugs.

[Rio Negro e Para]

In fact, it's more problable to have a coalization CDU/CSU with FDP.

AfD is a populist party, but I don't think that is proper call they facists ( there a law in the german constitution that proibitates Nac-soc parties).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYog5U4ZZU (reference)

[Skorpiie]

In fact, it's more problable to have a coalization CDU/CSU with FDP.

AfD is a populist party, but I don't think that is proper call then facists ( there a law in the german constitution that proibitates Nac-soc parties).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYog5U4ZZU (reference)

This doesnt explain the existence of the NPD

[Rio Negro e Para]

In fact, it's more problable to have a coalization CDU/CSU with FDP.

AfD is a populist party, but I don't think that is proper call then facists ( there a law in the german constitution that proibitates Nac-soc parties).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUYog5U4ZZU (reference)

This doesnt explain the existence of the NPD

Ok, you have a point.

[Mettaton-EX]

In fact, it's more problable to have a coalization CDU/CSU with FDP.

no it's not. the fdp won't be in the next bundestag

[Ifreann]

Invading Ukraine, unfortunately.

Nah, that's just Putin's horde of press-ganged thugs.

Ol' Red Army, ain't what she used to be.

[Rio Negro e Para]

Nah, that's just Putin's horde of press-ganged thugs.

Ol' Red Army, ain't what she used to be.

Bro, type on google Molotov-Ridenbropt.

[Ifreann]

Ol' Red Army, ain't what she used to be.

Bro, type on google Molotov-Ridenbropt.

Molotov-Ridenbropt, you say?

[Rio Negro e Para]

AfD definitely isn't winning anything national, but a CDU/CSU-AfD coalition is not outside of the realms of possibility.

...at least, i don't think it is. i haven't kept up with german politics since 2021.

I don't think that is possible due to the Brandmauer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUr2AA6ljeU 1:55 (reference)

[Skorpiie]

AfD definitely isn't winning anything national, but a CDU/CSU-AfD coalition is not outside of the realms of possibility.

...at least, i don't think it is. i haven't kept up with german politics since 2021.

I don't think that is possible due to the Brandmauer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUr2AA6ljeU 1:55 (reference)

Exactly, the CDU/CSU doesn’t want anything to do with a extremist right party